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Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Did I hear that right, the admins are still tracing where the Ticketus money is and they dont know what exactly has been used as security?

    EDIT

    The admins spent a fair bit of time clarifying their previous and current roles at the club and ensuring that their company wasnt being dragged through the mud by Whyte!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    "consider liquidation unlikely."

    Could we rise again....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    The last question as they were going out the door...

    "Has Craig Whyte took this club for a ride!"

    LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Dempsey wrote: »
    The last question as they were going out the door...

    "Has Craig Whyte took this club for a ride!"

    LOL

    Probably Speirs or Traynor wanting more attention.

    Traynor was about to cry when said that Rangers would not go under, fud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Probably Speirs or Traynor wanting more attention.

    Traynor was about to cry when said that Rangers would not go under, fud.
    :pac:
    He was hurting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Is Traynor anti-Rangers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Dunno, I do know he's a tit though.

    One of the worst 'journalists' in Scotland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Neil Lennon wasnt impressed
    Neil Lennon @OfficialNeil
    Well that press conference was clear as mud. Every question body swerved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Wonder what caused the delay! :rolleyes:
    As far as I can tell they were sitting on this forum giggling at all the lies posted by "journalists" today.

    Conference was as expected, no firm answers as they'be not had time to settle yet. If in a fortnight the answers are still vague, then ill really worry.
    I'll take everything posted from Twitter before official announcements with a huge pinch of salt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Eirebear wrote: »
    As far as I can tell they were sitting on this forum giggling at all the lies posted by "journalists" today.

    Conference was as expected, no firm answers as they'be not had time to settle yet. If in a fortnight the answers are still vague, then ill really worry.
    I'll take everything posted from Twitter before official announcements with a huge pinch of salt.

    Like what? :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Neil Lennon wasnt impressed

    Not surprised he didn't understand it :D

    What did he expect them to say ?

    Most important part for me was that they said there are people talking to them about taking over the club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Not surprised he didn't understand it :D

    What did he expect them to say ?

    Do you think what they said today was worth a press conference?

    EDIT

    I could have told you about the "The Blue Knights" on Monday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Do you think what they said today was worth a press conference?

    Erm, yes ?
    Did you honestly expect them to divulge everything ?

    They mentioned that the Ticketus money never went through Rangers accounts, that there's people wanting to talk regarding a take-over and that there's negotiations with HMRC about the big tax bill.

    Sounds pretty important to me.

    edit: You didn't have to, FF and RM already did ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    The ticketus money not going into Rangers accounts is the only thing I didnt know before that press conference. As I said earlier, it seemed more about distancing themselves from Whyte moreso than anything else and repeating what they said the other day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    So where is the Ticket money then? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Des wrote: »
    So where is the Ticket money then? :confused:

    The Craig Whyte retirement fund?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭fionnsda


    Des wrote: »
    So where is the Ticket money then? :confused:

    ln the briefcase maybe!

    193031.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Lumbo


    :p

    pictur10.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Whats he say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Lumbo


    Read the headline.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Lumbo wrote: »
    Read the headline.

    Brilliant!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    I'm not entirely sure what the likes of Dempsey and neil lennon actually expected from that conference today.
    The administrators had barely been in 24 hours, they're hardly going to have an answer to this mess already are they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭fionnsda


    There seems to be more confusion than clarity following this afternoon’s press conference at Ibrox where Duff and Phelps gave information on Rangers FC PLC (in administration).

    Most important item first. The administrators confirmed that they will propose a Creditors Voluntary Agreement (CVA) in order to avoid the company being liquidated. You should ignore sounds of confidence on this matter. The administrators have to sound confident that they have a good deal for creditors, no point telling everyone, ‘We’ve made an offer, but ooph, don’t hold your breath!”

    No indication was given that any creditors were on-side, never mind the 75% by value required. HMRC will have the casting vote in this campaign and are exceptionally unlikely to set a precedent for football clubs to opt-out of PAYE, NI and VAT.

    One fascinating wee snippet is the missing £24m from Ticketus. Of course, if you believed Craig Whyte, the money went into the club. Alternatively, the money was paid to Whyte’s solicitors in advance of the club sale and went straight to Lloyds Banking Group. The remainder will be with one of Whyte’s companies and could well be paying salaries next week. Nothing too exceptional.

    How Ticketus secured this loan is more intriguing, but there is so little information published this is not particularly surprising. Ticketus might have screwed up, but I reckon there is simply a detail not yet revealed to the administrators or public. A non-committal reply was given to a question on the floating charge over the company originally held by Lloyds, which will possibly reveal more about Ticketus when confirmed.

    At some point, possibly next week, the CVA will be proposed. Once the administrator has a response to this they will be in a better position to suggest how likely the company is to be liquidated. Until then, it’s all cheer leading by the guys from London.

    source


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    £24m Disappeared...or else it cannot be found.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17067141
    Speaking about the "invisible" £24m, administrator Mr Whitehouse said he believed the funds went through a parent company account rather than the account of the company now in administration.

    He added that the administrators were checking with Rangers' former lawyers.

    He said the Ticketus debt was not secured against the assets of the football club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    This is genius!

    No idea who's behind it so can't give them credit.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Sh*t song and lyrics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,747 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Political pressure cannot change the rules of Scottish football. FIFA will punish the SFA in that event.

    And how will UEFA punish the SFA? They will do so by preventing Celtic and whoever also qualifies from participating in Europe next season just like they threatened to expel FC Basel for the wrongs of FC Sion this season!

    If Salmond etc insist on attempting to influence proceedings to benefit Rangers then they can look forward to three seperate multi-million pound law suits next season from, presumably Celtic, Motherwell and Hearts/St Johnstone for loss of earnings.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    The more you read about this rangers debacle the more you think this shower should be put out of business for good. Rangers FC is fundamentally rotten to the core.

    Scottish football needs rid of Rangers as they currently exist. They should be wound up. A new club could be started instead that can tap into some of the support that the old rotten Rangers had. The new Rangers could start with a blank sheet, with no sectarian baggage and corrupt financial practices.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Sh*t song and lyrics.

    Not as sh*t as the bent crook that the ditty is about. You keep burying your head in the sand there Keith.


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