Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

2-1 COmmons

Finished 6-2 with goals from Ambrose, Ledley and 2 each for Commons and Stokes

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

It wasn't planned. They were greeted by an army of Strathclyde's finest outside the stadium, had a banner confiscated and everyone asked to provide details etc. A few got pulled at the turnstiles so the section decided they'd had enough of the harassment.

Be surprised if they're even around next season. Looks like the club (and some small sections of our support) are getting their wish. If we can't play in the EPL at least we can be as sterilised!

Kinda sad really! I know some supporters have no time for the GB and some who think they add a bit of colour and interest to CFC(I have an ozzy nephew who thinks they are super cool - he's 19 so they must me:)). Perhaps they nail their own coffin by being just too good at what they do and of course they won't be tamed, which in another way may lead to their downfall?

1st half highlights


2nd half highlights


The first Stokes goal was a peach and that penalty decision for DU was pathetic

Shocking what went on with the GB today. On a related note just noticed this earlier. Doesnt matter what club you support, this is outrageous by the police

http://the-thunder.com/airport-arrests-justice-for-zombies-by-boab-escobar/

This time last week I was stuck in Govan police station. My Monday had started so differently as I soaked up the last sun of a wee winter break in Spain. Little did I know when I was lying on the beach that afternoon that a four-strong party from Strathclyde Police was waiting at Glasgow Airport’s passport control to welcome me back home. Arrested in front of hundreds of tourists and my upset girlfriend I was cuffed and dragged out to waiting van and taken to Govan police station and charged by the Hate Crime Unit for offensive behaviour at football.

My supposed crime? Apparently my hands were seen on the zombie banner at the pre-season friendly with Norwich and my behaviour was so offensive that a reasonable person would think it could have caused serious public disorder. After the international fugitive treatment at the airport I was charged and released for a court date later on this season, where I’ll join another of the bhoys who has also been charged with the heinous crime of allegedly holding a banner having a laugh at our former rivals’ expense.

The truth is I doubt even the police believe the banner could or should be illegal, instead it’s the latest in a series of attacks on the Green Brigade and the Celtic support. Earlier today yet another young Tim was cleared by a court on a charge the judge found no evidence to prove and we’ve even heard of cops taking their vendetta against us out of the courts and into the classrooms of schools where they tell schoolkids the Green Brigade are bigots and laughably use the zombie banner as evidence of sectarianism. This is not to mention a wide range of other harassment, from illegal stop and searches of young bhoys in 111 to vindictive attempts to stop our lads earning a living.

Shooting at zombies is not a crime. Neither is supporting your team or being in the Green Brigade.

You can read more about the repression faced by the Green Brigade and find out why everyone must stand behind the men behind the banners (as well as loads of other good stuff) in Issue Four of The Thunder, out next week and available for pre-order here

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Mark Viduka on Goals On Sunday this morning talking about his time at Celtic. Mentioned how there was so much internal strife going on in the club that the fans never see etc.

However, he did say Celtic fans are the best in the world and he has his kids brought up as Celtic fans.

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Yeah I for one hope they start respecting that "no aggressive flag waving" rule :rolleyes:

All over the UK supporters moan about the treatment they get from stewards and police - and yes it is worse at Parkhead despite us having a far better reputation than most other clubs.

This isn't about Celtic fans sticking up for each other, it's about football fans sticking up for each other. Believe it or not, and I'm sure you won't, I would show my support if this was the Onion Bears or Red Ultras etc

Good for you I won't comment on the GB but your support for the UB is misplaced a bunch of wee boys with some older guys in charge with there Capo :eek: Acting like idiots and causing bother with things that the club have asked them not to do crying like babies when arrested and bottling it when the Police have the decency to warn them not to march as it would be illegal. They complained when the club would not allocate them more room at Ibrox and when the club arranged a meeting none of them turned up. Ultra's my arse.
Most ordinary fans would not be to bothered if they disappeared and left TBO to get on with it

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

I thought they were the same outfit tbh, apologies.

Nah two different groups another reason I don't like the UB is there attitude to sectarianism it stinks.

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

The story above is quite clear. 4 cops turning up at the airport like that for holding a flag??

While you may well be right mate. It is only one side of the story

The Green Brigade have released a statement. If only some of it is true it makes for very disturbing reading.

Towards the end of 2012, the Green Brigade announced a two-match boycott of Celtic Park due to the continued police harassment of our members. We hoped to highlight the extent of our ill-treatment and perhaps force the police into a re-think regarding their bully boy tactics. Sadly the harassment has actually worsened since then, leading up to the events of yesterday which left the group with little choice but to leave the stadium before kick-off.

It has reached the stage where our very existence is under serious threat as fans will not continue to pay £500+ to be treated like criminals.

After the disappointment of Tuesday night, we had made it our intention to thank the team for their efforts and once again back them to the hilt. However, it was clear that the police, and indeed club officials, were not going to allow this to happen.

Even before we had even got near Celtic Park, the police had tracked us down at the CSA on London Road. They took our merchandise off of people who had recently purchased it and questioned the staff as to why our members were allowed in the building.

As we approached the stadium and began to enter, some members were told that they were to leave as they had received a football banning order. No warning or explanation was given. Others were greeted by a message at the turnstile after swiping their card that read "suspended for one game." Again, without any warning or explanation as to why this was the case. These ‘’bans’’ were at the behest of the club and not the police, for reasons still unknown.

We were then approached by a Celtic steward who advised us to be wary when entering the section, as he was advised by Strathclyde Police that they intended to arrest some of our members, and that they were in possession of a 'wanted' list with names and pictures of the unfortunate fans who were to be singled out. It was at this point that we decided that we were putting our own members at risk by entering the stadium. As we made our way to the exits, one Focus officer, Tommy McCrindle, was grinning from ear to ear, goading the group into a reaction that fortunately he never got.

It would seem that the police and indeed the club have upped the ante even further in recent weeks. The facts are;

- We are now 10 members down since the turn of the year.

- We have had two members arrested and charged over the 'zombie' banner that was unfurled at the Norwich friendly. One of those members was arrested at a busy airport in front of family on arrival from holiday.

- The first of those charged had his first court appearance last week. This was laughed out of court but not before the stress and inconvenience of telling family members, taking time off work and missing big matches.

- Numerous members' have been harassed at their homes in recent weeks, another clear tactic of intimidation.

This is all done under the say-so of Strathclyde Police' FoCus unit. Celtic supporters have the same police officers following them week in, week out. This allows them to become familiar with the names and faces of our fans. It would appear that they use this familiarity to try to intimidate us even further. Simple things like name-dropping partner's names or family members' names has become an all too common theme. It's all part of the bullying nature of this unit. The aforementioned McCrindle actually has on his social networking site that his job description is "full-time Fume-a-pest & termite control." McCrindle was also in the midst of controversy following the Juventus game, as three members were arrested to be charged with a minor breach of the peace which quickly became offensive behaviour at the football, leading to banning orders being made a part of said members bail conditions. McCrindle even went as far as to attempt to pressure the Procurator Fiscal in to ensuring that one of the accused would not even be granted bail. The sad thing is that it's our money that pays this man's wages, whilst also affording this unit countless ‘’working holidays’’ to places like Amsterdam, Barcelona and Moscow.

After the last boycott, Peter Lawwell and Neil Lennon publicly expressed their desire to meet with us to iron out any issues we may have. We decided that this was something which we should try to use, so contacted them via a private email about this almost immediately. Sadly, they were 'too busy' but would contact us when they were ready. We're still waiting on them getting back to us about that particular email, although we did receive one prior to the Juventus game with an agenda that in no way mentioned any of the concerns that we outlined. We advised that we weren't prepared to discuss anything any further with them until our initial request was granted. We are still no further forward with that and as a result, any relationship with the club has completely disintegrated. Since this relationship has broken down the ticket office has become entirely uncooperative with us whilst the chief steward with whom we had a good working relationship with has been moved post.

We have never met with Neil Lennon before but have had numerous dealings with Lawwell in recent years. At almost every meeting, he has made promises that were never kept so this is nothing new. He met our members to discuss the fall-out over the "Let's go to War banner" that depicted Lennon setting fire to Ibrox and had "Huns FC" written on the stadium. This led to charges and court cases which lasted 18 months for 3 of our members. We had met with Lawwell to discuss this and to see if he could lend his support to the case. Lawwell advised us that he thought the charge was 'a joke' and it was his opinion that the term 'huns' was in no way offensive. Furthermore, he went onto say he'd be happy for the club to defend us in court. We were clearly delighted with this. However, when our lawyer contacted him about this a few weeks down the line, Lawwell denied all knowledge of the meeting and refused to comment any further. As if that wasn't bad enough, a senior member of Celtic security, David Brannan, was used as a prosecution witness.

We have heard in the last couple of weeks of meetings involving Lawwell and other Celtic fan groups. At these meetings, Lawwell has made no secret of the fact that he intends to see the end of the group sooner rather than later. He was quoted as saying that he would "give them enough rope to hang themselves." We were told that Lawwell used CCTV footage of the section to pinpoint who he felt the ringleaders were and picked out a member as someone who 'had to go'. We have also been informed that other fans groups may have attended similar meetings with Peter Lawwell and if this were the case, we would find it extremely disheartening that we were not informed of the club’s intentions by other Celtic fans. At this stage however Celtic’s agenda seems clear – They are intent on finishing the group off.

Our decision not to attend yesterday’s match was not something that we had planned. We simply felt that it was a decision that had to be made purely to protect our own members and those within 111. It has now gotten to the stage whereby members of our group live in constant fear of the police showing up at their homes or workplace with a trumped up charge, or to be told that they are banned from football matches as they approach the gates of 111. Now, more than ever, the continued support of the rest of the Celtic fans is appreciated immensely. We cannot stress enough that if things do not change for the better, the group will be unable to continue to attend matches to support the club that we all love.

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

No doubt all lies and the police are 100% correct. Some people just won't do as they are told :rolleyes:

Imagine following the laws of the country shocking stuff