Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

PauloMN · 27-06-2012 04:21PM

Ok, so this means he can sell the new club (effectively worthless without assets) on to another consortium/fan group etc., but the stadium and training ground will be with a separate company, and he'll rent them the facilities and still own them himself?

What a c**t! In effect, neither old Rangers, new Rangers, the fans or the creditors of the old club gain anything in this scenario, and Green gets everything.

Jelle1880 · 27-06-2012 04:29PM

PauloMN wrote: »

Ok, so this means he can sell the new club (effectively worthless without assets) on to another consortium/fan group etc., but the stadium and training ground will be with a separate company, and he'll rent them the facilities and still own them himself?

What a c**t! In effect, neither old Rangers, new Rangers, the fans or the creditors of the old club gain anything in this scenario, and Green gets everything.

That's the most likely scenario.

And the rumour is that Whyte still has a floating charge, so he'll get a share too no doubt.

I ****ing hope both of them see jail time soon.

Dempsey · 27-06-2012 04:36PM

Where did Whyte's floating charge come out of again? That something he threw in there before he bit the dust?

I thought the administration process would have unravelled the layers of bullshít for Rangers, its made it worse!

Jelle1880 · 27-06-2012 04:40PM

http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/108240-rangers-crisis-ibrox-and-murray-park-hived-off-to-separate-newco/

According to the title deeds lodge with the Registry of Scotland, the floating charge transferred to previous owner Craig Whyte is still outstanding over the Murray Park training ground in Auchenhowie Road, Milngavie.

Now, these records can take months to update, but I wouldn't put it past Whyte, Green and D&P.

Eirebear · 27-06-2012 04:45PM

When you take a step back and think about what's happened over the last 2 years, it really is completely gobsmacking.

Seriously, if anyone had dreamt up these events as a "conspiracy theory" a they would have been laughed at - yet it seems Lloyds, Murray, Whyte, D&P and Green have all been involved in ****ing the club, and it's fans over for their own gain.

Wether they are all seperate opportunists, or have actually worked together in some way or form i don't know - but i really can't dismiss anything at this stage.

lubo_moravcik · 27-06-2012 04:47PM

Originally Posted by Red_White_and_Ajax

we are now a football club without players , a league to play in , a stadium and a training ground

so to sum it up , we`re not a football club

Penny dropping?

lubo_moravcik · 27-06-2012 04:52PM

Eirebear wrote: »

When you take a step back and think about what's happened over the last 2 years, it really is completely gobsmacking.

Seriously, if anyone had dreamt up these events as a "conspiracy theory" a they would have been laughed at - yet it seems Lloyds, Murray, Whyte, D&P and Green have all been involved in ****ing the club, and it's fans over for their own gain.

Wether they are all seperate opportunists, or have actually worked together in some way or form i don't know - but i really can't dismiss anything at this stage.

Would this be on a par with rangers ****ing the rest of the spl teams over for years for their own gain?

Eirebear · 27-06-2012 04:55PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Would this be on a par with rangers ****ing the rest of the spl teams over for years for their own gain?

You'll see i included Murray in there.
You work it out.

Dempsey · 27-06-2012 04:55PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Would this be on a par with rangers ****ing Scottish Football over for years for their own gain?

FYP

lubo_moravcik · 27-06-2012 05:13PM

Dempsey wrote: »

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Would this be on a par with rangers ****ing Scottish Football over for years for their own gain?

FYP

What's that mean?
No really, I don't know what fyp is.

Dempsey · 27-06-2012 05:16PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

What's that mean?
No really, I don't know what fyp is.

Fixed Your Post

Read the post I quoted again

A Dub in Glasgo · 27-06-2012 06:00PM

Dempsey wrote: »

The loophole is killing his whole gameplan.

To be fair, it is not a loophole. It is the law

Dempsey · 27-06-2012 06:02PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

To be fair, it is not a loophole. It is the law

I should have put it "loophole" because thats what he keeps calling it.

He transferred the contracts without telling players hoping that the time to object would lapse. Despicable person.

slingerz · 27-06-2012 06:08PM

can i get a synopsis of wharts going on with rangers i.e what league will they be in, have they the same players etc? cant follow this at all

A Dub in Glasgo · 27-06-2012 06:17PM

slingerz wrote: »

can i get a synopsis of wharts going on with rangers i.e what league will they be in, have they the same players etc? cant follow this at all

Rangers are dead

A new company was set up to buy the assets, they are called Sevco something

A lot of senior players have walked away from the new company under the TUPE regulations

Sevco have not registered as a football club yet as they need a league to play in

The SPL clubs have said fcuk off (informally) to Sevco. Formal vote is next week

The SFL said they should apply for membership of the SFL by Friday if they are to apply at all

It is unknown if Sevco will try try to join Division 1 or the lowest division (3)

Raith Rovers and Falkirk have publically told Sevco to fcuk off trying to join Division 1

The SFA are looking into the possibility of changing the structure of Scottish football to a Premier Division and First Division

It is currently unknown if there will be any football played next season by the new club that Sevco register with the SFA once they find a league to join

TheBuilder · 27-06-2012 07:01PM

Estimated 10,000 at the protest

Jelle1880 · 27-06-2012 07:02PM

Yep, and Brown really tore into Green, suggesting there's other people involved (Whyte obviously).

A Dub in Glasgo · 27-06-2012 07:28PM

TheBuilder wrote: »

Estimated 10,000 at the protest

Estimated by a blind man you mean

celt262 · 27-06-2012 07:29PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Yep, and Brown really tore into Green, suggesting there's other people involved (Whyte obviously).

Is yellow involved in this atall?

Sorry i couldnt resist

A Dub in Glasgo · 27-06-2012 07:30PM

No but Orange is

Jelle1880 · 27-06-2012 07:40PM

A picture taken when people are clearly leaving, wow.
10.000 will be a bit much, probably half that.

A Dub in Glasgo · 27-06-2012 07:48PM

Here's one at the height of the protest

Jelle1880 · 27-06-2012 07:56PM

Wasn't that the mob who were celebrating your title win at Ibrox ?

Savage Tyrant · 27-06-2012 07:57PM

Fair play to those that did show up... Irrespective of numbers, the ones that showed are proper fans, looking to save their club (or the new version of it) from the jaws of extinction.

Though I hate the club (1.0 & 2.0)... I feel for the fans.

chughes · 27-06-2012 08:06PM

I'm not an expert on Scottish football but I'm shocked at the clubs objecting to Rangers being allowed to play in the SPL or even First Division.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but Celtic and Rangers are by far the biggest supported clubs in Scotland and this is surely beneficial to the other clubs in terms of gate receipts etc.

Are Rangers so disliked that the clubs would be happy to see them gone altogether?

I wonder if Celtic were in the same predicament as Rangers would the other clubs want them out as well?

Dempsey · 27-06-2012 08:11PM

chughes wrote: »

I'm not an expert on Scottish football but I'm shocked at the clubs objecting to Rangers being allowed to play in the SPL or even First Division.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but Celtic and Rangers are by far the biggest supported clubs in Scotland and this is surely beneficial to the other clubs in terms of gate receipts etc.

Are Rangers so disliked that the clubs would be happy to see them gone altogether?

I wonder if Celtic were in the same predicament as Rangers would the other clubs want them out as well?

Surely sporting integrity cannot/should not be bought?

chughes · 27-06-2012 08:18PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Surely sporting integrity cannot/should not be bought?

I understand where you are coming from, Dempsey, but I feel the team and supporters are being punished for activities outside of their control.

If Rangers are gone the SPL will be dominated by one club, Celtic, and that can't be good for Celtic either.

Dempsey · 27-06-2012 08:22PM

chughes wrote: »

I understand where you are coming from, Dempsey, but I feel the team and supporters are being punished for activities outside of their control.

If Rangers are gone the SPL will be dominated by one club, Celtic, and that can't be good for Celtic either.

Waffle tbh, do you even know what Rangers fans want? They want Div3

Rangers is being liquidated, nothing is going to change that. The rules for a new club are clear.

A Dub in Glasgo · 27-06-2012 08:38PM

chughes wrote: »

I'm not an expert on Scottish football but I'm shocked at the clubs objecting to Rangers being allowed to play in the SPL or even First Division.

Only a non expert on Scottish football would be shocked

PauloMN · 27-06-2012 09:09PM

chughes wrote: »

I understand where you are coming from, Dempsey, but I feel the team and supporters are being punished for activities outside of their control.

If Rangers are gone the SPL will be dominated by one club, Celtic, and that can't be good for Celtic either.

So what do you suggest, put the new club straight into the SPL? :eek:

What will happen then? Every football club will build up a pile of debt, liquidate, pay nobody back (incl. the taxpayers btw) and start afresh. Why owe people money when you can wind up, start a new club and walk straight back into the slot that you left the old club in? Why should lower league teams suffer because you've decided the integrity of the league goes out the window?

Seriously, think about it. To even suggest that a new club be allowed walk into the SPL (or Div 1 for that matter) is simply ridiculous.

Of course it's not the fans fault, and not the players fault (for the most part). That doesn't mean that punishments should not be given.

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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