Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

anyone know why the Dublin wouldn't be on the telly?
doesn't mention any stations on the gaa website, and can only find the kerry and kildare match on tg4

Br4tPr1nc3 wrote: »

anyone know why the Dublin wouldn't be on the telly?
doesn't mention any stations on the gaa website, and can only find the kerry and kildare match on tg4

Because there's only one game shown live in the league on a Sunday, all games are fixed for the same time and Kerry Tyrone is the most attractive of the games today.

Delighted with promotion in the hurling.

2 semi finals to look forward to. Both codes going superbly well.

Cracking day out in Ballybofey. It was fun to be in the stands as the match wound down, watching all the non Dubs scramble for their phones and headsets to figure out how the land lay. Probably the first time in a long time, that Donegal folk were rooting on a Tyrone team to win.

Paul Mannion is some find. Fair play to him for coming on as well as he has, especially as he missed several games after his noggin was unfortunate enough to come into contact with the hardest substance known to man (Paul Flynn's hip) in the opening game of the league.

Blackbelt, we have Kerry at home next year. (I know, I'll miss the trip to Kilarney too. ) Our road trips next year should be to Cork, Mayo, Tyrone and either Westmeath or Derry.

I was at the game this afternoon, and supporting Donegal. It did not work out for us in the second half, and honestly and truly the game should have been over after 25 minutes. We shot some of the worst wides I can remember this team ever shooting, and if u dont take the chances, then it is eventually going to haunt you. Thought the dublin mid field was most impressive in the second half. Thought that it was a fairly open match, and I wish the first ref a speedy recovery whatever happened him this afternoon.

As for the 2nd division,, it is not where u want to be at, but at the same time, it would have been a lot worse had this been the championship and we were out. I think that winning back to back all irelands is a bit of a myth, almost impossible in the modern game. I also think that Dublin could give it a serious rattle this year, if they stay on the right side of injury. Finally, I think that there is a lot of strange chat about mcguinness not taking his beating or looking for excuses, I dont think he let himself down, he didnt blame anyone else just said that things didnt go our way. Its hard to lose well it seems.

Stoner wrote: »

yes it was a good day, to be honest it was looking like i was not going to make it, but I'm very happy that we made the trip. I think cooper played very well again today, even on Murphy, I could not believe it when he hammered into him and stopped him in his tracks, I know it wont happen every day but it was good to see that side of his game, he has to start in the championship.

Donegal should have been about 8 points up at half time, I didn't understand the Dublin subs to be honest MDMC, Brennan, Connelly were playing reasonably well. I thought making those subs was an attempt to throw the game away. I thought Cullen coming on for Brady was an improvement but the others took from the team, but the remaining lads knuckled down and with little contribution from the subs got something from the game.

I dont buy Jim McGuinness dismissing the league, I know that he is always positive and wont have any negativity in the camp, but this will hurt Donegal next year IMHO.

What match were you watching? Both Brennan andMDMA had shocking games. Brennan turned over the ball continuously and was atcause for a few of their points. Mick couldn’t catch a ball all day. Infact westruggling at times to pass the ball.


Plus points from the game- Unbeaten again withoutthe Brogans and a few others starting. Cullen changed the game when he came on.Mannion is a super find.

Negatives Brennan had a shocker. Brady is notchampionship material. Connolly still a liability. My biggest worry was again we started the game very slowly. Like the Tyrone game if they had their shooting boots on it could have been quiet worrying if they had ticked over a few scores from play. Half back line was a worry.

Come championship i hope he drops brennan and plays Cian #6 with Nolan and Jack either side.

Another plus is we have plenty of choices there with that squad. Roll on the summer

Slattsy wrote: »

I wasnt at the game myself but my Father was. When speaking to him last night about the game, the first thing he said was 'that Brennan fella will cost us matches'.
Never rated him myself, i think he's a liability. Too much of a hot head.

A liability? He should have had an All Star in 2011.

He's an excellent defender who is without question one of the best distributors in the backs we have.

As regards discipline? He's had his problems and i'm sure the Mayo game is fresh in peoples minds with the criticism but overall he's largely curbed that side of his game.

He faces huge competition in the half backs and shouldn't be guaranteed of his place but its absolute nonsense to dismiss him on the basis of league one game.

Dubliner28 wrote: »

He was sent off in a Leinster final if i remember correctly,put his hands in an opponents face(when we had a free in the dying moments of the AI Final) nearly costing us the AI final.
Its just my personal opinion that i just don't rate him. Don't think he has the pace required for a half back. Looking at Cian/Jack/and now Kevin Nolan that would be my 3 starters in the championship.

First, Corny and I have had a few spats about Brennan and how I think he could cost us games, I think that he has improved areas of his game, I still question his pace, but he carries the ball into the tackle less than he did in the past, he does move the ball around well and there is plenty of pace elsewhere in the Dublin back line and his physicality is a plus sometimes. Not every forward Dublin will come against in the championship will be fast. I think that in many ways the argument about his ability to carry, move and distribute the ball around and the argument that he carries the ball into the tackle come from the same issue.

This Dublin back line seems to be quite smart, when someone fast needs to pick up a fast forward they do, note Cooper against Down and the interchanging yesterday, I think that they are better suited to compensate for a lack of pace form another defender if he in turn brings something to the game that they cant, and I do think that Brennan has tools that other players on the team don't. Overall though I still remain nervous that he will be sent off in a big game, and the more players that come into the panel the more likely the management team will try to mitigate that risk.

To answer your question, I was talking about the game yesterday between Dublin and Donegal:)
I still think that overall was Brennan doing well and MDMC was having a reasonable display, the general opinion at the game was that Dublin had the upper hand in midfield in the second half yesterday and as MDMC was playing there he contributed to that IMHO.
It seems that O'Sullivan is being seriously considered at midfield and not in the half backs, he did grow into the position as the game went on yesterday, but I'm unconvinced about him as a number 8 or 9 but he displays there are getting better not worse.
I second your opinion on Brady, but the management team must see something in him, he has certainly been given an opportunity in various positions in the league, maybe it will take time for him to adjust.

God no, don't rest Bernard. He hasn't played in over a month now. Give him some game time to make sure his shooting touch is still there come June. He is on record himself saying that the more game time he gets under his belt, the better he plays. Doubt if we will see CK again before the Champo. He tweeted a pic of himself climbing Howth Head over Easter, and he was still on crutches. Think the original prognosis was for him to be out at least 6 weeks.

I'd like to see him play too, would like to have the best team available playing now, even to get the extra competitive game in this year, this Dublin team is good to watch. They were competitive in 2010 in the league but that brand of football was at times hard to watch, there have been some good games this year, I'd like to see as much of it as possible, Sundays game had a bit of an edge to it after the ref change over, dismiss the league if you must but for most of the teams left in it there is something to win now, Kildare and Mayo could do with it too. Kildare need something for all their work, as do Mayo even if some of the lads over on that forum don't seem to rate it, it would be good for Dublin too. So three out of the four could do with it.

good point actually, what do you guys think has been the best midfield combination played so far by Galvin. What's peoples opinion on Craig Dunleavy? I'm not sure about O'Sullivan at midfield. I could see Bastick being on the bench in the championship, coming on, doing well and staying in the team, but I'm possibly just being optimistic. I thought that Declan O'Mahony had some good and bad moments when he played, overall its does not look promising and it appears to me from the managements perspective that a starting position at midfield is O'Sullivans to loose now, I do think he is growing into the position though, but I don't know how far that will go.

Stoner wrote: »

First, Corny and I have had a few spats about Brennan and how I think he could cost us games, I think that he has improved areas of his game, I still question his pace, but he carries the ball into the tackle less than he did in the past, he does move the ball around well and there is plenty of pace elsewhere in the Dublin back line and his physicality is a plus sometimes. Not every forward Dublin will come against in the championship will be fast. I think that in many ways the argument about his ability to carry, move and distribute the ball around and the argument that he carries the ball into the tackle come from the same issue.

This Dublin back line seems to be quite smart, when someone fast needs to pick up a fast forward they do, note Cooper against Down and the interchanging yesterday, I think that they are better suited to compensate for a lack of pace form another defender if he in turn brings something to the game that they cant, and I do think that Brennan has tools that other players on the team don't. Overall though I still remain nervous that he will be sent off in a big game, and the more players that come into the panel the more likely the management team will try to mitigate that risk.

Disagreements not spats;)

Can you mention a game where Brennan's supposed lack of pace was exposed by an attacker?

I think you're argument might make intuitive sense but it's a non issue because he doesn't get exposed by attackers. Take Cullen for example. Quicker and more athletic in the day but he was an average centre back. Historically Brennan stops runners through the middle, reads the game well and does an excellent job one on one. I also remember checking up (think it was 2011 season) and he touched the ball more often than any other player and had the highest pass success rate. Lots of this criticism is unfounded or overstated imo.

Having said all that i do agree he faces a tough task to nail a place. Gavin is a different man and seems to require more of his half backs moving up the field and others (Daly, Copper, Nolan, McCaffrey, McCarthy, O' Sullivan) might be better at that. Some are far better at that and Brennan has to prove he can adapt to Gavin's way.

I accept your point regarding his discipline too. Management can afford to be picky but i don't agree that makes him a 'liability' as some have said. Its like, player has an edge so ignore everything else and call him a liability. Its rubbish. Tomas O' Shea is not a liability for example.

On the midfield? Cian O' Sullivan has been excellent so far. Not flashy but brutally efficient in every aspect of play. Second name on the team sheet for me! MDM takes a lot of work to get fit and will come into his own later in the summer. Bastick cleaned Kildare out if memory serves. Only thing i don't want to see is MDM playing 11 again.

no idea, just read the claim there.