Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

DB10 wrote: »

Thank **** his days at the club are numbered.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. The board ovb love the job he's doing so they won't fire him. The only way he'll be gone is if he decides he's had enough.

I'd love to see some money spent but i do see that buying "ready made" players does hurt the progress of our youths. I thinki my main gripes with Wenger are he doesn't seem to have such an eye for the youth players anymore, he puts too much faith in some players who really don't repay it, he is far too stubborn to alter his tactics even though the player that those tactics were built around is gone.

Overall I don't really want Wenger gone, I dont see many replacements who could do what he's done with the limitations he's been under. What I want to see is Wenger opening up to some other points of view, and a change in his damn tactical set-up. These things and a few changes in staff and we'll be right back up there challenging for titles.

newbie2 wrote: »

There's a lot of rumours regarding Eden Hazard floating around today.....

I will eat my hat...and i don't even own a hat. That's how confident i am that no hat eating will need to take place.

Lahinchians wrote: »

I wouldn't be too sure about that. The board ovb love the job he's doing so they won't fire him. The only way he'll be gone is if he decides he's had enough.

I'd love to see some money spent but i do see that buying "ready made" players does hurt the progress of our youths. I thinki my main gripes with Wenger are he doesn't seem to have such an eye for the youth players anymore, he puts too much faith in some players who really don't repay it, he is far too stubborn to alter his tactics even though the player that those tactics were built around is gone.

Overall I don't really want Wenger gone, I dont see many replacements who could do what he's done with the limitations he's been under. What I want to see is Wenger opening up to some other points of view, and a change in his damn tactical set-up. These things and a few changes in staff and we'll be right back up there challenging for titles.

The bit in bold is what gets me, a lot of people go on about our lack of money and Wengers under financial constraints, yet every transfer window well hear from the board that funds are available for players transfers if Wenger wants them. Yet very few happen so if were to believe the board its not there fault at all its the managers,ok maybe the board are lying to the fans but in that case why doesnt Wenger come out and say look ive no money to spend and be honest about it? Because as far as I can see if we take everyone on there word the board are giving funds but Wengers to stubborn to admit hes made mistakes a bring in the players that could make the differance.

So for me im taking everyone on there word and in that case not only do our tactics, and motivation fall on Wenger so does our last of activity in the tansfer market along with the ridicilous wages we have some players on.

Agreed, Koscielny has been at least in the top 3 players of Arsenal's Season. Despite mistakes last season, I felt he was constantly developing and adapting. I don't mind giving players like him bedding in time, as long as he's trying and improving which he clearly was.

Him and Verm could be a central defensive partnership to envy for years to come, injuries not withstanding.

tayto lover wrote: »

Someone on t.v. today before the Liv v Utd game while talking about Ferguson stated that he gave players a chance to prove themselves but if they didn't he got rid of them. Ferguson never put up with mediocrity for long. That cannot be said for Wenger. He stands by useless players and that is what is dragging us down.

There's a theory that gets mentioned by pundits/football writers sometimes that part of arsenal's problems is that wenger never changes his coaching staff - he even persuaded pat rice to stay on for another year - whereas ferguson has changed them several times.
rice & primorac hace been there for years and are thought to offer nothing different to the thinking of wenger



regarding kocielny that mix up in the CC final has actually helped him - he even said himself that he started to concentrate more/work harder after it - every cloud and all that nonsense

Frisbee wrote: »

Would like to see us line up as such today....

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Woj

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Yennaris

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Djourou

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Vermaelen

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Miquel

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Coquelin---Song

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Oxo

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Arshavin

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Henry

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RVP

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Walcott needs to be dropped to hopefully knock the prima-donna 'I can do no wrong' attitude out of him and he also needs to be dropped coz he's just not good at football tbh.

Mertesacker needs a break as does Koscielny. I know Arteta could be back but wouldn't like to see us risk him in this game, especially not now we'll probably be without Jack for the rest of the season.

Would like to see Arshavin get a start centrally, I know he's been poor, but Ramsey needs a break and hopefully a good game in the hole for Shave means we can give Ramsey a couple of games rest that he badly needs.

He definitely won't be leaving that many out as much as they may need rests. Is Sagna back today?

He's a hugely frustrating player, that's for sure. Still 4 assists and 3 goals is surely more rewarding than playing with 10.

luvbulmers01 wrote: »

Noo wrote: »

He definitely won't be leaving that many out as much as they may need rests. Is Sagna back today?

Yep looks like Sagna is starting today .

Yeah I've never gotten this "risking players" malark, if they are back in full training and pass a fitness test then they are fine to play, they're gonna have to be brought back for their first full game at some stage. Like with verm last week.

Anyways welcome back chewbacary, you've been missed.

My bad look like I got it wrong Sagna not starting, but at least he made the bench.