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Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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  • #5762
    offyourfeet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭offyourfeet


    the_blackstuff wrote: »
    How good is Hanrahan? Always struck me to be a bit nice nice and not so one for making hard yards.

    looks a really good footballer my only fear is that he doesn't have the pace. It may just be in the games I saw him play but he looked a little slow.


  • #5763
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    profitius wrote: »


    He looks like a player who tries to play the ball away before contact. Is that what you mean? Its not a bad habit to have.

    How many times have you seen him play? In the flesh, so to speak.


  • #5764
    profitius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    How many times have you seen him play? In the flesh, so to speak.

    Not many why? I'm not trying to hype him up I'm just giving my opinion.


  • #5765
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    profitius wrote: »
    Not many why? I'm not trying to hype him up I'm just giving my opinion.

    Well, just that it's bizarre to say he could be challenging Sexton based on only a few games.


  • #5766
    profitius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    Well, just that it's bizarre to say he could be challenging Sexton based on only a few games.

    Not really. I said COULD. Time will tell.


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  • #5767
    the_blackstuff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭the_blackstuff


    profitius wrote: »


    He looks like a player who tries to play the ball away before contact. Is that what you mean? Its not a bad habit to have.

    What I mean really is I don't know how hard he is. If you take Rog for example. he's never going to break to many tackles but he'll try, he'll get beat up time and again in games but he'll stay coming back. he's tough off. Always felt jj didn't like that side of the game. Don't get me wrong he's a nice footballer just worry about how tough he is. I haven't seen a major amount of him at senior level tho so don't shoot me for my opinion.


  • #5768
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    profitius wrote: »
    Not really. I said COULD. Time will tell.

    We'll see, I've seen a lot of hype come and go at this stage, I need to distance myself from it now.


  • #5769
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Have never been massively impressed by Hanrahan, just because I've been expecting so much from his everytime I've seen him. I don't think he is as good as, say, McKinley was. But saying that, it's such a cerebral position (10 OR 12 that is) that it's very hard to judge a young player against what they could become without seeing a lot of them. I really hope Hanrahan develops into a great player for Munster, it's be a complete change to the style of 10 they have now. Or even himself and Keatley together at 10 and 12.

    From what I've heard Stuart Olding is looking extremely good up north as well, so there are plenty of young axial players around the country (not to mention Jarvis in Connacht who is imo a potential H Cup/international standard player). Great to see.

    What about Declan Cusack, have Munster given up on that idea?


  • #5770
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Have never been massively impressed by Hanrahan, just because I've been expecting so much from his everytime I've seen him. I don't think he is as good as, say, McKinley was. But saying that, it's such a cerebral position (10 OR 12 that is) that it's very hard to judge a young player against what they could become without seeing a lot of them. I really hope Hanrahan develops into a great player for Munster, it's be a complete change to the style of 10 they have now. Or even himself and Keatley together at 10 and 12.

    From what I've heard Stuart Olding is looking extremely good up north as well, so there are plenty of young axial players around the country (not to mention Jarvis in Connacht who is imo a potential H Cup/international standard player). Great to see.

    What about Declan Cusack, have Munster given up on that idea?


  • #5771
    PhatPiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Have never been massively impressed by Hanrahan, just because I've been expecting so much from his everytime I've seen him. I don't think he is as good as, say, McKinley was. But saying that, it's such a cerebral position (10 OR 12 that is) that it's very hard to judge a young player against what they could become without seeing a lot of them. I really hope Hanrahan develops into a great player for Munster, it's be a complete change to the style of 10 they have now. Or even himself and Keatley together at 10 and 12.

    From what I've heard Stuart Olding is looking extremely good up north as well, so there are plenty of young axial players around the country (not to mention Jarvis in Connacht who is imo a potential H Cup/international standard player). Great to see.

    What about Declan Cusack, have Munster given up on that idea?

    Last time I rememebr seeing him play they brought him on a s a sub and took him off again 30 miuntes later! That was a couple of seasons ago but he's hardly gotten a look in since. I'd say the signing of Keatly was the writing on the wall for Cusack.


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  • #5772
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    PhatPiggins wrote: »
    Last time I rememebr seeing him play they brought him on a s a sub and took him off again 30 miuntes later! That was a couple of seasons ago but he's hardly gotten a look in since. I'd say the signing of Keatly was the writing on the wall for Cusack.
    I remember him playing last year. Warwick was inside him at 12 and the game had a simple structure when Munster had the ball SH would pass to Cusack who would pass to Warwick who would make a decision on what to do.

    Everytime he got the ball he passed to Warwick did the placekicking and restarts as well.

    I really don't rate him.


  • #5773
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Cusack is actually a decent enough player, I'd have him at 10 ahead of Deasy. He wasted too much time playing in Division 2 with Thomond, only moved to Garryowen last season. He needs to move though, if he can find somewhere to take him, Keatley is always going to be ahead of him.

    The real mystery outhalf in Munster is Andrew Burke. Good enough to rotate with McKinley (and ahead of Madigan) for the Irish u20's, played for Munster A straight out of school, played friendlies for Munster at 19 or 20 and then just dropped out of pro rugby. He had some run of injuries and maybe figured the pro game wasn't for him.


  • #5774
    CiaranMT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    Cusack is actually a decent enough player, I'd have him at 10 ahead of Deasy. He wasted too much time playing in Division 2 with Thomond, only moved to Garryowen last season. He needs to move though, if he can find somewhere to take him, Keatley is always going to be ahead of him.

    The real mystery outhalf in Munster is Andrew Burke. Good enough to rotate with McKinley (and ahead of Madigan) for the Irish u20's, played for Munster A straight out of school, played friendlies for Munster at 19 or 20 and then just dropped out of pro rugby. He had some run of injuries and maybe figured the pro game wasn't for him.

    Fella that played over in the Liberty a few seasons back, when we beat the Ospreys with Más kicking a penalty or two?


  • #5775
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    CiaranMT wrote: »
    Fella that played over in the Liberty a few seasons back, when we beat the Ospreys with Más kicking a penalty or two?

    That was Conan Doyle (who rotated with Sexton for the then Irish u21's (or were they the first year of u20's?). Garryowen captain now. A bit like Deasy in that he can play anywhere in the backs whereas unless you've Earls-like ability you really need to specialise. Burke plays 12 for Young Munster now. Burke got a brief pro12 run out against Cardiff, iirc, didn't go all that well but he'd have been pretty young.

    If Deasy had picked one position when he was 18 he'd be better for it now, imo.


  • #5776
    CiaranMT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    That was Conan Doyle (who rotated with Sexton for the then Irish u21's (or were they the first year of u20's?). Garryowen captain now. A bit like Deasy in that he can play anywhere in the backs whereas unless you've Earls-like ability you really need to specialise. Burke plays 12 for Young Munster now. Burke got a brief pro12 run out against Cardiff, iirc, didn't go all that well but he'd have been pretty young.

    If Deasy had picked one position when he was 18 he'd be better for it now, imo.

    Ah yeah I remembr now, was mixing Doyle and Ciaran O' Boyle up around that time.

    Whatever happened to the latter? Is he still involved in rugby somewhere? Always was disappointed that Munster let him go, one of the few wingers with real pace we've have over the years.


  • #5777
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    That was Conan Doyle (who rotated with Sexton for the then Irish u21's (or were they the first year of u20's?). Garryowen captain now. A bit like Deasy in that he can play anywhere in the backs whereas unless you've Earls-like ability you really need to specialise. Burke plays 12 for Young Munster now. Burke got a brief pro12 run out against Cardiff, iirc, didn't go all that well but he'd have been pretty young.

    If Deasy had picked one position when he was 18 he'd be better for it now, imo.
    CiaranMT wrote: »
    Ah yeah I remembr now, was mixing Doyle and Ciaran O' Boyle up around that time.

    Whatever happened to the latter? Is he still involved in rugby somewhere? Always was disappointed that Munster let him go, one of the few wingers with real pace we've have over the years.
    Andrew Burke???
    He didnt want to turn pro, only wanted to play socially
    Playing AIL with munsters but there was a while when he was only playing 3rds rugby
    Doyle is garryowen club captain this season


  • #5778
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    ormond lad wrote: »
    Andrew Burke???
    He didnt want to turn pro, only wanted to play socially
    Playing AIL with munsters but there was a while when he was only playing 3rds rugby

    Sure you aren't thinking of the centre/winger McCarthy?


  • #5779
    ormond lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ormond lad


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    Sure you aren't thinking of the centre/winger McCarthy?
    no 100% on burke, some on mfs still talk about him sometimes.great talent who just didnt want to play pro rugby


  • #5780
    Flincher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Flincher


    ormond lad wrote: »
    no 100% on burke, some on mfs still talk about him sometimes.great talent who just didnt want to play pro rugby

    As far as I'm aware Burke was cut by Munster. He played for UCC while he was down in Cork, and Munsters picked him up at the start of last year. He's alright at that level for Munsters. I've seen him a good few times for both Munsters and UCC, and he certainly doesn't stand out at AIL the way the likes of McFadden and Murphy did.

    Diarmuid McCarthy was the Castletroy schools centre/wing who apparently did not want to play pro. He went off the radar after schools and featured for Garryowen a few times. No idea where he is now.


  • #5781
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Where is Ciaran OBoyle?


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  • #5782
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Where is Ciaran OBoyle?

    Had a really bad leg injury after an impressive few runs for Munster. Think the injury finished his pro career but he's playing AIL for one of the Dublin teams.


  • #5783
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    ormond lad wrote: »
    no 100% on burke, some on mfs still talk about him sometimes.great talent who just didnt want to play pro rugby

    Mad that probably the three best Limerick backs after Earls in schools didn't want to go pro, Burke, McCarthy and Kelleher.


  • #5784
    Benny Cake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    Mad that probably the three best Limerick backs after Earls in schools didn't want to go pro, Burke, McCarthy and Kelleher.

    I was very disappointed we didn't see more of McCarthy when he left Castletroy. He looked to have all the skills to make the step up. I suppose you have to respect his decision, pro rugby isn't for everyone.


  • #5785
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Benny Cake wrote: »
    I was very disappointed we didn't see more of McCarthy when he left Castletroy. He looked to have all the skills to make the step up. I suppose you have to respect his decision, pro rugby isn't for everyone.

    Yeah, thing is, you can't make the grade without really, really wanting to put the hard work in. It's something you have to want hugely.


  • #5786
    Benny Cake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Any word on Niall Ronan? Looked very bad for him yesterday...


  • #5787
    CiaranMT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Not sounding good from mfans...


  • #5788
    Lapsed Catholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭Lapsed Catholic


    O'Boyle is training to be a solicitor in Dublin and is, I believe, involved with Lansdowne. He suffered a very bad hamstring injury while at Munster, which was misdiagnosed and mistreated, ultimately ending his pro career.


  • #5789
    SomeFool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭SomeFool


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Where is Ciaran OBoyle?

    Posting here :eek:


  • #5790
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    SomeFool wrote: »
    Posting here :eek:
    nope not me


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  • #5791
    Clegg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    What did ye lot think when Will Greenwood said that Munster are now Irelands 3rd best province?

    On recent form I'd say he's right. Ulster have been something else in the Heineken Cup. They have some great players in top form right now and the yeam as a whole is playing great rugby. Their pack is playing out of their skin and the back are very dangerous.

    Don't take this as an insult to Munster. I'm just wondering what you think about the current state of Irish provincial rugby.


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