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Feb 9th Protest - will you be joining?

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  • #392
    Boombastic
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    darkhorse wrote: »
    Just on the off-chance that there are any younger children reading this thread, here a simple explanation.


    A littleboy wanted €100 badly and prayed for two weeks but nothing happened.

    Then he decided to write God a letter requesting the €100. When the An Postauthorities received the letter addressed to God, they decided to send it tothe Taoiseach in Dublin.

    The Taoiseach was so impressed, touched and amused that he instructed hissecretary to send the little boy a €5 note.
    ...
    The Taoiseach thought this would appear to be a lot of money to a little boy.

    The little boy was delighted with the €5 and sat down to write a thank-you noteto God, which read:

    Dear God,
    Thank you very much for sending the money, however, I noticed that for somereason you had to send it through the Dail in Dublin and, as usual, thosecrooks deducted €95.00.


    Yes and the 47 administration staff that handled it along the way took €85 each and the front line delivery guy took €75. The little boy now owes
    €4165 :mad:

    I now owe


  • #393
    Fulton Crown
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    So as a nation we voted for crooks in power for almost the last 14 years ....silly us


  • #394
    Overflow
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    St.Spodo wrote: »
    Many, many people have lots of reasons to protest at the state of affairs in which they have found themselves through no fault of their own.

    No doubt, but you are short sighted and failing to see the bigger picture here. The private bankers are the ones who ran up the 64 billion bill you all have to pay, if you are happy taking one up the arse and paying €9000 each for their mistakes fair enough. Protesting is a means to give the people a voice, if it gains enough momentum, change will be inevitable.


  • #395
    jjbrien
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    Fulton Crown wrote: »
    So as a nation we voted for crooks in power for almost the last 14 years ....silly us

    I always voted againt FF. Usually Id go FG1 Lab2 Independant3 and go down the list until i got to the shinners usually gave them a 9. I belived leaving FF in power was a disaster. But now looking at it are we any better off under FG and Labor?


  • #396
    tayto lover
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    Fulton Crown wrote: »
    So as a nation we voted for crooks in power for almost the last 14 years ....silly us

    Correct and we still continue with it.


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  • #397
    woodoo
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    Yes and the 47 administration staff that handled it along the way took €85 each and the front line delivery guy took €75. The little boy now owes
    €4165 :mad:

    You are even making yourself angry with imaginary stuff from your own head. :D


  • #398
    Boombastic
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    woodoo wrote: »
    You are even making yourself angry with imaginary stuff from your own head. :D

    Just extending Darkhorses anology

    How's the backlog in the medical card office coming along? Surely they have sorted it out by now?;)


  • #399
    pitkan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭pitkan


    I attended seven protests last year re:Househould Tax and A&E closures but I will not be attending the farce that is set for Sat. 9th. February organised by ICTU.

    The reasons being: Where was Congress when the Universal Social Charge was being introduced?

    Where was Congress when the Household Tax was being introduced?

    Why is this not a one day stoppage during the working week?

    This protest reeks of garnering backing for their buddies in Government who are trying to get a debt write down at the expense of the ordinary Joe Soap worker.


  • #400
    jaffacakesyum
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    darkhorse wrote: »
    Ya probably did'nt agree with this one either:

    15,000 elderly and 10,000 young join in day of protest - News, The ...

    Or this one:

    Protest held over disability payments - The Irish Times - Wed, Nov ...

    And yet another poster who thinks putting words in my mouth will score points :rolleyes:

    Is there something you want to discuss in particular? Any points you have I will be happy to debate if you are polite enough not to make assumptions about someone you know nothing about.


  • #401
    woodoo
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    Just extending Darkhorses anology

    How's the backlog in the medical card office coming along? Surely they have sorted it out by now?;)

    Don't know i don't work there. But i'm sure they are doing fine as we don't hear much about it anymore.


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  • #402
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Government spending is up 7% per the figures released today. Most of it spent on social welfare. Where's this austerity we hear about, the only people suffering austerity are the taxpayers who are paying for this public spending and waste.


  • #403
    tayto lover
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    nice_very wrote: »
    the new national anthem (same tune, different lyrics) : mahhh maaaah mahh mah mahhhh..............

    yes, sheep speak for sheep peeps


    when will you people start to understand that the unions are in it for themselves? when I say unions, I mean the so called leaders who do nothing for the ordinary everyday worker, are in bed with the excuse of a government, and are only supporting a writedown of debt as they want a better deal for themselves, not their members, in crook park 2. wait until bailout 2 comes about, and it will come.

    dont be a sheep, come out to your local protest on the 9th and vocally express your disgust at union inactivity

    Looks like the Garda Unions will be marching/protesting with us.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0204/366...osed-pay-cuts/


  • #404
    hmmm
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    Looks like the Garda Unions will be marching/protesting with us.
    As will the firefighters, teachers, nurses, HSE, community workers, social workers, politicians and union leaders.

    Who are all feeding off the taxpayer and would love to see our taxes increased.


  • #405
    Boombastic
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    hmmm wrote: »
    As will the firefighters, teachers, nurses, HSE, community workers, social workers, politicians and union leaders.

    Who are all feeding off the taxpayer and would love to see our taxes increased.

    No not increased, they're increments in our rate of tax!:pac:




    * Awaits the 'you just don't understand increments' brigade


  • #406
    Lumbo
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    hmmm wrote: »
    As will the firefighters, teachers, nurses, HSE, community workers, social workers, politicians and union leaders.

    Who are all feeding off the taxpayer and would love to see our taxes increased.

    It's terrible that firefighters, teachers, nurses, HSE, community workers, social workers, politicians and union leaders don't pay tax.


  • #407
    tayto lover
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    hmmm wrote: »
    As will the firefighters, teachers, nurses, HSE, community workers, social workers, politicians and union leaders.

    Who are all feeding off the taxpayer and would love to see our taxes increased.

    I'd say all those groups pay taxes too :)


  • #408
    dvpower
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    pitkan wrote: »
    This protest reeks of garnering backing for their buddies in Government who are trying to get a debt write down at the expense of the ordinary Joe Soap worker.
    It is a protest in support of the Government's efforts to renegotiate the debt, but how would that be at the expense of the ordinary worker?


  • #409
    tayto lover
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    dvpower wrote: »
    It is a protest in support of the Government's efforts to renegotiate the debt, but how would that be at the expense of the ordinary worker?

    And what a poor effort it is :pac:


  • #410
    dvpower
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    Looks like the Garda Unions will be marching/protesting with us.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0204/366...osed-pay-cuts/[/QUOTE]
    Truncated link


  • #411
    woodoo
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    hmmm wrote: »
    As will the firefighters, teachers, nurses, HSE, community workers, social workers, politicians and union leaders.

    Who are all feeding off the taxpayer and would love to see our taxes increased.

    How can you not get this hmmm. If taxes are increased we all pay them, they reduce my take home pay the same as yours.


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  • #412
    tayto lover
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    dvpower wrote: »
    tayto lover wrote: »
    Looks like the Garda Unions will be marching/protesting with us.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0204/366...osed-pay-cuts/[/QUOTE]
    Truncated link

    Hope this works -

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0204/366...osed-pay-cuts/

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0204/366076-garda-chiefs-union-to-meet-over-proposed-pay-cuts/


  • #413
    pitkan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭pitkan


    dvpower wrote: »
    It is a protest in support of the Government's efforts to renegotiate the debt, but how would that be at the expense of the ordinary worker?


    Congress are hoping for the backing of the workers,the individual Unions of which sang dumb when the same workers, whom they are supposed to be representing, were saddled with the USC etc.


  • #414
    Boombastic
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    dvpower wrote: »

    Hope this works -

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0204/366...osed-pay-cuts/

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0204/366076-garda-chiefs-union-to-meet-over-proposed-pay-cuts/

    Sorry - the page you are looking for cannot be found

    edit: second one works


  • #415
    tayto lover
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    pitkan wrote: »
    Congress are hoping for the backing of the workers,the individual Unions of which sang dumb when the same workers, whom they are supposed to be representing, were saddled with the USC etc.

    Agree. BUT the workers are prodding them into action now it seems. About time.


  • #416
    Boombastic
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    from the article posted above on RTE


    However, the GRA says it will examine any revised proposals and cost-saving measures that do not impact on pay or hours worked.



    What do the GRA suggest? Cut numbers? Cut more equipment?


  • #417
    Prodigious
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    You have no right to complain about the state of the country unless you are prepared to stand up and do something about it.


  • #418
    Boombastic
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    Methememb wrote: »
    You have no right to complain about the state of the country unless you are prepared to stand up and do something about it.

    Is standing up in support of the unions the only way to do it?


  • #419
    Prodigious
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Is standing up in support of the unions the only way to do it?

    It's a start.


  • #420
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    pitkan wrote: »
    Congress are hoping for the backing of the workers,the individual Unions of which sang dumb when the same workers, whom they are supposed to be representing, were saddled with the USC etc.
    Its true that the unions haven't exactly covered themselves in glory, but the question is really about how workers would be worse off if the government managed to negotiate a deal on the debt.
    This would be a good thing, that would benefit everyone, no?


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  • #421
    dvpower
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    Agree. BUT the workers are prodding them into action now it seems. About time.
    The action they are prodding for is in support of the current Government approach.


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