thinking of building a slatted shed

#32 20-02-2011 04:48PM

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reilig wrote: »

Yea, but the area also contains a 30ft crush and is used as a roofed holding yard too. The calves can be restricted to 1 or 2 pens of we so desire.

so its a bigger creep than average ?

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#33 20-02-2011 06:14PM

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irishh_bob wrote: »

so its a bigger creep than average ?

I don't know. What is the average creep size? Its the same size of creep as most farmers have around here anyway.

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#34 20-02-2011 06:16PM

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vanderbadger wrote: »

how do you manage the sawdust reilig, do you get a lorry load and tip in shed and how long would it last, my calves to into a creep area on straw and i find it needs cleaning every 2 days..

Neighbour with a joinery. Can bring a transport box full out of it every week which keeps the creep up to spec.

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#35 20-02-2011 06:36PM

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reilig wrote: »

Neighbour with a joinery. Can bring a transport box full out of it every week which keeps the creep up to spec.

handy

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#36 21-02-2011 02:21AM

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I contacted REPS Teasgasc advisor, and we talked on phone. I find him always very helpful and accommodating. Teasgasc also have plans available, but it the analysis and experience im looking for here.

I have 43 acres, but can keep far less stock over the winter than what i can grass in the summer, owing to my layout being a old open slurry pit, next to an open yard and a 24 cubicle house, and three colum haybarn and silage slab.

My Teagasc advisor can't really help with the plans, it down to me on how many cattle i want to winter, however he did advise an open shed. i think the A type double sheds look a neater more finished job, but accept his opinion that cattle need air, and a half type single shed is the way to go in this regard which would seem to concur with "reilig" and "david1992" comments.

No i havent even thought of mats, at this stage im trying to decide on the actual shed and tank, but mats are a good idea alright, you cant beat comfort.

Im going to build it in stages, first and foremost is the tank, the bigger the better?? the bigger the more value too?? and you cant beat storage?? The way i see it is the wider the slat on any give tank increases storage with little additional cost in width wise and slat wise, and no additional cost in length or depth. so the wider the slat the better?

Owing to the fact i will prob be building the tank and fitting slats, and not finishing shed until next year or the year after, i will def. be going for 14' 6" slats, as they are the widest tractor slat available, can anyone confirm this??? as im thinking of putting tank in the yard inbetween the cubicle house and open slurry tank, or digging out the open slurry tank and putting tank there, either way, until its finished and i have the cows and/or cattle over the slats in pins and feeding barriers up, i can clean the yard in the traditional way by tractor and yard scrapper, but instead of pushing it up the slurry pit ramp, i can pull and push it over the slats....will this work??? i obviously need tractor slats, but will it make it way through them in fairly large volumes, also as the tank and slats will be outside, will rain water be much of a factor?

Now prices...... got price from Croom Concrete on tractor slats for 3 bay - 4053 plus VAT two ag points outside the building, and 5022 plus VAT on a 4 bay again two ag points outside the building, these slats rated to take 10 tonne........( didnt haggle with them yet, price off the cuff on the phone) GOOD PRICE??? i will ring creagh concrete Thankyou for telling me.

Concrete, got two quotes for 35N, 57 per cubic meter and 63 per cubic meter. quite a difference here, is there a difference in quality? strength? or are they all the same, one can test the loads anyway - is this test hard to do? I will price Mcgraths next.

No price on steel, who does steel, and how much of it do i want, and what size strength and spec.

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#37 21-02-2011 08:13AM

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small famer wrote: »

I contacted REPS Teasgasc advisor, and we talked on phone. I find him always very helpful and accommodating. Teasgasc also have plans available, but it the analysis and experience im looking for here.

I have 43 acres, but can keep far less stock over the winter than what i can grass in the summer, owing to my layout being a old open slurry pit, next to an open yard and a 24 cubicle house, and three colum haybarn and silage slab.

My Teagasc advisor can't really help with the plans, it down to me on how many cattle i want to winter, however he did advise an open shed. i think the A type double sheds look a neater more finished job, but accept his opinion that cattle need air, and a half type single shed is the way to go in this regard which would seem to concur with "reilig" and "david1992" comments.

No i havent even thought of mats, at this stage im trying to decide on the actual shed and tank, but mats are a good idea alright, you cant beat comfort.

Im going to build it in stages, first and foremost is the tank, the bigger the better?? the bigger the more value too?? and you cant beat storage?? The way i see it is the wider the slat on any give tank increases storage with little additional cost in width wise and slat wise, and no additional cost in length or depth. so the wider the slat the better?

Owing to the fact i will prob be building the tank and fitting slats, and not finishing shed until next year or the year after, i will def. be going for 14' 6" slats, as they are the widest tractor slat available, can anyone confirm this??? as im thinking of putting tank in the yard inbetween the cubicle house and open slurry tank, or digging out the open slurry tank and putting tank there, either way, until its finished and i have the cows and/or cattle over the slats in pins and feeding barriers up, i can clean the yard in the traditional way by tractor and yard scrapper, but instead of pushing it up the slurry pit ramp, i can pull and push it over the slats....will this work??? i obviously need tractor slats, but will it make it way through them in fairly large volumes, also as the tank and slats will be outside, will rain water be much of a factor?

Now prices...... got price from Croom Concrete on tractor slats for 3 bay - 4053 plus VAT two ag points outside the building, and 5022 plus VAT on a 4 bay again two ag points outside the building, these slats rated to take 10 tonne........( didnt haggle with them yet, price off the cuff on the phone) GOOD PRICE??? i will ring creagh concrete Thankyou for telling me.

Concrete, got two quotes for 35N, 57 per cubic meter and 63 per cubic meter. quite a difference here, is there a difference in quality? strength? or are they all the same, one can test the loads anyway - is this test hard to do? I will price Mcgraths next.

No price on steel, who does steel, and how much of it do i want, and what size strength and spec.

we used to have an open slurry tank that the cubicle house was scraped into, build the shed where the slurry tank used to be, the cows can still use the cubicle shed to lie down and it can be scraped onto slats..sounds similar enough to what you have

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#38 07-09-2011 08:21PM

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I got out the camera and took a few snaps around the farm this evening. This is my 'calf creep' setup. As you can see it's a cubicle bed that once had 4 cubicles to the back of the slatted pen. I took these out and stuck in these double bars. They hinge on the left and can be opened in to the wall where a small gate can be opened (behind the pillar)and cows directed out the door (pictured) and into the crush if needs be.

There is also a water bowl set down low in the left hand corner

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#39 13-10-2011 11:50AM

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im thinking of build a shed for 15 suckler cows anybody with any ideas on kinda shed to build our prices this would be?? cows are sping calving

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#40 13-10-2011 07:33PM

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small famer wrote: »

Have dry stock at the moment, but thinking of getting into Sucklers, say 20 cows, thus 20 calfs, thus another 20 weanlings.......maybe selling off the weanlings, but gauging myself to keep all stock to beef......

What size tank(s)
What design of shed?

3 or 4 bay? single or double design? size of slats, and pins and what stocking density can each pin hold.......

self feed silage .. kennells 300 eu per cow place and a lagoon... we built one for 16 k net for 400000 gals but you wont need that size.rem drystock is non profit.

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#41 13-10-2011 09:10PM

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so for that kinda money(14k you said ?) what do you get ?? would like to put in area for calves and possible a crush ?? open or closed shed which is better to go with???

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#42 13-10-2011 09:41PM

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Black Cat 1976 wrote: »

so for that kinda money(14k you said ?) what do you get ?? would like to put in area for calves and possible a crush ?? open or closed shed which is better to go with???

this is what I'm building at the moment
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72378372

e9800 +vat has the tank in, 3 bay with 1 agitation point so 53ft long, 14ft 6 slat included, 300 mm wall with 30N concrete. This price was inclusive of cost of tank dug out and steel in tank.
Pricin shed now

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#43 13-10-2011 10:46PM

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small famer wrote: »

I contacted REPS Teasgasc advisor, and we talked on phone. I find him always very helpful and accommodating. Teasgasc also have plans available, but it the analysis and experience im looking for here.

I have 43 acres, but can keep far less stock over the winter than what i can grass in the summer, owing to my layout being a old open slurry pit, next to an open yard and a 24 cubicle house, and three colum haybarn and silage slab.

My Teagasc advisor can't really help with the plans, it down to me on how many cattle i want to winter, however he did advise an open shed. i think the A type double sheds look a neater more finished job, but accept his opinion that cattle need air, and a half type single shed is the way to go in this regard which would seem to concur with "reilig" and "david1992" comments.

No i havent even thought of mats, at this stage im trying to decide on the actual shed and tank, but mats are a good idea alright, you cant beat comfort.

Im going to build it in stages, first and foremost is the tank, the bigger the better?? the bigger the more value too?? and you cant beat storage?? The way i see it is the wider the slat on any give tank increases storage with little additional cost in width wise and slat wise, and no additional cost in length or depth. so the wider the slat the better?

Owing to the fact i will prob be building the tank and fitting slats, and not finishing shed until next year or the year after, i will def. be going for 14' 6" slats, as they are the widest tractor slat available, can anyone confirm this??? as im thinking of putting tank in the yard inbetween the cubicle house and open slurry tank, or digging out the open slurry tank and putting tank there, either way, until its finished and i have the cows and/or cattle over the slats in pins and feeding barriers up, i can clean the yard in the traditional way by tractor and yard scrapper, but instead of pushing it up the slurry pit ramp, i can pull and push it over the slats....will this work??? i obviously need tractor slats, but will it make it way through them in fairly large volumes, also as the tank and slats will be outside, will rain water be much of a factor?

Now prices...... got price from Croom Concrete on tractor slats for 3 bay - 4053 plus VAT two ag points outside the building, and 5022 plus VAT on a 4 bay again two ag points outside the building, these slats rated to take 10 tonne........( didnt haggle with them yet, price off the cuff on the phone) GOOD PRICE??? i will ring creagh concrete Thankyou for telling me.

Concrete, got two quotes for 35N, 57 per cubic meter and 63 per cubic meter. quite a difference here, is there a difference in quality? strength? or are they all the same, one can test the loads anyway - is this test hard to do? I will price Mcgraths next.

No price on steel, who does steel, and how much of it do i want, and what size strength and spec.

Cover your existing open tank with slats and stick a shed on top. simples. cheap what more could you ask for, most of the work is done already, hole dug, floor in and external wall for tank(of course it would have to be mass concrete)

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#44 13-10-2011 10:51PM

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johnpawl wrote: »

this is what I'm building at the moment
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72378372

e9800 +vat has the tank in, 3 bay with 1 agitation point so 53ft long, 14ft 6 slat included, 300 mm wall with 30N concrete. This price was inclusive of cost of tank dug out and steel in tank.
Pricin shed now

Be careful, devious county councils will only accept dept spec work if constructing new tanks and that would be 35n concrete. Best also to get and engineer to sign off on completed tanks so as you have a bit of paper to wave at an official who looks for integrity tests of tanks. Unfortunately I have being down this road

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#45 14-10-2011 09:30AM

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what do you think it will be all in all by the time your finished ?? will you be building a basic shed ??? was hoping to put in crush and 3 caving pins ??

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#46 15-10-2011 07:59PM

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bob charles wrote: »

Be careful, devious county councils will only accept dept spec work if constructing new tanks and that would be 35n concrete. Best also to get and engineer to sign off on completed tanks so as you have a bit of paper to wave at an official who looks for integrity tests of tanks. Unfortunately I have being down this road

Fek, never heard of anything like that, what county are you in?

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#47 06-11-2011 04:59PM

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hi thinking about building a slatted shed in the new year anyone out there any idea how much it will cost. looking to do something nice with caving creep area. hoping to put in caving gates and a crush its a 3 bay open shed the best option ???? any help and ideas would be great thanks:)

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#48 11-11-2011 12:30PM

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