Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

Beefy78 · 09-07-2012 12:22PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Its true because Neil Doncaster said it? Wow!

Sevco bought assets and intellectual property off Rangers (in administration), you are not the same club. You cannot actually call yourselves Rangers or anything like it whilst Rangers (in administration) still exists. The house of companies will reject any name change because Rangers still exists. Sevco isnt part of any league, it doesnt have SFA membership and your owner currently hasnt passed a fit and proper person test. You can convince yourself otherwise if it helps you sleep at night

It's the same club. Football fans will know it as the same club other than those trying to troll Rangers fans.

I find it desperately sad that any so called football supporter could hold a contrary view. You may support assets and intellectual property. You may support a Limited Company. Most of us support football clubs.

jack presley · 09-07-2012 12:24PM

cruiserweight wrote: »

STV have a list of clubs intentions for the vote on Friday, they are going to update it during the week. I wonder how many if any of the stated positions will change during the week

http://sport.stv.tv/football/108222-rangers-newco-vote-sfl-clubs-outline-their-positions-on-the-issue/

If no one changes their mind then, by my maths they need 12 out of the remaining 13 teams to vote for them to get over the 50%

Dempsey · 09-07-2012 12:27PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

It's the same club. Football fans will know it as the same club other than those trying to troll Rangers fans.

I find it desperately sad that any so called football supporter could hold a contrary view. You may support assets and intellectual property. You may support a Limited Company. Most of us support football clubs.

Its not the same club, Rangers still exists, its being lined up for liquidation

Beefy78 · 09-07-2012 12:46PM

Company number SC004276 is being lined up for liquidation. I've never seen a league table featuring 'The Rangers Football Club PLC' before.

I just don't get the joyous glee that this brings out in people. I support a club who have dodged half a dozen winding up orders in the last three years. I've been involved in fan days in support of other clubs suffering similar problems (almost always related to dodgy owners and/or non-payment of tax). It's ill-becoming of a fan base who appear to take pride in their reputation as being such great supporters to act in this way, IMO.

PauloMN · 09-07-2012 12:54PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

Company number SC004276 is being lined up for liquidation. I've never seen a league table featuring 'The Rangers Football Club PLC' before.

I just don't get the joyous glee that this brings out in people. I support a club who have dodged half a dozen winding up orders in the last three years. I've been involved in fan days in support of other clubs suffering similar problems (almost always related to dodgy owners and/or non-payment of tax). It's ill-becoming of a fan base who appear to take pride in their reputation as being such great supporters to act in this way, IMO.

Lol, and you refer to others as trolls?

Triggers Broom FC

Dempsey · 09-07-2012 01:21PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

Company number SC004276 is being lined up for liquidation. I've never seen a league table featuring 'The Rangers Football Club PLC' before.

I just don't get the joyous glee that this brings out in people. I support a club who have dodged half a dozen winding up orders in the last three years. I've been involved in fan days in support of other clubs suffering similar problems (almost always related to dodgy owners and/or non-payment of tax). It's ill-becoming of a fan base who appear to take pride in their reputation as being such great supporters to act in this way, IMO.

Rangers Football Club is being liquidated, another company is trying to pick up their fans for milking.

Dempsey · 09-07-2012 01:34PM

Phil MacGiollaBhain ‏@Pmacgiollabhain

Excellent source. Sevco Season Ticket sales. "Slightly over 600 sold so far".

Phil MacGiollaBhain ‏@Pmacgiollabhain

Same excellent Sevco source: "Lot's of people in here think that there won't be any football played next season."

Poor Sevco, the migration process isnt going too well.

Eirebear · 09-07-2012 02:11PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Poor Sevco, the migration process isnt going too well.

Another "Scoop" for Mr White i see.

Oh no...wait.....it was discussed over a week ago in numerous newspapers.

Of course there's no ST sales to speak of, no one is going to shell out hundreds of quid on something that may not exist.

premierstone · 09-07-2012 02:41PM

Eirebear wrote: »

Fair enough, that makes a little more sense.
Doesn't change my opinion on the piece itself though. Or the fact it's not listed as "opinion".

Edit - I disagree with is opinion in general - as i've stated before it stinks of someone who has never in his life met a Rangers supporter - much less understood their viewpoint.
He has formed an opinion based on his experience with Celtic fans, to write an article about Rangers.
That's why i feel the piece as a whole is flawed, and ignorant.

EB how do you know that Billy Keane has never in he's life met a Rangers supporter, thats a rather large assumption there would'nt you agree???

Eirebear · 09-07-2012 02:43PM

premierstone wrote: »

EB how do you know that Billy Keane has never in he's life met a Rangers supporter, thats a rather large assumption there would'nt you agree???

His uses his experience with Celtic fans, to have a go at Rangers.

What does that tell you?

EDIT: We see similar things on this forum all the time.
People travel from ireland, spend their time drinking in the dives along the Gallowgate and London Rd, hear the horror stories from the locals, come home terrified of the "Big Bad Hun".

premierstone · 09-07-2012 02:46PM

Eirebear wrote: »

His uses his experience with Celtic fans, to have a go at Rangers.

What does that tell you?

He reffered to an experience he had with Celtic fans, you are the one making the assumption that that experience was the sole basis for he's article.

Eirebear · 09-07-2012 02:55PM

premierstone wrote: »

He reffered to an experience he had with Celtic fans, you are the one making the assumption that that experience was the sole basis for he's article.

It's an assumption based on the fact he uses a massive total of zero first hand experiences in an article which slates the Rangers support.

If you want i can sit and break down the article for you, but i don't particularly want to patronise you by simply doing that.

09-07-2012 03:31PM

Jaysus, isn't it always the same? No matter what the subject is, inevitably it ends up being about the blue and green Forces of Effing Darkness talking about each other.

Ah, where would the rest of us wee clubs be without you? We're just soooooooooo lucky. :rolleyes:

PauloMN · 09-07-2012 03:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah, where would the rest of us wee clubs be without you?

Bit of a chip on your shoulder there?

citytillidie · 09-07-2012 03:45PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

It's the same club. Football fans will know it as the same club other than those trying to troll Rangers fans.

I find it desperately sad that any so called football supporter could hold a contrary view. You may support assets and intellectual property. You may support a Limited Company. Most of us support football clubs.

Derry had to change there crest when we rejoined the LOI 1st Division but then still keep the date of when the orgainl club is formed in 1928 on it

Eirebear · 09-07-2012 03:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Jaysus, isn't it always the same? No matter what the subject is, inevitably it ends up being about the blue and green Forces of Effing Darkness talking about each other.

Ah, where would the rest of us wee clubs be without you? We're just soooooooooo lucky. :rolleyes:

Ummm... the subject being an article regarding Rangers fans, in a thread about Rangers.

Yeah, it's rather unlikely we'd be talking about Rangers isnt it?

Jelle1880 · 09-07-2012 04:54PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Its not the same club, Rangers still exists, its being lined up for liquidation

The company, not the club.

On Follow Follow there's a nice thread about other British clubs who also changed companies.

Leeds, Charlton, Middlesbrough, Port Vale,...

All of them had to change the company behind the club at one point in time, yet they're all still the same clubs as before.

Dempsey · 09-07-2012 05:21PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The company, not the club.

On Follow Follow there's a nice thread about other British clubs who also changed companies.

Leeds, Charlton, Middlesbrough, Port Vale,...

All of them had to change the company behind the club at one point in time, yet they're all still the same clubs as before.

Its called pandering to the people. Juventus are claiming titles that they were stripped of for match fixing, I suppose they are right because they are claiming them! Sevco will tell you whatever you want to hear. Go ahead and buy your season books! :pac:

Coillte_Bhoy · 09-07-2012 06:47PM

Eirebear wrote: »

It's a viewpoint borne of ignorance.
Plain and simple.

Just because it was printed in Ireland doesn't make it ok - it's ignorant.

How is it borne of ignorance? You obv dont have a high opiinion of keane, do you read much of his work or know anything about him?

Eirebear · 09-07-2012 06:49PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

How is it borne of ignorance? You obv dont have a high opiinion of keane, do you read much of his work or know anything about him?

I don't know much of him - but the article speaks for itself.

How can you judge a whole swathe of the scotish population, write and article about them - yet the only first hand experience you include in that article comes in the form of people from outside that section?

Coillte_Bhoy · 09-07-2012 07:16PM

Eirebear wrote: »

I don't know much of him - but the article speaks for itself.

How can you judge a whole swathe of the scotish population, write and article about them - yet the only first hand experience you include in that article comes in the form of people from outside that section?

What a strange nonsensical thing to say. I have never been in Palestine or Israel. yet i regard myself as well informed on the situation in that region. Maybe i should spend time among both peoples before i can form a view? Nonsense, many Rangers fans regualrly show their nasty side to the world, you dont have to experience it first hand.

Eirebear · 09-07-2012 08:20PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Eirebear wrote: »

I don't know much of him - but the article speaks for itself.

How can you judge a whole swathe of the scotish population, write and article about them - yet the only first hand experience you include in that article comes in the form of people from outside that section?

What a strange nonsensical thing to say. I have never been in Palestine or Israel. yet i regard myself as well informed on the situation in that region. Maybe i should spend time among both peoples before i can form a view? Nonsense, many Rangers fans regualrly show their nasty side to the world, you dont have to experience it first hand.

So, by spending time among Palestinians, you would be qualified to write a well rounded article on Jews?
Sorry mate, but that's utter bull****.

09-07-2012 08:21PM

Eirebear wrote: »

Ummm... the subject being an article regarding Rangers fans, in a thread about Rangers.

Yeah, it's rather unlikely we'd be talking about Rangers isnt it?

But you're not talking about Rangers. You're talking about Celtic talking about Rangers. And they're talking about Rangers talking about Celtic talking about Rangers. And so on, round and round it goes, an extension of the co-dependency you've had together for decades.

09-07-2012 08:22PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Maybe i should spend time among both peoples before i can form a view?

It would help, actually.

Coillte_Bhoy · 09-07-2012 09:20PM

Eirebear wrote: »

So, by spending time among Palestinians, you would be qualified to write a well rounded article on Jews?
Sorry mate, but that's utter bull****.

Thats not what i meant at all and well you know it. I havent encountered many rangers fans but i have formed an opinion of the club and its fans. Is my opinion not valid because ive spend time drinking in the Gallowgate as opposed to The Louden or other such dumps?

PauloMN · 09-07-2012 09:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But you're not talking about Rangers. You're talking about Celtic talking about Rangers. And they're talking about Rangers talking about Celtic talking about Rangers. And so on, round and round it goes, an extension of the co-dependency you've had together for decades.

What's your point caller?

I think it's funny that the very people who bleat on about Celtic needing Rangers, and Rangers needing Celtic, might be the fans of clubs that need both Celtic and Rangers more than anything themselves! :pac:

Which "wee" club do you support as a matter of interest?

A Dub in Glasgo · 09-07-2012 10:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But you're not talking about Rangers. You're talking about Celtic talking about Rangers. And they're talking about Rangers talking about Celtic talking about Rangers. And so on, round and round it goes, an extension of the co-dependency you've had together for decades.

Actually you are wrong, Celtic fans are talking about the demise of Rangers FC and the creation of a new club who want to take on the history of the nearly deceased Rangers FC.

What are you actually talking about?

09-07-2012 11:06PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Actually you are wrong....

Of course I'm not wrong, don't be daft. The thread is about the demise (or whatever it turns out to be) of the current iteration of Rangers. But no matter what the subject is, the debate ends up being supporters of the two clubs talking about what matters most to them - each other.

Y'all need to get a room, IMO.

PauloMN wrote: »

I think it's funny that the very people who bleat on about Celtic needing Rangers, and Rangers needing Celtic, might be the fans of clubs that need both Celtic and Rangers more than anything themselves!

Most of us would cheerfully do without Rantic, TBH. Lose a few quid, lose a lot of hassle and annoyance. Sounds like potentially a good deal, if only it could happen.

PauloMN wrote: »

Which "wee" club do you support as a matter of interest?

The current Scottish cup holders, as it happens.

Dempsey · 10-07-2012 12:16AM

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4420369/In-your-dreams-team.html

Gazza wants to play for Sevco and there is apparently some middle eastern version of David Murray that wants to buy Rangers (in administration) and play in the English leagues.

I do think that there is a very high probability of BDO nullifying the deal D&P did with Green because the assets they sold were well below market value.

Sion seem to be in trouble for playing Kyle Lafferty before getting his ITC. Do they not understand rules in Sion!

bobmalooka · 10-07-2012 12:38AM

Dempsey wrote: »

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4420369/In-your-dreams-team.html

Gazza wants to play for Sevco and there is apparently some middle eastern version of David Murray that wants to buy Rangers (in administration) and play in the English leagues.

I do think that there is a very high probability of BDO nullifying the deal D&P did with Green because the assets they sold were well below market value.

Sion seem to be in trouble for playing Kyle Lafferty before getting his ITC. Do they not understand rules in Sion!

you know your goosed when gazza shows up :pac:

knew it wouldn't be long till more vultures showed up.

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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