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Hard to take this craic anymore... Recruiters!!

  • 02-05-2012 11:57AM
    #1
    Who Knows?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭


    Hi,

    It hard to take this job searching craic any more. CV's and cover letters piling up on recruiters hard-drives as they run a program to search your CV for compatibility in various jobs. Tis frustrating.

    Are applications ranked/scored or what's the story? Do recruiters (i.e agencies) even read a CV? Seems odd. :confused:

    Any of you have any insights on their practice? How are applications really matched?
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  • #2
    thecommietommy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭thecommietommy


    Who Knows? wrote: »
    Hi,

    It hard to take this job searching craic any more. CV's and cover letters piling up on recruiters hard-drives as they run a program to search your CV for compatibility in various jobs. Tis frustrating.

    Are applications ranked/scored or what's the story? Do recruiters (i.e agencies) even read a CV? Seems odd. :confused:

    Any of you have any insights on their practice? How are applications really matched?
    I'd say with jobs so scarce I'd say good old fashioned cronyism would come into the ' recruitment ' process :mad: Helps if a family member is in the agency/HR/Fine Gael/Fianna Fail/Labour etc


  • #3
    bootybouncer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 495 ✭✭bootybouncer


    Ive a pain in my hoop too dude................ nothing but rejections from foreign nationals in hr depts....................ive been onto the equality authorities


  • #4
    Spunk84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Spunk84


    bootybouncer wrote: »
    Ive a pain in my hoop too dude................ nothing but rejections from foreign nationals in hr depts....................ive been onto the equality authorities
    It's great getting a call from some in HR who hasn't got a clue how to speak English let alone pronounce your name


  • #5
    allibastor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    Spunk84 wrote: »
    It's great getting a call from some in HR who hasn't got a clue how to speak English let alone pronounce your name

    had 2 jobs that the HR monkeys rang about that have since seemed to disappear. its a mare when they ring you about some job all full of beans, and then you hear nothing for weeks.


  • #6
    Magenta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Magenta


    bootybouncer wrote: »
    Ive a pain in my hoop too dude................ nothing but rejections from foreign nationals in hr depts....................ive been onto the equality authorities
    Spunk84 wrote: »
    It's great getting a call from some in HR who hasn't got a clue how to speak English let alone pronounce your name

    Maybe these companies are not interested in hiring racists.


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  • #7
    RATM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    OP have you had your CV read over by a few people who know what a good CV should look like, perhaps that is your problem ?


  • #8
    bootybouncer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 495 ✭✭bootybouncer


    Magenta wrote: »
    Maybe these companies are not interested in hiring racists.

    Bit of equality ya beagle...............................


  • #9
    Spunk84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Spunk84


    Magenta wrote: »
    bootybouncer wrote: »
    Ive a pain in my hoop too dude................ nothing but rejections from foreign nationals in hr depts....................ive been onto the equality authorities
    Spunk84 wrote: »
    It's great getting a call from some in HR who hasn't got a clue how to speak English let alone pronounce your name

    Maybe these companies are not interested in hiring racists.
    Aaaaaa were am I racist? Because I want someone who can speak English lol I think Ur Abit racist for people who speak English


  • #10
    bootybouncer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 495 ✭✭bootybouncer


    Spunk84 wrote: »
    Aaaaaa were am I racist? Because I want someone who can speak English lol I think Ur Abit racist for people who speak English


    well said spunk........................come the hour when companies actually decide to start employing irish lads and lassies first with the correct skills and experiences of course

    think ill apply for this job in Canada (sausage maker fas website) and oul pavel and half off eastern Europe can have those new jobs in SAP

    Meahwhile in Utopia :rolleyes:.........................


  • #11
    CerebralCortex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭CerebralCortex


    Should have done comp sci/eng in uni. Since I made my CV public again on monster I'v had 6 calls in the last week.


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  • #12
    Fatscally
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭Fatscally


    I have an unbreakable rule in job hunting "Don't deal with recruitment agencies". They are the ****e of the ****e. Some muppet with a handful of buzzwords that knows nothing about your work judges you on weather or not you should be put forward for the position. I actually think they should be banned. It is nothing more than a blag on employers to the detrement of the coerced employee.

    I use Fas.ie 90% when I need to and jobs.ie (employers only search). Anything that looks like an agency I skip over.

    Man they annoy me!


  • #13
    omahaid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    CerebralCortex wrote: »
    Should have done comp sci/eng in uni. Since I made my CV public again on monster I'v had 6 calls in the last week.

    Well aren't you great ;)

    Calls from recruiters don't mean much to me, either they don't understand the role, or your CV or are looking for you to move to another planet for the job. I got a call from a recruiter (who has my CV btw) asking me if I would be interested in the job I left last year :rolleyes:


  • #14
    CerebralCortex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭CerebralCortex


    omahaid wrote: »
    Well aren't you great ;)

    Calls from recruiters don't mean much to me, either they don't understand the role, or your CV or are looking for you to move to another planet for the job. I got a call from a recruiter (who has my CV btw) asking me if I would be interested in the job I left last year :rolleyes:

    Indeed, some of the conversations are annoying but there are jobs fin IT.


  • #15
    shootermacg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    I'm happy getting mails from the agencies, I'm currently working but it's nice that there are people out there who get commissions to find work for you.

    But you have to be realistic it's the employer's responsibility to fill in the role requirements. My first job in software development came from an agency.


  • #16
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,835 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Enough of the personal insults and race-based comments: civilized behaviour is required in this forum.

    And no the text-speak, either.


    /moderation


  • #17
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,835 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    bootybouncer wrote: »
    nothing but rejections from foreign nationals in hr depts

    Odd, I've not met many foreign national working in HR. Except for the multi-national where I work, which has off-shored the entire HR function to a lower-cost-geography.

    But that's getting off topic, the OP asked about recruiters, not HR, and not about their race or English-skills.


    OP, here's the deal: recruiters aren't looking for a job for you. They are looking for candidates to fill vacancies for employers. So yes, the CVs do pile up in their databases, and yes they do key-word searches for terms that hiring managers have said they are looking for. There probably are scoring systems. No, they don't always read CVs. And yes, they lose no sleep over lying to you about things, being hard to contact, etc: really they are sales-people, and putting on the spin is part of the game.

    That said, I recall an interview 4 years ago where I was very tempted to say to the hiring manager and in-house HR person "thanks for your time, but this is a total waste of mine, did you even bother to read my CV". No agencies involved.


  • #18
    allibastor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    omahaid wrote: »
    Well aren't you great ;)

    Calls from recruiters don't mean much to me, either they don't understand the role, or your CV or are looking for you to move to another planet for the job. I got a call from a recruiter (who has my CV btw) asking me if I would be interested in the job I left last year :rolleyes:

    Yeah recruiters are a bit rubbish. i had a call from one for a job i applied for. the job is over a month old, already filled and i got to the third round of interview.

    the recruiter rang me to say my CV didnt look good enough to send on and would i do it up again. needless to say i thought it was good to tell her the job was filled 2 weeks ago. she was shocked to say the least. hahhaha


  • #19
    Fussy Eater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Fussy Eater


    I've always used recruiters in the past and exclusively so but I'm new to Ireland and job searching here and have found them to be useless to deal with. I decided to stop applying through them and instead deal directly with the company and by doing that I got a job almost instantly. Unfortunately a lot of companies when looking to fill a position now outsource the job to recruiters and yes, it's extremely frustrating.


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