Garda Recruitment - Applying to join An Garda Siochana

Ruairi88 wrote: »

Hi Eroo,

I was on to Garda Hq today over my Reserve Application. While I was on the phone I requested information in relation to the Increments (Salary Pay Scale) and if they were still in place for people who have completed a third level degree and hoping to join AGS.

The lady in the office CONFIRMED that there is still increments for such as mentioned above, However, she said this was subject to change.

Finally, and not having a go, but, you said and I quote "The Gardai don't want people who spent 3-4 years just drinking" that's prejudicial a lot of people who attend/attended college work their asses off and the prospect of drinking does not appeal to them. It didn't appeal to me anyway.What about the Social Care students who are out on placement from Jan-May? Working with Disabled people, working with children with intellectual disabilities/problems etc...I would encourage people to seek third level education I see it day in day out CV's coming into the office "Anyone without a third level education send it to the shredder. I think it is vital (if) you are ambitious and plan to excel. The ECDL, First Aid and been an efficient swimmer can all be learned on a "Part-time" basis.

You'll see below my original post. My point was the Gardai don't want people who just partied in college, they want people with real life experience working in a team, solving problems etc. I never said you couldn't do that while in college! e.g. my point on work and college below. Hope that clears it up for you? I still stand by my point that work experience(including long college placements) is valued much more than 4 years of studies though.

eroo wrote: »

The Gardai don't want people who spent 3-4 years just drinking in college.. they want people who have experience working in a team, solving problems, working shifts and making decisions. It is possible to go to college and work too, a great way to get the best of both worlds.

Not too sure tbh senor! I'd say it will be a thing of the past though, unfortunately!

spudz21 wrote: »

Just saw on rte news.....Shatter has announced 500 to go by end of the year and so far 40 early next year....

(cant link it:()

Sounds like he has proved himself wrong after all the spin he's been giving until now.

Im nearly finished school now and i have my heart set on becoming a garda and i was wondering if someone could give me some advice
I was wondering how do you apply to get in to the college
I also was hoping that someone would tell me about the costs and things regarding money wise
Thank you for the help if it is giving please get back to me thanks .

bluetop wrote: »

sheridan kiid wrote: »

Im nearly finished school now and i have my heart set on becoming a garda and i was wondering if someone could give me some advice
I was wondering how do you apply to get in to the college
I also was hoping that someone would tell me about the costs and things regarding money wise
Thank you for the help if it is giving please get back to me thanks .

At the present time there is no recruitment to AGS apart from Reserves, so for the next few years i would be looking else where for employment, as and when recruitment does start again there will be thousands looking to join.

Well i have a few years to go nd im really keen on becomin a garda and trying to get as much advice on it as possible

bluetop wrote: »

sheridan kiid wrote: »

Well i have a few years to go nd im really keen on becomin a garda and trying to get as much advice on it as possible

I suggest you join the Reserve force, this will give you an insight into the job, you will know then if its for you or not, go to public jobs.ie for details.

Thanks a million

bubblypop wrote: »

sheridan kiid wrote: »

Im nearly finished school now and i have my heart set on becoming a garda and i was wondering if someone could give me some advice
I was wondering how do you apply to get in to the college
I also was hoping that someone would tell me about the costs and things regarding money wise
Thank you for the help if it is giving please get back to me thanks .

my advice to you would be just to go ahead and do whatever you feel like doing.
go to college and study something you're really interested in or go travelling and see the world. get yourself some 'life' experience.
when, and will prob be a few years, that they start recruiting again you will have lots of time to come back and apply and/or join the recruits if thats what you want then.

Thanks for the advice

hey guys kinda new to this so bear with me?

anybody know the ASG's posistion on asthma whether its a straight out NO at the medical or will someone still stand a chance of getting in?

cheers for any advice

was lookin for more of an official standpoint, cheers for the reply though

Eoin_Minnock wrote: »

hey guys kinda new to this so bear with me?

anybody know the ASG's posistion on asthma whether its a straight out NO at the medical or will someone still stand a chance of getting in?

cheers for any advice

Asthma is manageable. But if your asthma is so constantly severe that you will miss a lot of work due to illness you wont make it past the probation anyway.
Why put yourself in a position where by working irregular hours and often in poor climatic conditions you will only make your health worse

sdeire wrote: »

Can't and won't be that long. The force has lost over 1,000 in the last three years and according to the commissioner shouldn't be let fall below 13,000 - and it's at ~13,500 at the moment. Meaning that at the very most, two years.

Think again !

No Garda recruitment on horizon

The rate of Garda retirements is running well ahead of expectations but recruitment is unlikely to start again until 2014 at the earliest because a key end-of-year target under the terms of the EU-IMF bailout has been missed.

The number of members of the force was to have been cut to 13,000 by the end of 2012 but remains at 13,440.

Minister for Justice and Defence Alan Shatter yesterday pointed out that under the terms of the EU-IMF programme, Garda numbers must fall to “at least” 13,000.

He said it was possible numbers might fall below that level and he could give no assurances on when Garda recruitment might start again.

“The last Garda graduation was in March-April 2011 so we still have a force of a relatively young age,” he told the Oireachtas Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality.

Mr Shatter was responding to questions from Niall Collins TD (FF) who pointed out that Garda training took two years from the initial point of recruitment to graduation.

Numbers were being run down at the same time that Garda stations were closing. Communities were very worried and he urged Mr Shatter to begin Garda recruitment again next year.

Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan said last week that he would not like to see Garda numbers fall below 13,000.

No recruitment drive

While unable yesterday to say definitively how many Garda members would retire next year, some of the figures set out by Mr Shatter suggested any new recruitment drive would not occur in the near future.

In the Garda budget for 2012, the commissioner had made provision for the payment of 375 retirement lump sums.

However, the year had seen 470 retirements, leaving a force of 13,440; far above the 13,000 target for 2012 in the bailout conditions.

Mr Shatter said the offer of more favourable pension arrangements for public servants who retired before the end of February had resulted in some Garda members retiring who otherwise would have stayed on.

There were 1,200 Garda members with 30 years of service who were entitled to retire, although there was no indication a significant number of these were about to retire, Mr Shatter said. However, sources said with 2012 having seen a spike in retirements, the rate of departures next year was likely to be slower.

“Everyone who was of a mind to go early is now probably gone,” said one source.

Numbers in force

It means that by the end of next year, numbers in the force will still not be down to 13,000 from their current level of 13,440.

With Mr Shatter pointing out that the force might be allowed to fall below 13,000 members, it would mean numbers had between 12 and 18 months, perhaps longer, to continue falling before the Government would be forced to step in and begin recruitment again.

Interesting article:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...329515276.html

Gardaí may be recruited byyear end, says Shatter

CONORLALLY, Crime Correspondent

Ministerfor Justice Alan Shatter has said he will consider restarting Garda recruitmentby the end of the year but defended the closure of 95 Garda stations, sayingthey were no longer needed.

He saidthe locations of many that officially closed yesterday had been decided as partof Britain’s plan to police the “rebellious Irish” as far back as 1850. “It isworth making the point that the spike in burglaries which unfortunatelyoccurred in 2011 occurred without a single Garda station being closed,” hesaid.

Mobilegangs

Thecriminal underworld had changed in recent years and gangs carrying out seriouscrimes, including robbing and attacking people in their homes, often travelledgreat distances. Burglaries and other crimes also occurred from the eveninginto the early hours of the morning. “An individual guard sitting in a Gardastation for three hours for four or five days is not in a position to addressthat issue,” he said.

He didnot elaborate on his plans for Garda recruitment but said he would bringproposals to Cabinet by year end.

MrShatter was speaking at the launch of a Garda community crime preventionprogrammes booklet and the signing of a memorandum of understanding between theGarda and Muintir na Tíre dealing with community alert initiatives.

Hedeclined to comment on the words of Fr Michael Cusack, who strongly questionedthe withdrawal of a permanent policing presence from communities whenaddressing mourners at the funeral in Dundalk, Co Louth, of Det Garda AdrianDonohoe.

MrShatter did not rule out closing more stations next year, with 135 having beenshut in the past 12 months.

Theclosures began in 2011, when he asked Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan toidentify stations to close in 2012. That resulted in 40 closures and, 95 wereearmarked for 2013. A further five will close this year bringing the total for2013 to 100.

MrShatter said there remained 564 stations for a population of 4.5 million. InScotland there 340 stations for 5.2 million, and 83 in Northern Ireland for 1.8million, down from 160 in the year 2000.

Hesuggested the 2014 policing plan by Mr Callinan later this year might containadvice relating to further closures.