Son Of General Retro Discussion

Retr0gamer · 22-06-2012 12:54PM

Honestly I don't need a second stick on the 3DS. The PSP proved that first and third person games aren't really suited to a handheld experience and this had nothing to do with the controls. If I want to play an action game like Gears of War or Call of Duty I'll play them at home. I'd much rather something like Dragon Quest, Layton, Touch Detective, Loco Roco or Ouendan when I'm on the move. What games currently really need the second stick on the 3DS? Resi maybe and monster hunter clones which I can live without. The DS was probably my favourite console ever and never did I think it needed dual analogue controls. The PSP on the other hand came into it's own when it moved away from traditional console games and concentrated on games suited to the handheld experience, again this has nothing to do with controls before some one chimes in about it.

SdoowSirhc · 22-06-2012 01:03PM

Exactly! Most games on the 3DS have no need for it. Action or adventure games with nice big levels or worlds might benefit from camera control. I know people are sick of these remakes but Super Mario 64 should be re-re-released on the eShop with a 3D touch up :rolleyes: that would benefit from camera control with a second circle

Pyongyang · 22-06-2012 01:35PM

Best price so far is at Shopto. I wonder if Amazon will have a good price and any bundles...?

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy · 22-06-2012 01:39PM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Screw the 3DSXXXL, did no-one else hear that Namco-Bandai are developing the new Smash Bros. :eek:

I was hoping to say that first lol, I slept in. IGN had it on twitter last night

Myrddin · 22-06-2012 02:02PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Honestly I don't need a second stick on the 3DS. The PSP proved that first and third person games aren't really suited to a handheld experience and this had nothing to do with the controls. If I want to play an action game like Gears of War or Call of Duty I'll play them at home. I'd much rather something like Dragon Quest, Layton, Touch Detective, Loco Roco or Ouendan when I'm on the move. What games currently really need the second stick on the 3DS? Resi maybe and monster hunter clones which I can live without. The DS was probably my favourite console ever and never did I think it needed dual analogue controls. The PSP on the other hand came into it's own when it moved away from traditional console games and concentrated on games suited to the handheld experience, again this has nothing to do with controls before some one chimes in about it.

All true, but why restrict what the handheld can offer now? Especially as there are games that do use the dual stick. How much better is RE with the twin sticks?

I'm not saying the 3DS needs two sticks, but its certainly an avenue worth keeping open. Now we're back to more abomination ad ons if needed

o1s1n · 22-06-2012 02:10PM

Now that I think about it, RE Revelations is the only game I've really used the twin sticks for. Got rid of MGS 3 as I wasn't enjoying it at all.

Still, rather have it there than not.

Plus if you think about it, if you only had that XL version, the add on with the second stick won't fit it.

Unless they make yet another add on for that one too, but I seriously doubt it.

Retr0gamer · 22-06-2012 02:13PM

Sure, it's worth having there than not but I won't miss it. I actually think that the DS was better off without it, it meant that comapnies couldn't shovel a port of a PS2 game on to the machine like on the PSP and meant that there was a shift to more original content.

Myrddin · 22-06-2012 02:13PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Still, rather have it there than not.

Exactly. There's no reason not to have it, especially on the XL version it should be integrated. Now everyone that has the first stick addon will have to purchase another one if they go for an XL

Retr0gamer · 22-06-2012 02:14PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Plus if you think about it, if you only had that XL version, the add on with the second stick won't fit it.

Unless they make yet another add on for that one too, but I seriously doubt it.

There's an Xibit meme to be made there.

Myrddin · 22-06-2012 02:15PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Sure, it's worth having there than not but I won't miss it. I actually think that the DS was better off without it, it meant that comapnies couldn't shovel a port of a PS2 game on to the machine like on the PSP and meant that there was a shift to more original content.

Yeah true, but they just found other shovelware to fill that gap. The DS is loaded with brilliance, but it's not without its fair share of tripe either

I just think it was mad to restrict the XL to one stick, even if a 2nd one never got used, at least it was there if needed. It's addon city now again

o1s1n · 22-06-2012 02:20PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

There's an Xibit meme to be made there.

'We know you like console add ons - so we've left an add on off a revision so you can add on to your original while you add on to your revision!'

Or something. Now my brain hurts.

Retr0gamer · 22-06-2012 02:20PM

It's a pisser but nintendo know what they are doing. Only the more enthusiastic gamers will buy the frankenstick and it will only be used by games like Resi or MGS3 that appeal to these people. And as a part of that group I know I'm gullible enough to buy it. The vast majority of the 3DS's market will be happy to buy the usual games that sold well on the DS, the ones that didn't need a second stick like mario, layton etc.

So Nintendo save money on each 3DS sold and make a bit extra on us gullible chumps.

Retr0gamer · 22-06-2012 02:25PM

I'm sure that everyone will be talking about how Nintendo has totally messed up with 3DS by not add the second stick. I'll be off to paddy power to put money on the 3DS totally trouncing the Vita in terms of sales and a nice sales spike when the XL launches.

johnny_ultimate · 22-06-2012 02:27PM

I think the Kid Icarus control scheme is charming once you adjust to its inherent ludicrousness, but I still think a proper dual stick mode would have been a nice addition.

DinoRex · 22-06-2012 02:33PM

This looks like it could be great:

From Bedrooms to Billions
A documentary feature film telling the story of the UK Video Games Industry from 1979 to 1996.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/78873

Retr0gamer · 22-06-2012 03:02PM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I think the Kid Icarus control scheme is charming once you adjust to its inherent ludicrousness, but I still think a proper dual stick mode would have been a nice addition.

That would mean Nintendo admitting they were wrong, like that will ever happen.

Pyongyang · 22-06-2012 03:39PM

DinoRex wrote: »

This looks like it could be great:

From Bedrooms to Billions
A documentary feature film telling the story of the UK Video Games Industry from 1979 to 1996.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/78873

They shot some footage with Jaz Rignall the other day. Looks good. I donated to the 100 Yen film (look out for me in the credits!) but not this one, yet.

megaten · 22-06-2012 03:39PM

I'm fine without the second stick. Having no second stick for camera control is a sacrifice I'm willing to make if it means a system that isn't flooded with first person shooters.

Steve X2 · 22-06-2012 03:56PM

Why of feckin why wont the RAGE answer questions on prices without having to go in to the bloody shop.
It's actually really annoying :mad:

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Retr0gamer · 22-06-2012 04:01PM

It's to avoid the loss of ale through expulsion due to shock:

Steve X2 · 22-06-2012 04:03PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It's to avoid the loss of ale through expulsion due to shock:

When and if I ever have my retro store I promise it will be easier than this to get prices guys.
You can call me on that when/if it ever happens.

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SdoowSirhc · 22-06-2012 05:05PM

I'm cringing thinking about the new ad campaign from Nintendo for the LL

Hopefully more celebrity endorsement!! The Zelda ad made me want to buy Ocarina even more but I still haven't found it for under €30

Doge · 22-06-2012 06:16PM

Pyongyang wrote: »

(look out for me in the credits!)

Couldn't find a clip but....

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy · 22-06-2012 06:26PM

Steve X2 · 22-06-2012 06:37PM

Evil never dies, it just moves to another console under another name.
Warning, music is crappy and loud when it starts up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELm2FhqpOhU

It actually plays better than ROTR but is still a crapfest.

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DinoRex · 22-06-2012 08:04PM

Neat. Someone went around New York taking photos of the locations from the Blackwell games.

http://blackwelldiaries.tumblr.com/

Retr0gamer · 22-06-2012 08:24PM

DinoRex wrote: »

Neat. Someone went around New York taking photos of the locations from the Blackwell games.

http://blackwelldiaries.tumblr.com/

I was only there a few days ago. It's taken from the Highline (well worth a visit). I was actually thinking to myself it would make a great photo if I had a camera in that exact spot.

Augmerson · 22-06-2012 08:48PM

Steve SI wrote: »

Why of feckin why wont the RAGE answer questions on prices without having to go in to the bloody shop.
It's actually really annoying :mad:

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I still pop in now and again, but there is nothing really interesting, and what is there is too expensive I feel now. They've upped their prices. Do any of ye still go in there?

Mr.Saturn · 22-06-2012 09:04PM

Augmerson wrote: »

I still pop in now and again, but there is nothing really interesting, and what is there is too expensive I feel now. They've upped their prices. Do any of ye still go in there?

I did, actually bought something as well. I've noticed their prices are ever-slowly moving towards Gamexhange on Talbot St sort-of prices. I paid 15e for KoF Neowave, Gamexchange charge around 19e for KoF titles. Somewhat depressing we're essentially back at square one in regards to retro-gaming in Dublin, the nearest brick & mortor is slowly outpricing its target-market. I know there's defenses in terms of survival, good-business et al, but still......

I miss 3D games a little. They hadn't a clue what they had 90 percent of the time. So you'd be charged 40e for something common as SF Collection 2 on PS1, then turn around and nab Paper Mario (GCN) for next to nothing.

megaten · 22-06-2012 09:25PM

Augmerson wrote: »

I still pop in now and again, but there is nothing really interesting, and what is there is too expensive I feel now. They've upped their prices. Do any of ye still go in there?

I pop in now and again but rarely buy anything. I got a sting rpg called Evolution on the dreamcast for a fiver a few months ago but it's fairly crap.

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