Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

fionnsda · 18-02-2012 10:11AM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

I'd imagine creditors who are owed thousands of pounds would care as it would mean less money for them.

Cousin deal made no sense unless his playing for Rangers (In Administration) cost Rangers (In Administration) nothing.

Maybe ....because he signed the contract before rangers went into administration, which we know, they have to honour the contract, so he gets paid anyway, whether he plays or not.

bobbysands81 · 18-02-2012 11:08AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

When have I got into a discussion about Politics? Bar telling ye that it has nothing to do with Rangers administration..

You seem to be unable to distinguish between the two at this stage.

You keep on trying to bring the conversation back to politics whilst the rest of us are trying to stay on topic.

Then you throw a barbed comment like the one above. You're only here to stir sh1t, what's the point mate, why bother?

bobbysands81 · 18-02-2012 11:11AM

fionnsda wrote: »

Maybe ....because he signed the contract before rangers went into administration, which we know, they have to honour the contract, so he gets paid anyway, whether he plays or not.

Very good point. If the contract was signed before admin then they would have to honour it... though he would struggle to get paid the full amount.

Still find it odd though, that if he signed the contract, that the administrator would need to sign off on it again.

The_Kew_Tour · 18-02-2012 11:40AM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

You keep on trying to bring the conversation back to politics whilst the rest of us are trying to stay on topic.

Then you throw a barbed comment like the one above. You're only here to stir sh1t, what's the point mate, why bother?

The worst thing about this post is that is actually what you believe.

I despise anything outside of football been brought up in conversation.

You would want to look at yourself if you think that it's somehow me that brings up things other then football.

A Fail if ever there was one

fionnsda · 18-02-2012 01:03PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Very good point. If the contract was signed before admin then they would have to honour it... though he would struggle to get paid the full amount.

Still find it odd though, that if he signed the contract, that the administrator would need to sign off on it again.

I think the upshot of this is ...rangers thought they could get him signed and registered before they went into administration but because HMRC pushed it through sooner, they are left with a signed player but not registered.

If they are paying him thats 30k closer to liquidation, which is no biggy, what with their debts, bills etc

edit 60k closer

bobbysands81 · 18-02-2012 01:31PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

The worst thing about this post is that is actually what you believe.

I despise anything outside of football been brought up in conversation.

You would want to look at yourself if you think that it's somehow me that brings up things other then football.

A Fail if ever there was one

You're the one in the "Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration" who keeps on asking questions about the Hunger Strikers!

A Dub in Glasgo · 18-02-2012 01:34PM

Anyone remember this from 10 years ago?

Rangers Chairman David Murray dealt a decisive blow for Airdrieonians in 2002 when he demanded money owed to him by the club and was unsympathetic towards their cause.

Murray was quoted as saying: “I apologise to Airdrie’s supporters but something had to be done about this debt. Business is business and Carnegie Sports also have wages to pay,” bluntly refusing to help the debt-stricken club.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/hamilton/297958-footballs-financial-problems-in-lanarkshire/

Mr Murray said: "I feel very sorry for Airdrie and their supporters but we're running a business. We have given them repeated warnings and felt they were playing on our good nature.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/628268.stm

Now Rangers are expecting the taxpayer to bail them out

ColeTrain · 18-02-2012 01:45PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

You're only here to stir sh1t, what's the point mate, why bother?

^This

The_Kew_Tour · 18-02-2012 02:07PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

You're the one in the "Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration" who keeps on asking questions about the Hunger Strikers!

You seem to be unable to understand some simple English phrases.

Just have to disagree then.

Coillte_Bhoy · 18-02-2012 05:14PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Well that is the majority of the Rangers support. Pro Union, Pro Rangers. Some people need to get over that.

Majority are 'bigoted'? Fair play, at least you've admitted it.

Jelle1880 · 18-02-2012 05:26PM

bobmalooka wrote: »

Why's that? 1989 was the year Rangers signed their first openly Catholic player.

An amazingly low amount of Catholics have played for Rangers since the clubs inception.

Is this reflective of an open non discriminatory signing policy?

No it's ****ing wasn't.
We all know how you feel about Rangers, no need to use lies to show your hatred (because that it, isn't it ? It's not a dislike, it''s hatred from your part).

willmunny1990 · 18-02-2012 06:34PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Majority are 'bigoted'? Fair play, at least you've admitted it.

Was that anything new though?

Rangers are a horrible club full of bigots and this has always been the case.

No matter what happens Rangers as a force are done.

Whether they decide to downsize significantly or wind up, its all the one to us as they are finished either way and it can only be a good thing for football IMO.

They basically cheated their way to title victories and everything about them stinks of corruption and hatred. In the end it is best for football that this despicable club is done, i do feel sorry for the few genuine fans but they are in the minority when it come to fans with this heinous club.

The_Kew_Tour · 18-02-2012 06:37PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

In the end it is best for football that this despicable club is done, i do feel sorry for the few genuine fans but they are in the minority when it come to fans with this heinous club.

From the fans I have met I would disagree with this comment strongly.:(

fionnsda · 18-02-2012 06:41PM

The big house must stay open
Thats the bottom line!

The big house must stay open
Thats the bottom line!

bobmalooka · 18-02-2012 06:44PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

No it's ****ing wasn't.
We all know how you feel about Rangers, no need to use lies to show your hatred (because that it, isn't it ? It's not a dislike, it''s hatred from your part).

Correct I absolutely hate Rangers because of their discriminatory past. Denying that Rangers signing policy was immoral speaks volumes about you.

Back on topic for a change does anyone know what new info came to light last night that the administrators will be announcing next week?

It was mentioned briefly on SSN.

Jelle1880 · 18-02-2012 06:44PM

I wonder which of you will come back crying that the big bad Rangers fans got him banned.

If you think we're so horrible, **** off.

edit:
I'm not denying anything, you're the one lying through your teeth about how we only signed a Catholic in 89.

The_Kew_Tour · 18-02-2012 06:46PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I wonder which of you will come back crying that the big bad Rangers fans got him banned.

If you think we're so horrible, **** off.

This.

bobmalooka · 18-02-2012 06:48PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I wonder which of you will come back crying that the big bad Rangers fans got him banned.

If you think we're so horrible, **** off.

edit:
I'm not denying anything, you're the one lying through your teeth about how we only signed a Catholic in 89.

so you acknowledge Rangers signing policy as discriminatory?

Whats the banned comment about?

The_Kew_Tour · 18-02-2012 06:51PM

Whats the story about Rangers entering Europe will they have to go through SFA for this or is it a case that they will not be allowed into Europe full stop?

Jelle1880 · 18-02-2012 06:52PM

bobmalooka wrote: »

so you acknowledge Rangers signing policy as discriminatory?

Whats the banned comment about?

Some Celtic fan was banned a few months ago and then came back on claiming we got him banned, when it was just his disgusting comments that did it.

And I'm not talking about the signing policy, I'm talking about how you wrongly claimed our first Catholic was signed in 1989.

By the way, would that be 'our first Catholic' who up to this day can not enter Scotland without 'ra best fans in ra world' protesting against it ?
All because he chose Rangers over Celtic ?

The_Kew_Tour: If Rangers exit administration before March 31st and get the accounts signed off European football could be allowed (depending on what happens later of course).
If not then it's no European football full stop.

The_Kew_Tour · 18-02-2012 06:58PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The_Kew_Tour: If Rangers exit administration before March 31st and get the accounts signed off European football could be allowed (depending on what happens later of course).
If not then it's no European football full stop.

Cheers

bobmalooka · 18-02-2012 07:05PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Some Celtic fan was banned a few months ago and then came back on claiming we got him banned, when it was just his disgusting comments that did it.

And I'm not talking about the signing policy, I'm talking about how you wrongly claimed our first Catholic was signed in 1989.

By the way, would that be 'our first Catholic' who up to this day can not enter Scotland without 'ra best fans in ra world' protesting against it ?

The_Kew_Tour: If Rangers exit administration before March 31st and get the accounts signed off European football could be allowed (depending on what happens later of course).
If not then it's no European football full stop.

Sorry 'high profile' catholic player

David Miller, the general secretary of the Rangers' Supporters' Association condemned the signing, saying "It is a sad day for Rangers... I don't want to see a Roman Catholic at Ibrox."[105] Johnston was the highest-profile Catholic to sign for the club since the World War I era; other Catholics signed prior to Johnston but since the end of World War I include Laurie Blyth (1951–1952), Don Kitchenbrand (1955–1956), Hugh O'Neill (1976) and John Spencer (1985–1992).[106][107]

a little bit of a short list dont you think? gladly the club has moved on and focused on non sectarian illegal practices instead

we can go around in circles forever but the old signing policies stank. you'll say they dont and we can leave it at that if you want.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17085051

any idea what this relates to?

Jelle1880 · 18-02-2012 07:07PM

That list is incomplete, a quick search will tell you the complete list.

What that could mean is that they have more information about the deal made between Murray and Whyte, several people lately have alluded that they may very well have been in on it together.

We'll just have to wait and see.

edit: I wonder why Celtic fans are so angry about the signing policy, while a few years ago they played a friendly against Bilbao who also had a discriminatory signing policy in place (one could reason that they still do).
And they seemed to get along very well with the Spaniards

bobmalooka · 18-02-2012 07:19PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

That list is incomplete, a quick search will tell you the complete list.

What that could mean is that they have more information about the deal made between Murray and Whyte, several people lately have alluded that they may very well have been in on it together.

We'll just have to wait and see.

edit: I wonder why Celtic fans are so angry about the signing policy, while a few years ago they played a friendly against Bilbao who also had a discriminatory signing policy in place

:eek: didn't take you long to slip up

The whole thing stinks (between them two), I honestly believe setting up a new club and coming up the leagues would be best for ye. Ye'd be back challenging for the spl with a healthy balance sheet, debt free and owning all your revenue streams within 5 years.

As it is now even if ye got to write off all your debt ye have no season ticket money for 4 years (reportedly) so ye'd be financially crippled for the next 4 years probably accruing new debt.

Which way would ye personally like to see things go?

Jelle1880 · 18-02-2012 07:33PM

Complete clear-out of the club, top to bottom.

No more 'jobs for the boys', people need to earn their job instead of just being friends with top people in the club.
If we have to spend a few years winning nothing or playing diddy teams in a lower league, so be it. As long as the club survives and comes out stronger.

And how did I slip up there ?

bobbysands81 · 18-02-2012 07:59PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

edit: I wonder why Celtic fans are so angry about the signing policy, while a few years ago they played a friendly against Bilbao who also had a discriminatory signing policy in place (one could reason that they still do).
And they seemed to get along very well with the Spaniards

What discriminatory signing policy did Bilbao have? Did they refuse to sign players from one religion for purely sectarian reasons?

Again it's amazing that The_Kew_Tour is "thanking" these posts that are about sectarian policies when he's trying to claim he's not interested in anything bar the soccer!!!

bobbysands81 · 18-02-2012 08:00PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Complete clear-out of the club, top to bottom.

No more 'jobs for the boys', people need to earn their job instead of just being friends with top people in the club.
If we have to spend a few years winning nothing or playing diddy teams in a lower league, so be it. As long as the club survives and comes out stronger.

And how did I slip up there ?

How did you guys play today? Did you deserve to lose or was it a lucky goal against run of play?

Jelle1880 · 18-02-2012 08:28PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

What discriminatory signing policy did Bilbao have? Did they refuse to sign players from one religion for purely sectarian reasons?

Again it's amazing that The_Kew_Tour is "thanking" these posts that are about sectarian policies when he's trying to claim he's not interested in anything bar the soccer!!!

Erm, their policy to only sign Basque players ?
It's pretty well known.

bobby: First half was pretty bad, second half a bit better but still poor.
But not deserving to lose this, two perfectly good goals disallowed.

The_Kew_Tour · 18-02-2012 08:33PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

What discriminatory signing policy did Bilbao have? Did they refuse to sign players from one religion for purely sectarian reasons?

Again it's amazing that The_Kew_Tour is "thanking" these posts that are about sectarian policies when he's trying to claim he's not interested in anything bar the soccer!!!

It's amazing that you preach about moving on yet you still can't seem to do so.:rolleyes:

It's also amazing that ye all round up and thank each other posts.

Yer like a bunch of kids.

Mid Term is over Monday lucky enough.

Lets see if your a man of your word and you actually do move on?

DB10 · 18-02-2012 08:38PM

Kew Tour isnt it Hibs you support? Along with Manchester United and Barcelona?

Any other teams you support? The pontificating doesnt suit you.

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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