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Son Of General Retro Discussion

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  • #9782
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,085 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    I get 3ds claw cramp from mario kart 7, so is it worse than that? That could be a breaker for me.

    Kid Icarus brings new meaning to "the claw". It's genuinely hurts to play for extended periods :pac: But I somehow taught myself to play it on the bus. Eventually. Still, it's not one for anyone with arthritis. It's an absolutely fantastic game though, once you get past that major hurdle.


  • #9783
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    *gargle* What was that? :pac:

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  • #9784
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,085 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Final Fantasy VII definitely coming to PC again. They've added a new feature (other than 'Cloud' saves, arf arf arf):
    Find yourself stuck on a difficult section or lacking the funds to buy that vital Phoenix Down? With the Character Booster you can increase your HP, MP and Gil levels to their maximum, all with the simple click of a button, leaving you to enjoy your adventure.

    Because what FFVII really needed was monetary microtransactions that completely unbalance the game.

    Here's to progress!


  • #9785
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Eh wtf, that sounds idiotic. Might as well just use cheats.

    You'd want to be crap not to be able to finish FF VII normally anyway!


  • #9786
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,085 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I can see plenty of people paying for that frickin' underwater materia, though.


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  • #9787
    a5y
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭a5y


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    I can see plenty of people paying for that frickin' underwater materia, though.

    I don't remember underwater being so hard to get.

    At least not compared to the amount of grind it takes to master Final Attack, Revive, and Knights of Go Make A Sandwich Because You're Sick of The Unskippable Cut Scene's Duration.

    And the needlessly unintuitive chocobo catching & breeding crap needed just to get to that one island.

    (WTF was I thinking playing that game? WT actual F?

    FF7 must be the only game I'm actually embarrassed to say I played and enjoyed. Its like saying "Thanks Dr. Milgram, I really had fun participating in that experiment in mindless unquestioning go-with-the-flow obedience today."

    If I was trolling I'd embed that troll cat gif I like in at the end, but the thing is, I'm not trolling.)


  • #9788
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    a5y, you're beginning to sound like Retr0 - I'd be very careful of that.

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  • #9789
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,085 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Iffy chocobo racing aside - who'd have thought they control like broken tanks when forced to race for the amusement of rabid punters? - I always thoroughly enjoyed the extended Chocobo quest. If you follow the (pretty clear!) instructions of that guy in the hut, it doesn't take that long at all. Never could warm to any of the chocobo subquests in the rest of the series as a result. Was it VIII or IX that had the Chocobo forests? They were nothing compared to the joy of finally hatching a black chocobo!

    It's been a while since I played, but I remember underwater materia being poorly signposted. Very easy to miss without a guide. Was there an NPC who told you about it? Again, been at least six or seven years since I've played it, so my memory of some things is a little hazy.

    What I do remember is how surprisingly funny the game is. Never realised you could actually get in to the brothel at the start until my third playthrough. Bizarre stuff. And the date with Barrett is a classic ;)


  • #9790
    OwaynOTT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,656 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    Kid Icarus brings new meaning to "the claw". It's genuinely hurts to play for extended periods :pac: But I somehow taught myself to play it on the bus. Eventually. Still, it's not one for anyone with arthritis. It's an absolutely fantastic game though, once you get past that major hurdle.

    Going end up with a 'strong hand' from playing the 3ds

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  • #9791
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,082 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Not sure the trainer is needed, it's not like FFVII is a tough game, it's a total breeze and really simplistic for a JRPG.

    Don't think there's any shame in enjoying FFVII. It's a great game and lots of fun just don't come telling me that the absolute nonsense plot was amazing or anything.

    Now saying you enjoyed the plot of Kingdom Hearts 2 and onwards, that's a different matter entirely.


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  • #9792
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Definitely reckon Kid Icarus is going to be a franchise Ninty will mine into the future, especially when a solid game producer like HAL are in there.
    I can see a WiiU sequel ahead, and it will rock.


    Won't cause "Claw Hand" either.


    The first game to inflict that was Metroid Prime: Hunters on the DS, and awkward frakker to play, painful too!

    Most painful, playing Ridge Racer Type 4 with a JogCon, absolute murder!

    I hear playing DC Rez with an unwashed Trance Pack "installed" is to be avoided as well....


  • #9793
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    just don't come telling me that the absolute nonsense plot was amazing or anything.

    Persona 4 -

    After the protagonist and his friends (accidentally) enter the TV world, they encounter Teddie, who helps them travel freely between the TV and real worlds.[24] They awaken their Persona abilities (the protagonist first, Yosuke second, Chie third, etc.), and, realizing that the murders stem from Shadow attacks in the TV world, are able to rescue several would-be victims.


  • #9794
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,082 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Well at least Persona 4's story is works well within it's own universe and deals with some really deep social issues.

    It also doesn't rely on any Deus Ex Machina like the worst of the anime tropes 'his force of will was so strong'.

    Sephiroths force of will was so strong it kept him alive despite being impaled.

    His force of will was so strong he was able to control a alien creature that specialises in planetcide.

    Then there's the 'Weapons', the only explanation for them is that Evangelion came out in 1995 and the writer watched way too much of it.

    It's a rollercoaster ride but when you look back at it, it was nonsense.

    If you want to argue with me then my only reply is 'this guy are sick'.


  • #9795
    Dr Bob
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    h0la! I built a working psu adaptor for the Commodore 1541 drive, hurray!

    , next I have to build a serial cable ( I have a few 6 pin din plugs spare)
    plus side , its free, downside , I feckin HATE soldering DIN plugs!
    right , I am now an expert at makin' c64 serial cables :)
    handy hint 1 : use network cable , its perfect
    handy hint 2 : when you pick up the 6 pin din plugs , buy a socket as well, its 2 quid , and when you're soldering to the pins, if you have the plug in the socket (clamped or in helping hands or whatever) , if the plug plastic heats up , and the pins move , the socket will keep them straight.
    handy hint 3: heat shrink cable is you friend , cover each pin connection as soon as you solder!

    Have my drive working now , and did a test copy with star commander , and had r-type running on the '64 within a few minutes.
    yeah I could buy an ultimate 1541 but I like doing it the hard way!


  • #9796
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I really don't care (as I would imagine most don't) about what social issues a game comments on - I just want it to be a good game with a good involving story.

    Persona 4 is a great game and I really did find the whole going into the TV aspect interesting and original, but really, come on...going into a TV world to stop murders from happening in the real world. It really is a load of wacky Japanese nonsense. :P

    FF VII's storyline is vague and open ended..but I generally like that in media rather than having everything wrapped up in a neat little package.

    Where's the Deus Ex Machina in FF VII by the way?


  • #9797
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,082 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    o1s1n wrote: »
    FF VII's storyline is vague and open ended..but I generally like that in media rather than having everything wrapped up in a neat little package.

    Where's the Deus Ex Machina in FF VII by the way?

    FFVII's story isn't vague and open ended at all, it's actually very simple. The only thing that is vague is the god awful localisation that makes it so hard to understand. Super soldier throws a tantrum when he finds his mother is an alien. Gets killed but stays alive due to the force of his will. Decides to use the force of his will to control his mother and get the black materia to create a wound in the earth so he can... become a god of planet with no life on it, great ambitions there.

    As for the deus ex machina, somebody using the 'force of their will' to control something that happens to be a few thousand miles away or keep himself alive is a deus ex machina in my books. There's plenty more there but that's the big one for me.

    Persona 4 may be a load of wacky japanese nonsense but there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's consistent within its own universe, something I feel FFVII doesn't do very well and instead relies on said deus ex machina.


  • #9798
    Steve X2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,920 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Some classic games done up in the style of traditional Japanese prints.


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    More:
    http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/07/01/your-favorite-nintendo-games-as-youve-never-seen-them-before-as-traditional-japanese-prints/


  • #9799
    a5y
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭a5y


    o1s1n wrote: »
    a5y, you're beginning to sound like Retr0 - I'd be very careful of that.

    Question: When has Retr0 admitted embarrassment, about anything, ever? I don't think I need to start being too careful just yet.
    o1s1n wrote: »
    Where's the Deus Ex Machina in FF VII by the way?

    I can think of a few examples:

    Clouds' escape from from the second reactor interrupted by several hundred feet of falling. He survives because he lands in a flowerbed, the only flowerbed in the entire city. Fortunately, even though the flowerbed is inside a church, he isn't killed by crash landing on the roof, as that has already collapsed... and without crushing the flowerbed under its beams. What.

    There's the Tarzan cable in Midgar that just about will swing them to safety when the plate is dropped. For a cable that long it sure wasn't carrying any power or any obvious function, other than leading to the edge of the carnage. No explanation as to why it exists, but its just as well it does because its precisely the only thing that can save 'em.

    Then there's that junon cannon. The weapon that happens to be just about "just about powerful enough" for the only targets it is ever fired at. Only in all cases none of those targets existed at the time of its construction.

    Evidently the cannon was designed by engineers with crystal balls or something similar. Also, when the management of the supposedly narrow-minded and ruthless corporation were told about their request for a its budget to combat giant monsters, forcefields and preventing the end of the world they thought it was entirely reasonable. Just as well they did though because the world couldn't be saved if they hadn't listened.

    Also arguably/kinda/sorta deus ex machina:
    • Cait Sith the second (where was the stand-in when his predecessor got KO'ed every time up 'til then?)
    • the rocket and the entire space program (you'd think having a space program might be worth mentioning in the Shin Ra <3 tech stuff at the start of disc 1)
    • giant materia (somehow conveniently overlooked by all the materia looters right up until the moment the plot says to race against time and get them.)
    Yeah. I'm embarrassed because when I was playing through the first time, I didn't call the plot on a single one of these things.


  • #9800
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Everytime I try to play FFVII, and I have it in my collection since the time it was a current game, I get hung up on the damn random battles and the linedancing that ensues...

    Does this make me a bad person?

    Pisses me off about DQVIII as well, sorry... :(


  • #9801
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Pisses me off about DQVIII as well, sorry...

    Dragon Quest V is my favourite in the series. Love that game.


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  • #9802
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,082 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Everytime I try to play FFVII, and I have it in my collection since the time it was a current game, I get hung up on the damn random battles and the linedancing that ensues...

    Does this make me a bad person?

    Pisses me off about DQVIII as well, sorry... :(

    Random battles really don't bother me if they are handled right. If the encounter rate is too high or/and normal battles take too long then they are a pain and can ruin a game, see the legendary Legend of Dragoon for an example. Never really found the random battles in the FF series that much of a drag although FFVII does have one of the most simplisitic and not very engaging battle systems in a long time.

    As for turn based battles, I think it adds a lot more strategy to the combat that real time combat will never match. You just have to look at how bad the combat is in bioware games is and compare that with something like Grandia.

    Dragon Quest VIII's only sin is that it starts off a bit simple but once you get into it and start getting a lot more abilities and companions it gets a lot more interesting. Also, monster collecting. As SMT and pokemon showed you can't beat a bit of monster collecting in your game!

    I really must give DQV a go. I just keep hearing how it's probably the best JRPG. I have to get through DQ9 though! No random battles in that game.


  • #9803
    Casey120
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    Sup with this book :

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    I see them on Ebay popping up for a tenner or so, is it any good ?


  • #9804
    valleyoftheunos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    Haven't read it but the Author is one of the main guys on Kotaku. knows his onions and has lived in Japan for yonks.


  • #9805
    Casey120
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Casey120


    Yeh , I recognized him from the soon to be released " 100 Yen " movie .

    I'm going to grab me a copy to warm me up for that movie !


  • #9806
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    I bought a copy of that book last year from Amazon, more or less the same price. It's really well written, if a little on the basic side.

    Each chapter in the book focuses on a different genre or different type of machine. You start off with crane games, then the vintage coin flicking games and all the way up to the future of the arcades.

    Needless to say, my favourite chapter is SHMUPS. :)

    Excellent book, definitely buy it.


  • #9807
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,085 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Just reading that the 3DS XL doesn't come with a charger :confused:

    Those guys in Nintendo are mad bastards sometimes.


  • #9808
    Pyongyang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    johnny_ultimate wrote: »
    Just reading that the 3DS XL doesn't come with a charger :confused:

    Those guys in Nintendo are mad bastards sometimes.

    It's like LG releasing a plasma tv with the plasma sold separately.


  • #9809
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,082 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I'm also wondering how the hell you charge it?


  • #9810
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Kinetic energy from the gyroscope?

    Just 5 hours of frantically running around for 5 minute play time.


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  • #9811
    valleyoftheunos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I'm also wondering how the hell you charge it?

    by buying an AC adapter seperately or you know, by using the ac adapter that came with the regular 3DS they reckon most 3DSXL purchasers already own.


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