Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

ColeTrain · 14-02-2012 06:19PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Fixed that for you.
There's other options, like not the club but the company (Wavetower) being liquidated.

Sure, there will be a few years of **** to clean up, but Rangers will not be 'done'.

You didn't need to fix my post. You said it yourself. "A few years of **** to clean up"? I've always known Rangers to be challenging for the title. If you don't get liquidated you'll have journeyman SPL players lining out for you, no European football and any income you do make will be taken out of your pockets. So yeah Rangers as I've known them are done for at least a long time.

Liquidation might actually be the better option. If not then you'll struggle for years.

Jelle1880 · 14-02-2012 06:42PM

David Bick was just on SSN, explaining that administration was the best outcome for outside players (both north and south of the border) looking in, as it clears up a lot of uncertainty regarding the finances.

And that, if Rangers survive the tax case, there's probably several of them wanting to jump in to get things back on track.

This guy:
http://www.square1consulting.co.uk/our-people/david-bick

KeithAFC · 14-02-2012 10:00PM

Fenian Army wrote: »

Here is an excellent charity mo chara, very worthwhile.
The National Graves Association.
http://www.nga.ie/

They do excellent work maintaining the graves of Ireland's patriot dead, here is an example of their work:

The grave of Castlerea Fenian John Lavin, unveiled by Maud Gonne in 1901:

Before:

After:

They maintain and repair graves and monuments all over the country, but due to a lack of funds not all can be looked after.

They receive no money from the government and rely on money gained from the sale of Lilly's at Easter as well as kind donations.

I think that this would be an excellent charity for you to nominate, a very, very worthy cause. Too many graves of Irish patriots are neglected and they are desperate for money.

I hope you nominate this charity, I'm sure we will all be delighted to see Keith's hard earned cash going towards this particular cause.

There are loads of ways he can donate, paypal, by post etc.

http://www.nga.ie/donate.php

More chance of me joining the IRA than this happening.

KeithAFC · 14-02-2012 10:03PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

You didn't need to fix my post. You said it yourself. "A few years of **** to clean up"? I've always known Rangers to be challenging for the title. If you don't get liquidated you'll have journeyman SPL players lining out for you, no European football and any income you do make will be taken out of your pockets. So yeah Rangers as I've known them are done for at least a long time.

Liquidation might actually be the better option. If not then you'll struggle for years.

Don't be so bloody silly. I would rather watch ****e SPL players putting on that famous blue jersey than be gone. The hardcore will follow on.

Coillte_Bhoy · 14-02-2012 10:05PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

More chance of me joining the IRA than this happening.

So which charity will benefit? Surely you're not going to welch on the bet???

KeithAFC · 14-02-2012 10:07PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

So which charity will benefit? Surely you're not going to welch on the bet???

I will donate but not to something that stupid. Got to go now. More chat tomorrow on this situation with Rangers I suppose.

Dempsey · 14-02-2012 10:11PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

I will donate but not to something that stupid. Got to go now. More chat tomorrow on this situation with Rangers I suppose.

Yorkhill Childrens Foundation?

Coillte_Bhoy · 14-02-2012 10:18PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

I will donate but not to something that stupid. Got to go now. More chat tomorrow on this situation with Rangers I suppose.

Fair play to you.

Orando Broom · 14-02-2012 10:18PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

I will donate but not to something that stupid. Got to go now. More chat tomorrow on this situation with Rangers I suppose.

A discussion thread, a poll and a public vote. Tis the fair way.

Dempsey · 14-02-2012 10:24PM

Daniel Cousin wasnt registered before Rangers went into administration. LOL

Blatter · 14-02-2012 10:33PM

BREAKING: Heart of Midlothian and Rangers FC to merge. New club name HMRC.

Fenian Army · 14-02-2012 10:40PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

So which charity will benefit? Surely you're not going to welch on the bet???

I will donate but not to something that stupid. Got to go now. More chat tomorrow on this situation with Rangers I suppose.

Well according to the bet, its not up to you least you want to welch.

Thats what these type of bets are about, lost a similar one myself and had to donate to the british legion, wasnt happy but it was what I agreed to.

We will see what charity he nominates I guess.

Fenian Army · 14-02-2012 10:41PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

So which charity will benefit? Surely you're not going to welch on the bet???

I will donate but not to something that stupid. Got to go now. More chat tomorrow on this situation with Rangers I suppose.

Well according to the bet, its not up to you least you want to welch.

Thats what these type of bets are about, lost a similar one myself and had to donate to the british legion, wasnt happy but it was what I agreed to.

We will see what charity he nominates I guess.

cruiserweight · 14-02-2012 11:05PM

Jim Traynor and Stephen Morrow on Newsnight Scotland discussing the problems at Rangers now

Dempsey · 14-02-2012 11:10PM

I rather watch paint dry than listen to Traynor

Jelle1880 · 14-02-2012 11:16PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Daniel Cousin wasnt registered before Rangers went into administration. LOL

Nothing weird about that, his transfer was under review by the SFA and obviously won't go through now.

It's not like we're gonna need him now.

Dempsey · 14-02-2012 11:23PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Nothing weird about that, his transfer was under review by the SFA and obviously won't go through now.

It's not like we're gonna need him now.

Except that he was paraded in front of the media this morning

They were waiting on international clearance, that was given but the SPL still didnt have the process finalised when administrators were appointed

bobbysands81 · 14-02-2012 11:38PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

More chance of me joining the IRA than this happening.

Keith, you can't welch on a bet. When the title has been won you have to donate to a charity of my choice as per our agreement.

El Horseboxo · 14-02-2012 11:54PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Keith, you can't welch on a bet. When the title has been won you have to donate to a charity of my choice as per our agreement.

Has to be the graves association one now. For the craic like.

KeithAFC · 15-02-2012 08:46AM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Keith, you can't welch on a bet. When the title has been won you have to donate to a charity of my choice as per our agreement.

:pac:

Not to the IRA charity though.

Jelle1880 · 15-02-2012 09:10AM

Whyte is in Monaco, guess that's the last we see of him (Unless some Bears kidnap him and bring him back

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Pompey Magnus · 15-02-2012 09:41AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Whyte is in Monaco, guess that's the last we see of him (Unless some Bears kidnap him and bring him back )

Well his decision to not pay his taxes etc has more or less just handed Celtic the title, I'm sure he still has his supporters among the Rangers fans though, the man is made of teflon it seems.

David Murray ended up owing about £25-30 million in unpaid taxes (not including fines) over the course of 20 years as chairman, Whyte owes £9 million in a space of 9 months and has cost the team 10 points and administration yet he is still seen as the saviour.

KeithAFC · 15-02-2012 09:44AM

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Well his decision to not pay his taxes etc has more or less just handed Celtic the title, I'm sure he still has his supporters among the Rangers fans though, the man is made of teflon it seems.

David Murray ended up owing about £25-30 million in unpaid taxes (not including fines) over the course of 20 years as chairman, Whyte owes £9 million in a space of 9 months and has cost the team 10 points and administration yet he is still seen as the saviour.

The tide is turning on that front amongst many Rangers fans.

bobbysands81 · 15-02-2012 09:46AM

KeithAFC wrote: »

:pac:

Not to the IRA charity though.

The National Graves Association is not an "IRA charity"... and even if it was or if I pick an "IRA charity" you must honour the bet and pay it.

Can I remind you of the terms of the bet -

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Charity to be chosen by the winner of the bet.

You win you nominate a charity for me to pay, I win I nominate a charity for you to pay.

And here's a post I made when you guys were still 4 points ahead of us in the league and about to play us at home.

tommyhaas wrote: »

How funny would it be to see the name Bobby Sands on a donation to the type of Charity KeithAFC is likely to chose

bobbysands81 wrote: »

No matter what charity he picks, as long as it's a registered charity, I'll pay.

STEP UP AND PAY THEKEITH.

Eirebear · 15-02-2012 09:55AM

I did say at the time of the bet .."Oh Dear.." and to be fair keith, you did make the bet.

That said - I wouldnt be paying a penny of the bet until the league is officially over and also, even from a republican point of view, there must be more deserving charities tbh.

bobbysands81 · 15-02-2012 09:59AM

Eirebear wrote: »

I did say at the time of the bet .."Oh Dear.." and to be fair keith, you did make the bet.

That said - I wouldnt be paying a penny of the bet until the league is officially over and also, even from a republican point of view, there must be more deserving charities tbh.

Don't worry EB, I won't be looking to collect until the league is officially over... and I'm sure I can come up with an even better charity!!!

Jelle1880 · 15-02-2012 10:03AM

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Well his decision to not pay his taxes etc has more or less just handed Celtic the title, I'm sure he still has his supporters among the Rangers fans though, the man is made of teflon it seems.

David Murray ended up owing about £25-30 million in unpaid taxes (not including fines) over the course of 20 years as chairman, Whyte owes £9 million in a space of 9 months and has cost the team 10 points and administration yet he is still seen as the saviour.

I doubt it, many (including me) are now starting to see what his plan really was.

Eirebear · 15-02-2012 10:05AM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Don't worry EB, I won't be looking to collect until the league is officially over... and I'm sure I can come up with an even better charity!!!

lol, i'm sure you can!

KeithAFC · 15-02-2012 10:06AM

Eirebear wrote: »

I did say at the time of the bet .."Oh Dear.." and to be fair keith, you did make the bet.

That said - I wouldnt be paying a penny of the bet until the league is officially over and also, even from a republican point of view, there must be more deserving charities tbh.

I agree. I would give to any charity like cancer research etc.

bobbysands81 · 15-02-2012 10:20AM

KeithAFC wrote: »

I agree. I would give to any charity like cancer research etc.

Well then you should have won the bet so you could have chosen the charity... and there's nothing stopping you donating to said cancer research charity as well anyway!

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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