Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours - 2013/14

29-07-2013 10:05AM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Getting red-carded is not the most noble thing in the world but circumstances differ. The two matches you gave an example of are very differnt imo. Evans was bad judgement and Vidics was frustration and sometimes fans applaud the player because he is part of the team and not the action. Its still showing support for the club.

Ole's red card was when the game was tied at 1-1 and is was very late in the match and in the season so a goal either way would decide it. We were losing the title race to Arsenal and it was a must win match. The draw was not enough and as much as I agree 99% of the time that you should win fair or not at all and deliberate fouls are bad sportsmanship but I also agree that desperate times call for desperate measures.

Some fans saw it as Ole putting team first and sacrafising himself and maybe even admiration for the way in which he managed to catch Rob Lee. Given what we know of the player he was not dirty so for me his red-card had more heart to it than those two examples and other dirty red-cards you see.

He knew he would walk and turned his back even before the card came out. Professionally he knew the consequences and committed a professional foul. He knew the cost another goal would have on our chances and the cost of the foul and did it anyway. I would not say its his worst moment in a UTD shirt and can understand the applause.

Love Ole!

Timmyctc · 29-07-2013 10:10AM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Getting red-carded is not the most noble thing in the world but circumstances differ. The two matches you gave an example of are very differnt imo. Evans was bad judgement and Vidics was frustration and sometimes fans applaud the player because he is part of the team and not the action. Its still showing support for the club.

Ole's red card was when the game was tied at 1-1 and is was very late in the match and in the season so a goal either way would decide it. We were losing the title race to Arsenal and it was a must win match. The draw was not enough and as much as I agree 99% of the time that you should win fair or not at all and deliberate fouls are bad sportsmanship but I also agree that desperate times call for desperate measures.

Some fans saw it as Ole putting team first and sacrafising himself and maybe even admiration for the way in which he managed to catch Rob Lee. Given what we know of the player he was not dirty so for me his red-card had more heart to it than those two examples and other dirty red-cards you see.

He knew he would walk and turned his back even before the card came out. Professionally he knew the consequences and committed a professional foul. He knew the cost another goal would have on our chances and the cost of the foul and did it anyway. I would not say its his worst moment in a UTD shirt and can understand the applause.

I love how when Becks comes over ye can see Ole saying "I had to"

homerjay2005 · 29-07-2013 10:14AM

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Thats what he gets for selling Eikrem.

since Eikrem left, their form is much better....

Cypher_sounds · 29-07-2013 10:18AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

since Eikrem left, their form is much better....

So Eikrem was a weak link in the side it seems? Got rid of him then they improve..

Pj! · 29-07-2013 10:19AM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Getting red-carded is not the most noble thing in the world but circumstances differ. The two matches you gave an example of are very differnt imo. Evans was bad judgement and Vidics was frustration and sometimes fans applaud the player because he is part of the team and not the action. Its still showing support for the club.

Ole's red card was when the game was tied at 1-1 and is was very late in the match and in the season so a goal either way would decide it. We were losing the title race to Arsenal and it was a must win match. The draw was not enough and as much as I agree 99% of the time that you should win fair or not at all and deliberate fouls are bad sportsmanship but I also agree that desperate times call for desperate measures.

Some fans saw it as Ole putting team first and sacrafising himself and maybe even admiration for the way in which he managed to catch Rob Lee. Given what we know of the player he was not dirty so for me his red-card had more heart to it than those two examples and other dirty red-cards you see.

He knew he would walk and turned his back even before the card came out. Professionally he knew the consequences and committed a professional foul. He knew the cost another goal would have on our chances and the cost of the foul and did it anyway. I would not say its his worst moment in a UTD shirt and can understand the applause.

Exactly. There was absolutely no shame in getting sent off there. The last thing Ole wanted to do was to ever get sent off but he made a professional decision there. Club first.

homerjay2005 · 29-07-2013 10:19AM

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

So Eikrem was a weak link in the side it seems? Got rid of him then they improve..

thats completely different to what you said earlier.

The_Kew_Tour · 29-07-2013 10:19AM

Ole>Shearer

Blatter · 29-07-2013 10:22AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ole>Shearer

What are you smoking? :pac:

GavRedKing · 29-07-2013 10:24AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ole>Shearer

Its very early to be on the high stool. :pac:

ericzeking · 29-07-2013 10:25AM

Was there a Boards.ie when we signed Ole?

Can you imagine the meltdown when we signed an unknown Norwegian striker instead of Batigol or Romario or whoever.....

The_Kew_Tour · 29-07-2013 10:26AM

ericzeking wrote: »

Was there a Boards.ie when we signed Ole?

Can you imagine the meltdown when we signed an unknown Norwegian striker instead of Batigol or Romario or whoever.....

Were we ever in for Romario?

I cant remember that.

Cypher_sounds · 29-07-2013 10:28AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

thats completely different to what you said earlier.

Both comments were a bit of a tongue in cheek presumption. I doubt too much that their form either way has a lot to do with him but i don't really know as i haven't been following them.

GavRedKing · 29-07-2013 10:30AM

ericzeking wrote: »

Was there a Boards.ie when we signed Ole?

Can you imagine the meltdown when we signed an unknown Norwegian striker instead of Batigol or Romario or whoever.....

Boards went live in '98 I think, dont know when the SF came about, think its '01.

ericzeking · 29-07-2013 10:31AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Were we ever in for Romario?

I cant remember that.

Have we been 'in for' half of the names touted on here?

v3ttel · 29-07-2013 10:32AM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Forget the goal at the Nou-camp, for me this is his finest moment in a UTD jersey.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

well considering that about 70,000 people clapped him off the pitch, i would think many people would agree with you.

The logic here is absolutely mind-boggling.

70,000 people clap and cheer when United score a goal. Is each one United's finest moment ever?

The_Kew_Tour · 29-07-2013 10:32AM

ericzeking wrote: »

Have we been 'in for' half of the names touted on here?

bit of difference though.

Never were we linked with Romerio, if we had I would have died slow death if it failed being young naïve lad I was

gracehopper · 29-07-2013 10:32AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ole>Shearer

"We could have bought shearer,he was ****in dearer......."

ericzeking · 29-07-2013 10:38AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

bit of difference though.

Never were we linked with Romerio, if we had I would have died slow death if it failed being young naïve lad I was

The specific names mentioned are an irrelevence to the point I am making, they were just 2 of the top strikers in the world at the time whos names popped into my head, even though we were indeed heavily linked with Batigol.

The_Kew_Tour · 29-07-2013 10:41AM

ericzeking wrote: »

The specific names mentioned are an irrelevence to the point I am making, they were just 2 of the top strikers in the world at the time whos names popped into my head, even though we were indeed heavily linked with Batigol.

Diferent times though.

United were just becoming a big club back then rather then being a big club now.

We had a history, but we had not won a league in 26 years only few years previous.

English football was still suffering the effect that Hysel disaster and following ban after also.

English football was barely in top 5 leagues in Europe back then

Adamcp898 · 29-07-2013 11:02AM

Monaco Director of football basically saying they were offered Nani but as of yet have not acted on it and don't plan to unless circumstances change.

skysports.com wrote:

Monaco sporting director Vadim Vasilyev claims the club have been offered the chance to sign Manchester United winger Nani.

The Portugal international's future at Old Trafford remains in doubt following the arrival of new manager David Moyes.

Nani has a year left to run on his current deal and the big-spending French outfit could offer him a lucrative move to the principality.

Claudio Ranieri has already splashed the cash by acquiring the likes of Radamel Falcao, James Rodriguez, Joao Moutinho, Eric Abidal and Jeremy Toulalan.

And Vasilyev has not ruled out a bid for the 26-year-old towards the end of the summer transfer window.

"He has been proposed to us," Vasilyev told French newspaper L'Equipe. "He is a very good player, but there have been no talks so far.

"We have already changed our group quite a bit and we also want to offer opportunities to our young players.

"We still have time to make a few alterations before the end of the transfer window, if needed."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8846216/transfer-news-monaco-will-not-rule-out-bid-for-manchester-united-winger-nani