Garda Pension

Can you picture a member of AGS or a paramedic crewing a frontline vehicle at 68!!!!??. Beggars belief that the government are really considering implementing this. There is no way the majority of us will still be able to carry out our duties simply from a physical point of view at that age.

RoverJames wrote: »

Call into your local Garda station to get your declaration witnessed for motor tax, it's not a civilian that does it
Folk in their 60s can perform random breath testing etc too, plenty of more duties too.

Yes.....thats because (1) - only Gardaí can sign these forums like passport etc as per legislation and (2) civilians can only do so much......if you rang a Garda station for advise on a situation would you like to talk to a civilian same as yourself or a Garda??? Civilians took 99% of the jobs they could.......public officer is not one of those jobs.

Gardaí....in their 60s.....preforming RBT checkpoints.....are you for real?? Are you seriously thinking about this?? What happens when the driver becomes aggressive?? Drives off or towards the member.....their reactions would be alot slower.......

What happens in 40 years when there is 4/6 thousand 60 year old members......how will be find nice safe jobs for all those??

RoverJames wrote: »

Excellent, let some of the older ones do the roles I have mentioned


Many RBT checkpoints have more than two Gardai, having a Garda in their 60s at one wouldn't be an issue. An able bodied 60 odd year old who has been active and kept off the doughnuts would be quite fit. There are folks in their 60s training in martial arts.



Not every Garda will hang around, much like in every other job, leave early and start claiming your pension you get a reduced amount. As folk get older their expenses are not as high.

Are you for real, it's quite obvious you have NO idea of half the things a member of AGS does. Is it fair to make a 68 year old work a week of nights. I find that hard enough and I'm under 30! Saying they can do certain jobs and not others is wrong. You reckon an elderly member should be in the station the whole time, that means other younger members are on the beat/on a post/ in a patrol car the whole time. I'd love to hear your suggestions on how those members are supposed to investigate crime and find the time to do the files relating to these. They can't just come in and do them, that's part of what being on station duties is about, doing paperwork in between answering the phone and signing forms.

As for having a 68 year old grandmother standing IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD at 2am stopping traffic is just dangerous in my opinion. Regular Gardai HAVE to retire at the moment at the age of 60 regardless of amount of service, with good reason in my opinion. to put it bluntly, the majority are beyond the physical demands of the job.

I'm also of the opinion that at that age, they deserve their retirement having dealt with 30 years of junkies, violent prisoners, sudden deaths, fatal and serious injury road traffic accidents and the othe joyful parts of the job.

@ roverjames

from your comments above, it is clear that you have no idea what the average day is for a guard.

i would say that a small percentage is spent behind the counter and every active guard has to be physically fit and expected to be able to assist a fellow guard to restrain a hyped up teenager. How many 60+ year old do you know are able to restrain anyone?

I'm a member of the public sector (ex private sector) and I would not see any of the sh1t that's thrown at the guards.

I think its time to get off your high horse and see what the actual AGS jobs requirements are before you give an opinion.

& so your true colours have become apparent. An anti ES keyboard warrior who has to resort to passing disparaging comments about ES personnel because you didn't/don't get the answers your looking for. Your petulant, rude & condescending to the majority of ES board users with your last post!!!.

RoverJames wrote: »

Any news on a reply for the routine fitness requirements for a serving Garda

If ye reckon over 60s aren't up to it surely the under 60s are being regularly assessed to ensure they are still capable of passing the entry requirement?

I am far from anti ES too btw, I had an uncle a FireMan and a few folk I know over the years are Gardai and Firemen.

No....no answer for you....I decided after your second post you were trolling and I generally dont reply to Trolls unless its in bold writing (like this)

RoverJames wrote: »

Who, by your reckoning is qualified to speak in this thread? (Again, I don't expect an answer) According to the charter anyone can.

Not necessarly......the charter clearly states that you should have an interest in ES (other than trolling it)

Emergency Service Forum Charter wrote:

This forum is for the discussion of emergency services in general and is open to all posters, whether they are serving / former members of an emergency service, prospective members or just have an interest. That said, if a member makes false claims as to their membership of a service this will result in an immediate and permanent ban.

RoverJames wrote: »

Well lads, we'll see what happens, lol at the claims of fitness etc, the amount of obese and lacking in stature gardai out there is alarming, particularly amongst the females. For Gardai what is the current regime on routine fitness testing??? (I don't expect anyone will answer that) I don't expect the patrons of this forum to agree, ye all want to p1ss off and retire after 30 years full service. A total reform of existing rostering etc needs to be done.

Of course I have been accused of saying the 68 year olds should be on the street and doing a week of nights :rolleyes:

I know quite a few folk who are over 60 who are well able to handle themselves, to a level far greater than a few hours batton training in Templemore provides.

Typical Gardai reckoning ye are Jackie Chan hard men, the average Garda couldn't drop a hard sh1t unless they have taken up some extra training on their own time.

I was going to highlight the trolling aspects of the above post but I dont think there is any need really.

"Lol at the claims of fitness.....piss off after 30 years......average garda couldnt drop a hard sh1t......."

RoverJames you are infracted for breach of the forum charter by using bad language.

Further to that you are banned from the ES forum for two weeks for trolling the ES forum. The comments and attitude in your post may be acceptable in other forums but this is an ES forum, full of ES personnel and those with an interest......your only obvious reason for posting is to troll the thread.

If you decide to repost after your ban please do so without trolling or it will become a perma ban.

Thanks

NGA

Chusko wrote: »

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2011-09-21.1039.0&s=garda+retirement


Looks like maximum age will be 60 for gardai,have to retire then

From that page

"Of course members with 30 years service may retire on a full pension at any time once they reach 50 years of age, for those who joined prior to 2004, or 55 years of age for those who joined since then."

This is the first I've read of the 55 years minimum retirement age for those who joined after 2004. No mention of it on the GRA site either.

Can anyone clarify?

If someone joins between the ages of 30 and 35, and has to retire at the age of 60 (compulsory?), does it mean they do not qualify for the garda pension? I'm asking because I don't know if it's 30 years of service that entitles you to the pension.