Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

Savage Tyrant · 16-07-2012 02:47PM

Lars1916 wrote: »

Whatever that means :rolleyes:

I just read that as an acceptance by all that Newco will be playing bottom tier football this season.

Lawrence1895 · 16-07-2012 02:53PM

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

I just read that as an acceptance by all that Newco will be playing bottom tier football this season.

You could also read between the lines...like helping them generously

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 04:09PM

Lars1916 wrote: »

You could also read between the lines...like helping them generously

Exactly in what way would they help ??

Lawrence1895 · 16-07-2012 04:30PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Exactly in what way would they help ??

Don't know, but to 'facilitate' sounds to me like offering assistance to someone, who is not used to the surroundings or circumstances'

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 04:37PM

Lars1916 wrote: »

Don't know, but to 'facilitate' sounds to me like offering assistance to someone, who is not used to the surroundings or circumstances'

Well we would be in the third a division we no nothing about I get more from it as in things such as paperwork etc would be expedited without to much bother.
I really don't see what else it could be we know the fixture list etc

lubo_moravcik · 16-07-2012 04:50PM

Oh dear, it just keeps going on and on and on
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/111126-rangers-league-place-at-risk-as-scottish-fa-insist-signing-ban-must-stand/

Rangers' league place at risk as Scottish FA insist signing ban must stand

Rangers’ prospects of playing in the Third Division remain uncertain because of a stand-off between the Scottish FA and Charles Green over conditions attached to the transfer of the club’s membership.

STV understands Sevco Scotland Limited is currently unwilling to accept the imposition of a 12-month signing embargo, originally placed upon the club by the governing body on May 11.

The Scottish FA want Green to accept the punishment as a condition of membership transfer, despite Lord Glennie ruling at a Court of Session hearing on May 29 that they had acted outwith their powers in imposing the ban on the club.

An appellate tribunal was told to reconvene to discuss a different sanction from within the rule book. This is currently on hold, with Green having the option to ask for membership to be transferred in exchange for the tribunal meeting again.

The sanctions available to the panel are unlikely to be palatable to the club, as they include the potential suspension or expulsion of the club from the Scottish game, as well as a possible exclusion from the Scottish Cup.

Should Green refuse to meet the Scottish FA’s demands, he will be forced to apply for a completely new membership not tied to the former club.

However, as Sevco Scotland Limited does not meet the financial requirements set down to join the organisation, they would not be eligible and would not be able to play football in Scotland.

If Green accepts for the signing ban to be imposed, Rangers will take up a place as an associate member of the Scottish Football League and will play in the Third Division this season. Clubs must have membership of the national association to play in a league.

Conditions of transfer

The Scottish FA have made clear to Green that they will only transfer Rangers’ membership to his new company if he agrees to the imposition of the registration ban.

If he refuses, the governing body will either transfer the membership but allow their appellate tribunal to reconvene, leaving open the possibility of Rangers either being suspended from the game for an indefinite period or being thrown out of the game altogether.

Should Green decline those conditions, the Scottish FA will refuse to transfer the membership and, as Sevco Scotland Limited do not meet the necessary requirements, Rangers will not play professional football in Scotland at least for the next year.

The Scottish FA also want Green to agree to pay all outstanding football debt as another condition of the membership being transferred.

They also want the new company to take responsibility for any sanctions later imposed by the Scottish Premier League following its investigation into alleged non-contractual payments to players.

At a meeting on Monday, Green told Ibrox employees there would be a “staffing review” following the decision of the Scottish Football League to place the club in the Third Division for the 2012/13 season.

lubo_moravcik · 16-07-2012 04:56PM

"Green just held a meeting he said :

'' It saddens me to have to announce that there will be major staff cuts being made at Ibrox. It's the only way the Club will survive''

Then walked out.

I'm told it took the staff longer to get in and sit down.

Just been a staff meeting at Ibrox; staff told they are not at present a member of the SFA as they want to impose further sanctions that they are unwilling to accept and that redundancies will be imposed over the next week or two.

As people have been saying, I can't see them playing anywhere next year. Seems like the shut down is on to realise the profit from the assets.

No one wants to see anyone lose their job, that's the **** part about all of this. Who will be the first to go Bears? Backroom staff, coaches, manager, or the tea lady and receptionist??

Pompey Magnus · 16-07-2012 04:59PM

Pretty disgraceful to continue with the transfer ban, the current club has done nothing wrong and it makes no sense to punish them for the sins of a seperate club no longer in existence.

Jelle1880 · 16-07-2012 05:22PM

How the **** can they try and get that signing ban re-instated, when a court has said that it's not part of the possible punishments ?

Idiots.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 05:45PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

How the **** can they try and get that signing ban re-instated, when a court has said that it's not part of the possible punishments ?

Idiots.

Green has accepted it according to SSN we can replace players that have left but that's it

Jelle1880 · 16-07-2012 06:07PM

Nah, he said that an agreement has been reached, nothing more.

Jelle1880 · 16-07-2012 06:10PM

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2986&newsID=10203&newsCategoryID=1

Bunch of deluded *****.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 06:11PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Nah, he said that an agreement has been reached, nothing more.

Well if an agreement has been reached and they are not backing down on the transfer ban it can only mean.
One we are allowed to replace players that leave or Two Its starting from Sept 1st which was mentioned before but that would mean we couldn't sign players until Jan 2014

Savage Tyrant · 16-07-2012 06:14PM

Punishing a new club for the sins of a dead one. I can see why you's would be annoyed.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 06:16PM

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

Punishing a new club for the sins of a dead one. I can see why you's would be annoyed.

Thats the other thing and the only good thing to come out of it as they are still willing to punish us for this and the EBT's then our history is intact

lubo_moravcik · 16-07-2012 06:38PM

Re the transfer ban, how are you going to buy new players if you're struggling to pay the bills as it is????

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 06:41PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Re the transfer ban, how are you going to buy new players if you're struggling to pay the bills as it is????

For one you are talking about wages a lot lower also we know there will be pay offs among non playing staff also

Its called cutting our cloth
Oh and if we can't sign players how are we supposed to field a team

lubo_moravcik · 16-07-2012 06:46PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

For one you are talking about wages a lot lower also we know there will be pay offs among non playing staff also

Its called cutting our cloth
Oh and if we can't sign players how are we supposed to field a team

:rolleyes:

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 06:48PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Wow really good answer that explains everything :rolleyes:

lubo_moravcik · 16-07-2012 07:33PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Wow really good answer that explains everything :rolleyes:

What did you want explained? You have no money, and am wondering if you have enough players to field a team. How many players are actually in the newco squad???

Savage Tyrant · 16-07-2012 07:34PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Oh and if we can't sign players how are we supposed to field a team

The embargo only prohibited the registration of players over 18.
Would they expect you to play a full year with a squad made up of 16 and 17 year olds?

It doesn't make sense to me. The SFA were steadfast in the belief that Newco should play in the second tier for the financial security of the Scottish game... But the insistence of the transfer embargo while they don't have a full squad could quite possibly kill the club before it ever gets off the ground properly.
It's a confusing one.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 07:39PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

What did you want explained? You have no money, and am wondering if you have enough players to field a team. How many players are actually in the newco squad???

If you make :rolleyes: and put in bold Oh and if we can't sign players how are we supposed to field a team

Then I presumed that you had some sort of answer but it seems your sole contribution is wee smileys.

You do not know what money Green has available and as I have said we will have to cut our cloth

lubo_moravcik · 16-07-2012 07:42PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

If you make :rolleyes: and put in bold Oh and if we can't sign players how are we supposed to field a team

Then I presumed that you had some sort of answer but it seems your sole contribution is wee smileys.

You do not know what money Green has available and as I have said we will have to cut our cloth

:rolleyes:

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 07:44PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

lubo_moravcik · 16-07-2012 07:45PM

my contribution was initially this. There's cutting your cloth and there's being realistic. Am wondering how you can field a team, and how many players you actually have in your squad just now

"Green just held a meeting he said :

'' It saddens me to have to announce that there will be major staff cuts being made at Ibrox. It's the only way the Club will survive''

Then walked out.

I'm told it took the staff longer to get in and sit down.

Just been a staff meeting at Ibrox; staff told they are not at present a member of the SFA as they want to impose further sanctions that they are unwilling to accept and that redundancies will be imposed over the next week or two.

As people have been saying, I can't see them playing anywhere next year. Seems like the shut down is on to realise the profit from the assets.

Do you think there is a chance that you might actually not play any football, anywhere, next season/????

Ludo · 16-07-2012 07:49PM

Who are those quotes from?
Twitter? Which user?

lubo_moravcik · 16-07-2012 07:51PM

Ludo wrote: »

Who are those quotes from?
Twitter? Which user?

a RST member from FF

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 07:51PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

my contribution was initially this. There's cutting your cloth and there's being realistic. Am wondering how you can field a team, and how many players you actually have in your squad just now

Do you think there is a chance that you might actually not play any football, anywhere, next season/????

I can take quotes from forums as well but I trust this one

Just spoke to an employee who said that the meeting was not as short as suggested in op, but message was accurate.

Being realistic its the third division wages are generally very low
There is only a chance if Green refuses to accept the Transfer Embargo which has already been deemed unlawful it seems as though Regan wants to have his cake and eat it

killabban182 · 16-07-2012 07:52PM

Helix wrote: »

why would the FA let a foreign club into the higher end of its football structure? any new club would join from the bottom like the rest

I am not saying for Rangers to start at the high end of the English game, I was thinking if they have to start in the lower leagues it might as well be in England as the rewards would be better in the long run.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-07-2012 07:52PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

a RST member from FF

LOL and the RST want Green out they are backing John Brown FFs I and the majority of fans don't trust the RST

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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