Son Of General Retro Discussion

pdbhp · 07-01-2012 05:10PM

Just back from Bray, played a load of MarioKart Arcade, bloody fun game:D
Then went to Game in Tallaght and saw Shinobi for €15 damn MK Arcade ate all my monies so I couldn't buy it:(

Steve X2 · 07-01-2012 05:21PM

pdbhp wrote: »

Just back from Bray, played a load of MarioKart Arcade, bloody fun game:D
Then went to Game in Tallaght and saw Shinobi for €15 damn MK Arcade ate all my monies so I couldn't buy it:(

Have they fixed the mario kart in bray yet?
Last time I played it the player 1 cab had loads of missing textures(like the road).

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pdbhp · 07-01-2012 05:29PM

Steve SI wrote: »

Have they fixed the mario kart in bray yet?
Last time I played it the player 1 cab had loads of missing textures(like the road).

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Yes and no, the road textures on yoshi's levels are still not there but other courses have somehow came back to life.
Last week I was there and P1 cab was even more broken, the wheel was all limp and busted but they've seemed to have repaired that.

Fantastic game would love an 8 player cab, just imagine the fun from that.

readyletsgo · 07-01-2012 05:37PM

pdbhp wrote: »

Just back from Bray, played a load of MarioKart Arcade, bloody fun game:D
Then went to Game in Tallaght and saw Shinobi for €15 damn MK Arcade ate all my monies so I couldn't buy it:(

Shinobi for €15? Second hand? Must see if Game in town have it for that!!!!

pdbhp · 07-01-2012 05:48PM

readyletsgo wrote: »

Shinobi for €15? Second hand? Must see if Game in town have it for that!!!!

Brand spanking new, reduced from €45. I was astounded as that game is only out. Crying shame I had no monies:(

readyletsgo · 07-01-2012 05:53PM

pdbhp wrote: »

Brand spanking new, reduced from €45. I was astounded as that game is only out. Crying shame I had no monies:(

Holy craps, better get my ass up there tomorrow so!
Betch its only a deal in the Tallaght store

Heard its a good game but pretty damn hard.

pdbhp · 07-01-2012 05:56PM

readyletsgo wrote: »

Holy craps, better get my ass up there tomorrow so!
Betch its only a deal in the Tallaght store

Heard its a good game but pretty damn hard.

Don't know if it's in other stores but they had a few copies knocking about.

I'd say it's pretty good but in true Shinobi fashion it's probably designed to kick your áss.

Dale Parish · 07-01-2012 06:51PM

What screen should a mega drive show if there's no cartridge in it?

Jack burton · 07-01-2012 06:55PM

Dale Parish wrote: »

What screen should a mega drive show if there's no cartridge in it?

This video should inform you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj84tfS7ag4

Dale Parish · 07-01-2012 07:01PM

Jack burton wrote: »

This video should inform you

Phew. Thought I had a broken mega drive there for a sec :pac:

readyletsgo · 08-01-2012 03:15PM

pdbhp wrote: »

Don't know if it's in other stores but they had a few copies knocking about.

I'd say it's pretty good but in true Shinobi fashion it's probably designed to kick your áss.

Yay! Got the 'last(?)' copy of Shinobi in GAME in the Ilac centre today!
Was €15.98, reduced from €22. I got it for €10 as I had a bit of cash on that GAME card thingy.

Nice one pdbhp, thanks for telling me!

pdbhp · 08-01-2012 03:19PM

readyletsgo wrote: »

Yay! Got the 'last(?)' copy of Shinobi in GAME in the Ilac centre today!
Was €15.98, reduced from €22. I got it for €10 as I had a bit of cash on that GAME card thingy.

Nice one pdbhp, thanks for telling me!

No bother, let me know how it is and if I get monies I'll buy it

Jack burton · 08-01-2012 07:01PM

Looking at one of these XRBG 2 upscalers, I'd say running a scart switcher box into it for some consoles would turn out pretty well.

Does anyone have any experience with upscaling boxes and stuff?

Myrddin · 08-01-2012 07:13PM

If using it with a scart switcher box, make sure all ports on it are RGB. Not all are, I got two Madcatz manual switch boxes for the attic, primarily because all four ports are RGB

Jack burton · 08-01-2012 07:23PM

You running them through an upscaler aswell?

Myrddin · 08-01-2012 07:26PM

Jack burton wrote: »

You running them through an upscaler aswell?

Nope, straight into the CRT for the older ones. But for using the upscaler you'll want the best source quality therfore RGB on all switch ports is desireable

Pyongyang · 08-01-2012 07:49PM

Be very careful with XRGB devices. The SCART port is a Japanese 21 pin SCART. You will need an EU > NTSC-J adapter to convert the signal between your EU SCART cable and the XRGB.

Trust me, you put anything but a 21 pin NTSC-J SCART cable in to an XRGB and you'll fry not only the XRGB but anything connected to it too. Make sure of that converter purchase!

Personally I wouldn't buy an XRGB2 now, or the XRGB2+. An XRGB3 maybe, but to be honest it's a toss up between an XRGB3 and the new XRGB Mini. Even then, the main benefit of the XRGB is the scanline generator, which you may as well buy an SLG 3000 for and get a separate scaler instead. Heck, even an HDBOX Pro or one of it's clones connected to an SLG will see you right.

I love my iScan HD+ and my HDBOX Pro clone. They do the job with my SLG and Sync Strike in tow. However remember to check for inputs and outputs, especially if you plan to capture later on. You may find you want to get a DVDO Edge although if you throw HDMI in the loop at any point, you'll need an HD Fury 3 (not a 1 or 2) to strip the HDCP. I have a DVDO VP20 under my TV that takes my satellite receiver/PVR and upscales SDTV to 1080p. I haven't tried connecting my XBOX 360 to it yet per the HDCP issue. I'm looking in to getting an HD Fury 3 at some point this year but have no major need for one right now.

However, you may also find you need a scan converter. I have a great one I bought from the USA that will scan convert Component to VGA and vice versa. It starts getting complicated there so you really need to ask yourself what you want to acheive and how much you want to spend.

If you can pick up an XRGB2 super cheap (like, sub-€170) then get one. But to be honest, you might as well buy an SLG and an HDBOX Pro clone and save yourself a few bob.

Jack burton · 08-01-2012 08:47PM

Well I just want to have everything looking as best as it can on my HD tv.

I have the 360, PS3 and HDMI things all going straight to the TV

I just want an upscaler to run the MD, Saturn etc into and I know little to nothing about doing it. I assumed the jap stuff would be really easy to blow up so and up scaler and a scanline generator would be the bees knees you recon?

I'm buiding a whole media unit from scratch so I'd drop a few pound on an upscaler etc. By worth it in the long run like

o1s1n · 08-01-2012 08:48PM

No room for a nice big 29 inch 4:3 Trinitron no?

They're cheap as chips these days!

Jack burton · 08-01-2012 08:50PM

I would like one but dont have the space, only one room I have to work with and its going to be my living room/workstation aswell.

So everything has to be going into the one tv thats there

Pyongyang · 08-01-2012 08:58PM

Jack burton wrote: »

so and up scaler and a scanline generator would be the bees knees you recon?

Yep. Buy yourself the full kit from Arcadeforge. The SLG, Sync Strike & Scaler kit. That'll sort you out nicely if you don't want to spend frightening amounts of money and just have something that works great.

Myrddin · 08-01-2012 09:00PM

Pyongyang wrote: »

Be very careful with XRGB devices. The SCART port is a Japanese 21 pin SCART. You will need an EU > NTSC-J adapter to convert the signal between your EU SCART cable and the XRGB.

Trust me, you put anything but a 21 pin NTSC-J SCART cable in to an XRGB and you'll fry not only the XRGB but anything connected to it too. Make sure of that converter purchase!

That's mad, I never knew there were diffences in the SCART standard. How come JAP consoles work over here via scart etc?

Jack burton · 08-01-2012 09:04PM

So were talking this package here?

SLG 3000

Scart

Sync Strike

Pyongyang · 08-01-2012 09:05PM

Yep. But the kit:

http://wp1114205.wp150.webpack.hosteurope.de/xtcmodified/product_info.php?products_id=29

That'll do the job nicely for you.

Jack burton · 08-01-2012 09:07PM

Oh right, lovely, So run the multiscart through that and into the tv then?

Thanks for the help Pyongyang, Sorry for being a n00b and asking stupid questions

*Edit I was RTFMing and I answered my own question

I'll order that kit during the week and build a little box for the back of my media unit to house it, think I'll label it the "****ing Flux Capacitor"

Pyongyang · 08-01-2012 09:13PM

If you are using SCART out from your consoles, then SCART OUT > Sync Strike > Scaler > SLG > TV will be perfect. The Sync Strike has phono breakouts too so you can plug those in to a headphone jack with an adapter or in to your AV receiver or what have you.

Mentioned these guys in the past, Shaun aka FaginRS500 is an absolute legend, and Tobias aka fudoh is equally a legend when it comes to scalers and processors and scanlines.

Here's three excellent links you really want to be checking out. Lots of great info from two top blokes:

http://scanlines.hazard-city.de

http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de

http://www.youtube.com/user/Faginrs500

CathalDublin · 08-01-2012 09:16PM

EnterNow wrote: »

That's mad, I never knew there were diffences in the SCART standard. How come JAP consoles work over here via scart etc?

Jap consoles work on European scart cables as the console side connection pin outs are the same.
But a jap RGB cable won't work on our tv's As the pinouts are wrong on the scart side.
See links
http://www.gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=av:japanese_rgb-21
So using a jap RGB(scart) switch has bad news written all over it

Jack burton · 08-01-2012 09:22PM

haha I was only watching fagins youtube channel, saw links on the arcade forge forum.

This really is no mans land to me. Gets me very confused very easy so I think that diy scaler kit will be the perfect thing for me. Now a good RGB scart switcher box and some good cables and I'll be sorted

I was looking at that Gamecube component lead aswell but I cant justify paying the ebay prices of almost 100 euro for a cable

Pyongyang · 08-01-2012 09:25PM

Yep, what CathalDublin said. I meant to put that in the prior post. If you put anything other than an NTSC-J SCART cable in to an XRGB you're asking for trouble.

Jack burton · 08-01-2012 09:47PM

say this would do that job for me?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Scart-Switch-Box-View-and-Record-RGB-Compliant-/190507328797?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item2c5b1f251d

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