Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

mike65 · 13-07-2012 01:47PM

Psychologically speaking the biggest losers here are Celtic supporters, sure they'll enjoy it for a few months but its going to be a very hollow league victory come next May.

Helix · 13-07-2012 01:48PM

mike65 wrote: »

Psychologically speaking the biggest losers here are Celtic supporters, sure they'll enjoy it for a few months but its going to be a very hollow league victory come next May.

in 3 or 4 years time i dont think they'll be winning the league at a canter any more. they now know they have to invest very little to win the league, and no player is going to join them on the basis of a few champions league games every year, so they'll see a massive drop in the standard of signings which could lead to a surprise increase in competitiveness in the medium term

The_Kew_Tour · 13-07-2012 01:50PM

mike65 wrote: »

Psychologically speaking the biggest losers here are Celtic supporters, sure they'll enjoy it for a few months but its going to be a very hollow league victory come next May.

They did not cheat. Yes I am sure they will miss the "banter" shall we say with Rangers fans, if/when(most likely the latter) they win the league next May that should not make the title any less an acheivement then their previous 40 odd titles.

PauloMN · 13-07-2012 01:57PM

"Rangers also get their wish to play in England! Berwick Rangers away "

As for Celtic fans, nothing we can do about it, Rangers fcuked up and got the right punishment in the end. I expect the quality of our signings will take some hit, but I don't think it will be as pronounced as some might think. It will be interesting to see if clubs like Dundee United can take advantage of the void, and be a stronger side when Sevco work their way up to the SPL.

As for the banter, well I don't think I'll miss it too much.... Hearts are always there for that! ;-)

cruiserweight · 13-07-2012 01:57PM

While I am happy that the right thing has happened with respect to the vote, until the season kicks off and all teams have played a game I am not counting on Rangers actually being in division three

alex thomson ‏@alextomo

WARNING. Club chairman "Everyone in that room heard that Stewart Regan informed Charles Green that there's no way "Rangers" will be in D3 .

_blank_ · 13-07-2012 02:00PM

mike65 wrote: »

Psychologically speaking the biggest losers here are Celtic supporters, sure they'll enjoy it for a few months but its going to be a very hollow league victory come next May.

Do Liverpool FC define themselves as "non-Everton"?

What you are saying about Celtic is just as stupid.

PauloMN · 13-07-2012 02:04PM

So when is Gazza signing?

And where's Brewster ffs?

average_runner · 13-07-2012 02:09PM

Could there be a major financial lost here for Celtic and could this cause Celtic to hit money problems?

_blank_ · 13-07-2012 02:13PM

average_runner wrote: »

Could there be a major financial lost here for Celtic and could this cause Celtic to hit money problems?

No.

premierstone · 13-07-2012 02:14PM

average_runner wrote: »

Could there be a major financial lost here for Celtic and could this cause Celtic to hit money problems?

Not really, Celtic is the one club in Scotland that isn't dependent on another club/clubs financially, the TV money we keep hearing about is pittance and one decent run in Europe would offset that and the two Old Firm games a year in Celtic Park that will be lost.

smackbunnybaby · 13-07-2012 02:16PM

farce:

RANGERS STATEMENT ON CLUB WEBSITE
"Rangers' future remains uncertain after the Scottish Football League clubs voted against the Light Blues playing in the First Division next season.

"At a meeting at Hampden today, the 30 member clubs agreed to accept Rangers into the SFL but voted against the SFL board being allowed to broker a deal with the SPL and SFA over new structures and procedures which would also include Rangers playing in Division One.

"It is now understood that on the back of a briefing SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster and SFA counterpart Stewart Regan gave to clubs last week that the SPL will introduce a plan for SPL 2 - which would include Rangers - and invite existing Division One members to join."

delos · 13-07-2012 02:17PM

average_runner wrote: »

Could there be a major financial lost here for Celtic and could this cause Celtic to hit money problems?

Celtic, along with the others, will just have to cut their cloth according to their means. I know a lot less than others here about the financial situation with Celtic but if the other SPL clubs have to build a business model that isn't reliant on 4 big pay days a season and are forced to bring on young Scottish talent then some good might actually come out of this.

Now let's see if the SPL gets the make-over it so desperately needs......

_blank_ · 13-07-2012 02:20PM

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

farce:

RANGERS STATEMENT ON CLUB WEBSITE
"Rangers' future remains uncertain after the Scottish Football League clubs voted against the Light Blues playing in the First Division next season.

"At a meeting at Hampden today, the 30 member clubs agreed to accept Rangers into the SFL but voted against the SFL board being allowed to broker a deal with the SPL and SFA over new structures and procedures which would also include Rangers playing in Division One.

"It is now understood that on the back of a briefing SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster and SFA counterpart Stewart Regan gave to clubs last week that the SPL will introduce a plan for SPL 2 - which would include Rangers - and invite existing Division One members to join."

"Light Blues"? Since when do Rangers wear Light Blue?

Light Blue is the colour Man City wear - don't rangers wear Royal Blue?

Savage Tyrant · 13-07-2012 02:22PM

Hmmmmmmmmmm........

From STV

In response to the decision, newco Rangers stated they understand that Scottish Premier League chief executive Neil Doncaster and SFA chief executive Stewart Regan "will introduce a plan for SPL 2- which would include Rangers - and invite existing Division One members to join."

PauloMN · 13-07-2012 02:25PM

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

Hmmmmmmmmmm........

From STV

In response to the decision, newco Rangers stated they understand that Scottish Premier League chief executive Neil Doncaster and SFA chief executive Stewart Regan "will introduce a plan for SPL 2- which would include Rangers - and invite existing Division One members to join."

I guarantee they will try to get this running for 2013/14 season. It's too late to even contemplate it for 2012/13. They'll be in SPL2 for 2013/14 with the intention of them being in SPL for 2014/15.

It's their next "least worst" case scenario I suppose. Only 2 years for Sky to be without them rather than at least 3.

super_furry · 13-07-2012 02:26PM

So because the rules of the league have been upheld, the SPL are tearing up the rule book? Crooked, crooked, crooked.

What are the chances of those division one teams declining those invitations?

delos · 13-07-2012 02:31PM

PauloMN wrote: »

I guarantee they will try to get this running for 2013/14 season. It's too late to even contemplate it for 2012/13. They'll be in SPL2 for 2013/14 with the intention of them being in SPL for 2014/15.

It's their next "least worst" case scenario I suppose. Only 2 years for Sky to be without them rather than at least 3.

Surely the current SPL clubs could put a stop to this if they wanted to? Sporting integrity being all the rage just now.....

Helix · 13-07-2012 02:36PM

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

farce:

RANGERS STATEMENT ON CLUB WEBSITE
"Rangers' future remains uncertain after the Scottish Football League clubs voted against the Light Blues playing in the First Division next season.

"At a meeting at Hampden today, the 30 member clubs agreed to accept Rangers into the SFL but voted against the SFL board being allowed to broker a deal with the SPL and SFA over new structures and procedures which would also include Rangers playing in Division One.

"It is now understood that on the back of a briefing SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster and SFA counterpart Stewart Regan gave to clubs last week that the SPL will introduce a plan for SPL 2 - which would include Rangers - and invite existing Division One members to join."

absolute disgrace

Helix · 13-07-2012 02:37PM

if the other clubs in the SFL have any balls they'll point blank refuse to join the SPL 2

even then though, the league would probably still run with rangers playing nobody every week and being promoted as champions

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 13-07-2012 02:51PM

Helix wrote: »

absolute disgrace

Whats a disgrace Rangers are only informing their fans what Tweedledee and Tweedledum are up to.

smackbunnybaby · 13-07-2012 02:52PM

Trying to understand this fully...

So, we have the current SPL (1).
The SPL now create a second league, the SPL 2.
This comprises of all the teams they rob from SFL1 and Rangers.

The SFL is now left with SFL2 and SFL3 which will probably get renamed SFL1 and SFL2?

Or is it 2 big divisions of about 18 teams in each?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 13-07-2012 02:53PM

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

Trying to understand this fully...

So, we have the current SPL (1).
The SPL now create a second league, the SPL 2.
This comprises of all the teams they rob from SFL1 and Rangers.

The SFL is now left with SFL2 and SFL3 which will probably get renamed SFL1 and SFL2?

Or is it 2 big divisions of about 18 teams in each?

Something along those lines but I think it may be 16 teams each in SPL1/2

Helix · 13-07-2012 02:54PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Whats a disgrace Rangers are only informing their fans what Tweedledee and Tweedledum are up to.

yeah, and what they're up to is a disgrace

not sure how i couldve made that clearer

cruiserweight · 13-07-2012 02:55PM

What was the point of having a vote if this is true

brian mclauchlin ‏@BBCBMcLauchlin

Charles Green told meeting during q"n"a he was informed by SFA that membership of association would be granted only if vote was for div1

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 13-07-2012 02:55PM

Helix wrote: »

yeah, and what they're up to is a disgrace

not sure how i couldve made that clearer

Maybe by actually saying that

Helix · 13-07-2012 02:56PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Maybe by actually saying that

but that's exactly what i did say

seems you just wanted to see it as a dig against rangers, who ive got absolutely no beef whatsoever with

PauloMN · 13-07-2012 02:56PM

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

Trying to understand this fully...

So, we have the current SPL (1).
The SPL now create a second league, the SPL 2.
This comprises of all the teams they rob from SFL1 and Rangers.

The SFL is now left with SFL2 and SFL3 which will probably get renamed SFL1 and SFL2?

Or is it 2 big divisions of about 18 teams in each?

2 big divisions incorporating the existing SPL and SFL leagues as far as I know.

Not against the idea in principal, but trying to rush it through now is not the right approach.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 13-07-2012 02:57PM

Helix wrote: »

but that's exactly what i did say

seems you just wanted to see it as a dig against rangers, who ive got absolutely no beef whatsoever with

Sorry if I picked you up wrong but a lot of folk seem to think a lot of this is down to Rangers

PauloMN · 13-07-2012 03:01PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Sorry if I picked you up wrong but a lot of folk seem to think a lot of this is down to Rangers

Like who BBE? I don't think I saw anyone here saying that tbh.

I think that statement is ill-advised though to be honest, as it suggests that it's unclear where Sevco will play next season. Whatever about SPL2, I think it's now abundantly clear where Sevco will play in 2012/13 and that's Div 3.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 13-07-2012 03:09PM

PauloMN wrote: »

Like who BBE? I don't think I saw anyone here saying that tbh.

I think that statement is ill-advised though to be honest, as it suggests that it's unclear where Sevco will play next season. Whatever about SPL2, I think it's now abundantly clear where Sevco will play in 2012/13 and that's Div 3.

Thats the problem right there its not that clear where Rangers will play next season I hope along with the vast majority its division 3 but as I said Tweedledee and Tweedledum are going to try something

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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