Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

Lennonist · 31-01-2013 02:26PM

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Just wasn't his day is all. Wanyama played pretty crap too was that because of transfer interest or just because he had an off day?

I don't think when Hooper pulled his foot back to shoot a glorious career getting pumped every week at Carrow Road flashed before his eyes and caused him to miss. Sometimes football fans and the media just love to read into things too much.

And yeah I got a 14 day ban for 18 days after I said Newcastle fans have unrealistic expectations

But Newcastle are managed by Alan Pardew, man's a genius.

SomethingElse · 31-01-2013 04:27PM

A fourth offer for Hooper has been rejected

eire4 · 31-01-2013 06:13PM

Lennonist wrote: »

.....and Archie MacPherson commentating. Great entertainment.

It was a laugh wasn't it listening to him butcher some of the players names.

Good repsonse from the team overall. Really if Hooper didn't have an off day in front of goal it could have been a very big score. Matthews easily man of the match but also delighted to see Stokes have such a big impact when he came on and get a goal as well. Getting him back given he has missed basically the whole season up until last week is like signing a quality new striker.

BhoscaCapall · 31-01-2013 06:18PM

eire4 wrote: »

Getting him back given he has missed basically the whole season up until last week is like signing a quality new striker.

Ah go 'way with that cliché

Seriously though I think a lot of our fans underappreciate Stokes and have forgotten the value of him and Hooper's partnership. One of the reasons I really hope Lennon starts playing them both up top again.

Jelle1880 · 31-01-2013 08:54PM

SomethingElse wrote: »

A fourth offer for Hooper has been rejected

9.2 from Norwich :eek:

Fair play for holding out when that amount is being thrown at him.

edit: SSN now saying it was 7m.
Still, a big amount.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 31-01-2013 08:56PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

9.2 from Norwich :eek:

Fair play for holding out when that amount is being thrown at him.

Lennon just tweeted its not true. And SKY have now said it was in the region of 7m. No one has a clue

BhoscaCapall · 31-01-2013 08:59PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Lennon just tweeted its not true. And SKY have now said it was in the region of 7m. No one has a clue

£7m was the 4th bid. £9.2 was a rumoured 5th, perhaps from an unknown club in an unknown universe etc

After all the condescending reports about how we're a selling club (sic) and are going to have all our players taken off us by superior clubs like Norwich (sic), I wonder will the media consider painting this as a victory for Scottish football, or at least for a Celtic. A lesson in holding your own and demonstrating the stature, financial security and serious plan for success we have.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 31-01-2013 09:03PM

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

£7m was the 4th bid. £9.2 was a rumoured 5th, perhaps from an unknown club in an unknown universe etc

After all the condescending reports about how we're a selling club (sic) and are going to have all our players taken off us by superior clubs like Norwich (sic), I wonder will the media consider painting this as a victory for Scottish football, or at least for a Celtic. A lesson in holding your own and demonstrating the stature, financial security and serious plan for success we have.

Aye whatever

BhoscaCapall · 31-01-2013 09:44PM

Structured my post poorly there sorry. The first line was in response to your post. The other part is for everyone else, couldn't care less about your opinion there.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 31-01-2013 10:12PM

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Structured my post poorly there sorry. The first line was in response to your post. The other part is for everyone else, couldn't care less about your opinion there.

Ah well as far as I am still concerned it is still

Aye whatever

EdenHazard · 31-01-2013 10:15PM

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

£7m was the 4th bid. £9.2 was a rumoured 5th, perhaps from an unknown club in an unknown universe etc

After all the condescending reports about how we're a selling club (sic) and are going to have all our players taken off us by superior clubs like Norwich (sic), I wonder will the media consider painting this as a victory for Scottish football, or at least for a Celtic. A lesson in holding your own and demonstrating the stature, financial security and serious plan for success we have.

Serious plans for what? SPL dominance? Hooper going to Norwich is the level Celtic are at. A nobody English team is a tempting prospect for your star player, even though your in the last 16 of the CL. It doesn't get better for Celtic tbh.

Beefy78 · 31-01-2013 10:17PM

Lads, Anthony Stokes. Do we think he'll get a chance over the next few weeks what with a lot of games coming up and maybe Hooper being saved for the Champions League matches?

SomethingElse · 31-01-2013 10:27PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

Lads, Anthony Stokes. Do we think he'll get a chance over the next few weeks what with a lot of games coming up and maybe Hooper being saved for the Champions League matches?

He'll definitely get game time but I'd be very surprised if he starts either of the CL matches.

We're being linked with Doyle now.

BhoscaCapall · 31-01-2013 10:28PM

EdenHazard wrote: »

Serious plans for what? SPL dominance? Hooper going to Norwich is the level Celtic are at. A nobody English team is a tempting prospect for your star player, even though your in the last 16 of the CL. It doesn't get better for Celtic tbh.

There's an art to trolling, a fine line between getting a rise and looking like a clown and you've fallen the wrong side of it. In future you should incorporate bits of reality in your post.

Beefy78 wrote: »

Lads, Anthony Stokes. Do we think he'll get a chance over the next few weeks what with a lot of games coming up and maybe Hooper being saved for the Champions League matches?

More a case of him being partnered with Hooper than instead of.

EdenHazard · 31-01-2013 10:28PM

Doyle will destroy SPL. Be a good move for both.

SomethingElse · 31-01-2013 10:48PM

Don't know how accurate this is but it appears we may have signed a new keeper, Viktor Noring

BhoscaCapall · 31-01-2013 10:50PM

SomethingElse wrote: »

Don't know how accurate this is but it appears we may have signed a new keeper, Viktor Noring

It's accurate. Been going down for a few days already.

PauloMN · 31-01-2013 11:25PM

EdenHazard wrote: »

Doyle will destroy SPL.

Bet he wouldn't. Doyle isn't coming, and to be honest, no great loss. Stokes is better, assuming he can keep his head down off field.

BhoscaCapall · 01-02-2013 12:00AM

Stokes is better regardless of who he socialises with off the pitch.

PauloMN · 01-02-2013 08:26AM

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Stokes is better regardless of who he socialises with off the pitch.

Correct, however my point is he won't be on the pitch to show that unless he keeps the head down.

stooge · 01-02-2013 08:35AM

Disagree lads, although Doyle doesnt score enough goals he is a real workhouse and is one of the best at holding the ball up and bring others into the game. I'd take Doyle over Stokes any day. Doyle and a poacher like Hooper would be a great combination IMO. Anyway, pretty much irrelavent now that the window is closed!

premierstone · 01-02-2013 12:55PM

stooge wrote: »

Disagree lads, although Doyle doesnt score enough goals he is a real workhouse and is one of the best at holding the ball up and bring others into the game. I'd take Doyle over Stokes any day. Doyle and a poacher like Hooper would be a great combination IMO. Anyway, pretty much irrelavent now that the window is closed!

Pretty sure the Doyle move was back up incase Hooper went at the last minute so he was never going to get to play with Hooper, Doyle and Stokes would be a very similar partnership though.

premierstone · 01-02-2013 01:00PM

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

After all the condescending reports about how we're a selling club (sic) and are going to have all our players taken off us by superior clubs like Norwich (sic), I wonder will the media consider painting this as a victory for Scottish football, or at least for a Celtic. A lesson in holding your own and demonstrating the stature, financial security and serious plan for success we have.

Think you might be getting a bit carried away with yourself there Bhosca, the reality is we have merely delayed Hooper's departure by 6 months, similarly Wanyama and quite possibly Forster and one I reckon a few English clubs will be sniffing around is Matthews.

The big test will come with what is done with the money received ie hte level and quality of re-investments, that will show a truer reflection of where we and Scottish football stand in the bigger scheme of things.

BhoscaCapall · 01-02-2013 02:20PM

stooge wrote: »

Doyle and a poacher like Hooper would be a great combination IMO. Anyway, pretty much irrelavent now that the window is closed!

Two poachers is not a great combination... plenty of games we struggle to create chances for Hooper to put away. Stokes is one of the only creative players we have, hence why they work so well together.

Everyone raved about the number of goals Hooper was scoring last season but people seemed to forgot Stokes scored nearly as many in less appearances and set a lot of Hooper's up.

premierstone wrote: »

Think you might be getting a bit carried away with yourself there Bhosca

I think I was being a fair bit tongue-in-cheek

the reality is we have merely delayed Hooper's departure by 6 months, similarly Wanyama and quite possibly Forster and one I reckon a few English clubs will be sniffing around is Matthews.

That's one way of phrasing it. Another is that we've retained their services for the rest of our campaign.

Judging by the bids Norwich started at, they seemed to think we were some small club stuck for money that was just waiting for a glorious Premiership giant such as themselves to come along and relieve us of our cash cow. Fact is, we're a bigger, more successful and more financially secure club than most of what I would call the Small 16 (well if there's a "Big 4"...).

Fwiw I don't think Forster will leave. We won't allow it. He's contracted for another 3 seasons after this and is more important to us than Hooper. If/when he does go it will be for a whole lot more than the £2m we paid. Look at Gordon - £9m and he was the third best keeper in the league (and the top 2 were not as good as Forster is now).

Matthews is another I think will be here for a long time. Just doesn't strike me as the type who's only here to get a "bigger" move.

Lennonist · 01-02-2013 05:25PM

Delighted we kept Hooper and Wanyama. Hooper will likely leave in the summer because he wants to play in the EPL, and with his contract running down Celtic will get less for him than if they cashed in yesterday. It's a declaration of intent that Celtic mean business and can afford to take that financial hit on Hooper when weighed up against having him available to us when we take on Juventus. Time to get stuck in now, try and win the double, and have a square go v Juve.

Lennonist · 01-02-2013 05:39PM

It's also a declaration of intent that if EPL clubs want to buy Celtic players, they are buying players with CL experience and there is a premium that comes with that. It sets a precedent that Celtic are prepared - and can afford - to let a player wind his contract down if they don't get offered what they reckon a player is worth. As long as Celtic can maintain a consistent CL Group Stage presence, they can afford to, and will take this stance.

Lennonist · 01-02-2013 05:49PM

Clear off Norwich:D

Eirebear · 02-02-2013 03:53AM

I've got to be honest, Hopper is the best strikers I've seen in Scotland for a long time.
His movement in the penalty area is ridiculous, and any creative midfielder would find him a dream to play with.
He's still a horrible man with wierd eyes but.....

PauloMN · 02-02-2013 09:21AM

Eirebear wrote: »

I've got to be honest, Hopper is the best strikers I've seen in Scotland for a long time.
His movement in the penalty area is ridiculous, and any creative midfielder would find him a dream to play with.
He's still a horrible man with wierd eyes but.....

Lay off the sauce there EB!

BhoscaCapall · 02-02-2013 01:27PM

Did often wonder what Rangers fans felt about Hooper actually. He isn't a dirty player, he doesn't dive or mouth off at anyone... he's just pretty bloody good footballer.

He's not likeable like Larsson or someone but he doesn't really have any negatives. He did always score against them though so I suspect they didn't like him much :pac:

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