South County GC Closed

chuckieamc wrote: »

I'm in. I gather from comments on here that there is a committee meeting tomorrow night?
In some potentially heartening news, I heard that concra wood in Monaghan closed last week for a similar issue and was open a few days later under new management.
Though the moving out of equipment is worrying....

Well i think ALL MEMBERS should turn up for the committee meeting so.

Has it been confirmed equipment is being moved? I suppose you would have to given you don't know who will be snooping around the club at the moment.

Looks like great news for the moment, anyone have info on how this is gonna work ?

just got an email from the landlords to say they have taken possesion of the premises and are going to run the club as normal for the present...no bar facilities but raymie's shop will be open...

Sad to see the workers there losing their jobs and also to the members who have supported the operation thru thick and thin. Hopefully they can get the course machinery back on site asap.
On a side note, I wonder if the new N81 route through part of the course has any bearing on recent events. Seen some new road works at Hazel Grove today.

scubapro wrote: »

Rumers smumers, new roads, pay and play, what next- drilling for oil, the rumers and inuendo does no one any good, Im just pleased that the course is open for the moment, I am sure over the next few days all will become clear and fingers crossed the great track that we all love will stay open

HERE HERE!

Discussing this with a fellow member. The only way for the club to recover from this will be affiliation membership. How could you trust them with your subs again. If the new management came from another club and offered 5 day membership at another club then you have that to fall back on.

Im probably thinking a bit to far ahead as we need to get the doors securely open again but i really want SCGC to recover from this big time. In the short time since the news 'you miss it once its gone' has never been so apt.

scubapro wrote: »

Rumers smumers, new roads, pay and play, what next- drilling for oil, the rumers and inuendo does no one any good, Im just pleased that the course is open for the moment, I am sure over the next few days all will become clear and fingers crossed the great track that we all love will stay open

I personally hate the rumour mill talk, but the road issue is not a rumour ..

http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/NationalRoadsDesignOffice/N81RIS/Phase2-RouteSelectionStage2010-2011/Stage2RouteCorridorOptionsJuly2011/Stage2RouteCorridorOptionsDrawings110000A1/

Also checked ( on the sdcc site ) the N81 works at Hazel Grove are a water improvement scheme.
Although the situation at South Cty is not good, there is too much invested in it to let the fairways grow over.

chuckieamc wrote: »

I'm in. I gather from comments on here that there is a committee meeting tomorrow night?
In some potentially heartening news, I heard that concra wood in Monaghan closed last week for a similar issue and was open a few days later under new management.
Though the moving out of equipment is worrying....

Concra Wood closed? Are you sure? What happened to original members shares? I know a few people up there

Will be interesting to see what the bank funding was secured on. Might be difficult to use the course if its owned by the bank. Either way the course may be pay as you play rather than a club. As a landlord why bother with the hassle of setting up a club when you can just run it on a day to day basis

k.p.h wrote: »

ForeRight wrote: »

Although I welcome this news this evening I can't see the club recovering from the events of today. The actions and behaviour of these amateur board members have destroyed a fantastic club and golfing facility for good IMO.

Jesus .. That's a bit premature, the people who have as the landlords said abandoned the place are gone ... Obviously it was bad form but whoever you will be dealing with at SC in the future one things for sure it won't be them .. You should not judge the golf course/club in future by what these cowboys have done.

Actually if you read into the correspondence scubapro got, it looks like the landlords are intent on keeping the place going. With a bit of luck the landlords will manage the place themselves. This would be a far better scenario and with the numbers reported to be there looks like the club under new ownership could be relatively healthy pretty fast.

If anything the landowners and membership should be sticking together and weathering the storm and departure of these clowns, looks like the makings of a great club if everyone gets involved.

It is a great club and I love the course but the whole thing is a complete mess now and will be fir a long while.

The land owners are now looking after the club which is open for play. Does that mean it's just a field with holes in it that we can play on or is it still a golf "club" affiliated with the GUI? I don't know the answers.
Will we have official comps, opens, GUI membership?

I know the board members have made a complete mess of this but realistically behind the scenes the club just must not be sustaining itself or coming even close to.

I was told the accounts make pretty poor reading from last few months but the medium term "projections" were good so they kept going until today they pulled the plug. We all know projections are not worth the paper they are printed on.

With lads now cancelling debits for their subs how can the club operate at the same level as before?

What other club or company would take on such a dangerous business?

Rangers FC of the golf world

I see it got a chunk of cash from Kingspan to sponsor the Eurpro tournament later this year. No guesses where that money has gone;)

tonyka wrote: »

it looks to me like the shareholder members have been shafted to the benefit of the landlords.. who seem to believe they have a clause in the lease agreement which gives them total control of a very valueable and commercially viable asset with almost full membership and a fully developed course {built with share/members money and loans}
a perfect coup de tat

Well there is a new and interesting spin.