Farming Chit Chat III

J.O. Farmer · 23-01-2014 11:48PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

21st tomorrow night and I've about 4 or five cows on the point of calving. Typical.

Check them before heading out and when you're pissed coming home dealing with the problems they will inevitably have because you've been out won't seem so bad.
I spent Christmas eve looking at a cow and just about made late mass a half hour late otherwise it would have been no lie in Christmas Day.

J.O. Farmer · 23-01-2014 11:50PM

Panch18 wrote: »

Wear gloves, prevention is better than cure

Dettol or similar works as well

I misread first time. I read protection. Both good advice for life.

Base price · 24-01-2014 12:30AM

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

how do you get rid of the smell of silage off your hands? already use toothpaste but l notice after an hour the smell comes back

Make up a semi wet paste of bread soda and water and rub it into you hands. Try to leave it for a minute or two.
Remember as your mammy would say "Don't forget to do your wrists"

Base price · 24-01-2014 12:34AM

Reggie. wrote: »

engine wont last long

Not true - once a lubricant oil is added there is no problem.
Years ago TVO tractors were run on what is more or less simular to kerosene nowdays.
Also I believe that air planes and some military vehicles run on a kerosene/lubricant mix.

Suckler · 24-01-2014 05:54AM

Base price wrote: »

Not true - once a lubricant oil is added there is no problem.
Years ago TVO tractors were run on what is more or less simular to kerosene nowdays.
Also I believe that air planes and some military vehicles run on a kerosene/lubricant mix.

Military vehicles are built to be multi-fuel and will run on JP4 / JP8 / Kerosene / Diesel and I'd guess veg oil. Engines and the components used need to be built to use Kerosene it burns hotter than diesel so will wear gaskets and rings quicker. Fuel injection pump will seize without the proper lubrication. If the engine gets too hot you run the risk of irregular firing and you'll quickly hear a lovely knocking sound from the engine. That won't be a cheap repair bill.

The lubricating engine oil is not going to go places that the fuel is pumped through. The Fuel provides lubrication to these components as it flows through the system. Its a complete false economy to run anything but diesel through the engines.

You could add lubrication assisting fluid to the fuel to try to prevent or limit the damage to components but when you're never going to know if the mix is accurate so whats the point.

hugo29 · 24-01-2014 08:24AM

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

how do you get rid of the smell of silage off your hands? already use toothpaste but l notice after an hour the smell comes back

Feed hay

Gloves

Rovi · 24-01-2014 08:29AM

.Kovu. wrote: »

Know a fella who uses a mix of kerosene and diesel in his jeep too!
What are the legalities of that?:p

The good people in the Customs & Excise don't care if you have to fit a new engine every week or so because of using alternative fuels, but they DO care very much that you're paying the correct duties and taxes on fuel used as a propellant:
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/duties/excise-duty-rates.html

Creative mixtures of kerosene, cooking oil, whatever, are as much on their radar as washed diesel is.

Base price · 24-01-2014 09:56AM

Suckler wrote: »

Military vehicles are built to be multi-fuel and will run on JP4 / JP8 / Kerosene / Diesel and I'd guess veg oil. Engines and the components used need to be built to use Kerosene it burns hotter than diesel so will wear gaskets and rings quicker. Fuel injection pump will seize without the proper lubrication. If the engine gets too hot you run the risk of irregular firing and you'll quickly hear a lovely knocking sound from the engine. That won't be a cheap repair bill.

The lubricating engine oil is not going to go places that the fuel is pumped through. The Fuel provides lubrication to these components as it flows through the system. Its a complete false economy to run anything but diesel through the engines.

You could add lubrication assisting fluid to the fuel to try to prevent or limit the damage to components but when you're never going to know if the mix is accurate so whats the point.

My brother has a Ford Nan (tvo). We used to run it on paraffin but then they stopped producing it. We were told by a guy who keeps vintage tractors to add lubricant oil to kerosene and it would be fine. I don't know what the ratio is.

moy83 · 24-01-2014 10:28AM

Base price wrote: »

My brother has a Ford Nan (tvo). We used to run it on paraffin but then they stopped producing it. We were told by a guy who keeps vintage tractors to add lubricant oil to kerosene and it would be fine. I don't know what the ratio is.

We have a model m john deere here thats tvo aswell . I think it starts on petrol and switches over to tvo then when running . The grandfather used make the tvo out of petrol , parafin and oil mixed I think .

maxxuumman · 24-01-2014 10:40AM

Wouldn't this kind of messing sicken your sh1t
http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/tractor-jcb-car-and-van-and-machinery-da/6242413

Nekarsulm · 24-01-2014 11:12AM

Yeah, "discreet service" all right.

Kovu · 24-01-2014 11:17AM

Rovi wrote: »

The good people in the Customs & Excise don't care if you have to fit a new engine every week or so because of using alternative fuels, but they DO care very much that you're paying the correct duties and taxes on fuel used as a propellant:
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/duties/excise-duty-rates.html

Creative mixtures of kerosene, cooking oil, whatever, are as much on their radar as washed diesel is.

Thank you. Was just wondering how it worked for them.

So a generator could be ran on it? Once the mix was correct.

biddy2013 · 24-01-2014 11:18AM

when did the meat withdrawal for flukiver go up from 56 to 77days

biddy2013 · 24-01-2014 11:25AM

sad

http://www.fwi.co.uk/articles/23/01/2014/142936/farmer39s-wife-crushed-to-death-by-steel-bucket.htm?cmpid=SOC%7Ctwitter%7CEdwardMorgan%7C20140123120616280

Conmaicne Mara · 24-01-2014 11:27AM

biddy2013 wrote: »

sad http://www.fwi.co.uk/articles/23/01/2014/142936/farmer39s-wife-crushed-to-death-by-steel-bucket.htm?cmpid=SOC%7Ctwitter%7CEdwardMorgan%7C20140123120616280

Never agreed with using digger etc buckets to push in stakes, and that is precisely why.

Greengrass1 · 24-01-2014 11:32AM

I've never seen any one use a bucket like that. Around here the lads would use the headstock. I don't know if that's any less dangerous though

hugo29 · 24-01-2014 11:41AM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Never agreed with using digger etc buckets to push in stakes, and that is precisely why.

yea but how many times have we stood under one holding a stake:eek:

Conmaicne Mara · 24-01-2014 11:41AM

hugo29 wrote: »

yea but how many times have we stood under one holding a stake:eek:

Never.

hugo29 · 24-01-2014 11:44AM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Never.

and ur right, often thought if this post snaps im fcuked

Conmaicne Mara · 24-01-2014 11:47AM

hugo29 wrote: »

and ur right, often thought if this post snaps im fcuked

Or if the lad operating the machine makes a mistake. Too easy get hurt and when it's done you can't take it back. Not worth it for a fupping few stakes.

Nekarsulm · 24-01-2014 11:48AM

Even if you never had a quick release, I have seen perfect looking posts snap in the middle from an unseen fault. I drive posts with the front bucket all the time, but just make a small guide hole with the crowbar first, to keep it upright. Cannot imagine anyone agreeing to squat down and hold a post while the bucket thump down inches above their head. If thiscwas "after hours" forum, i could find an entirely different theory.

td5man · 24-01-2014 11:49AM

hugo29 wrote: »

yea but how many times have we stood under one holding a stake:eek:

I never push posts in with someone holding them.
It can be hard to get lads to understand what can happen if the post breaks or something else goes wrong.

hugo29 · 24-01-2014 11:51AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Even if you never had a quick release, I have seen perfect looking posts snap in the middle from an unseen fault. I drive posts with the front bucket all the time, but just make a small guide hole with the crowbar first, to keep it upright. Cannot imagine anyone agreeing to squat down and hold a post while the bucket thump down inches above their head. If thiscwas "after hours" forum, i could find an entirely different theory.

yep true but in the heat of the moment and it needs to get done "hold that strainer there for a second" does anyone stop and say hold on, unfortunately thats why they are called accidents,
i think as we get older we realise we aint that invincible

exercise is the antidote · 24-01-2014 11:54AM

hugo29 wrote: »

and ur right, often thought if this post snaps im fcuked

was holding a stake 1 day and the top of sledge flu off as he was pulling on it, it landed right behind me.

on a another note does anyone know where one could get a tape for measuring cattle weights?

Timmaay · 24-01-2014 01:57PM

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

was holding a stake 1 day and the top of sledge flu off as he was pulling on it, it landed right behind me.

on a another note does anyone know where one could get a tape for measuring cattle weights?

http://www.magentadirect.ie/proddetail.php?prod=MAE0128 for the tape.

But yeh I'll admit to using the bucket the odd time to drive a stake, never ever with anyone under it, I'd always use the crowbar to get it going. Being able to get confused about the quick release button seems like utter madness also, You would think there should be a latch over the switch, like this: http://www.apexjr.com/images/SwitchCover.JPG

biddy2013 · 24-01-2014 02:12PM

anyone go to the ahi calf health meeting in ballivor?

Conmaicne Mara · 24-01-2014 02:55PM

Does €265 sound like good value for an 8 cubic yard skip?

Kovu · 24-01-2014 03:04PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqkxziiMKOQ&feature=youtube_gdata

Anyone else got smart cows? One of ours used to open gate latches with her tongue.

biddy2013 · 24-01-2014 03:09PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Does €265 sound like good value for an 8 cubic yard skip?

i get the standard skip for 180, can have it for as long as i like

bob charles · 24-01-2014 03:16PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Does €265 sound like good value for an 8 cubic yard skip?

60c for a packet of matches is much better, especially with all the bonfire nights in Galway. Joking of course

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