VSA warning light, 05 Accord

JHMEG · 07-03-2010 11:27AM

The last couple of digits in all those part numbers is a revision number. So the part will still be the same, but a newer revision (that's why I said leave it off when googling:))

How much did the "new" unit cost you, as a matter of interest?

Gun_Slinger · 07-03-2010 10:56PM

"New" unit cost 150 euro, was quoted between 200 and 250 from different breakers for the old one. 3 hours labour plus vat and the total was just under 400 altogether. Better than the original 2K I was quoted anyway!

Gun_Slinger · 14-10-2010 03:59PM

Resurrecting this post as this light has come on again

Brought it back to the dealer and they said the new one I put in was shot again. I really dont think that lightening could strike twice for something like this (could it)???

Any other Honda owners come across this and fix it without replacing the VSA unit?

omb0wyn5ehpij9 · 14-10-2010 04:08PM

Gun_Slinger wrote: »

Resurrecting this post as this light has come on again

Brought it back to the dealer and they said the new one I put in was shot again. I really dont think that lightening could strike twice for something like this (could it)???

Any other Honda owners come across this and fix it without replacing the VSA unit?

If it is the part that is faulty I would be going back to Honda about it.

But it sounds like something else could be causing it.....

Gryzor · 14-10-2010 09:26PM

If you're not happy with the dealer, contact Hoda Ireland directly.
I've an imported 04 diesel accord. Theres an extended warranty on the exhaust manifold, it cracks. In the UK, if you bring your car in and they diagnose a cracked manifold, its replaced free of charge, end of story.
Brough mine to my local dealer, and was told'd they cover the part and 3 hours labour, but not the other 3-4 hours labour. Long story short i rang Honda Ireland, told yerman my story, no arguing, i'd say the call lasted about 2 minutes. 20 minutes later the dealer rang me back and said the job was covered...:)
I'll route out the number if you need it..

gibbon75 · 15-10-2010 07:30AM

Bryn wrote: »

If it is the part that is faulty I would be going back to Honda about it.

But it sounds like something else could be causing it.....

How would Honda cover a second hand part?

And btw the last part of a Honda part number isn't always just a revision...

gibbon75 · 15-10-2010 07:37AM

Gryzor wrote: »

If you're not happy with the dealer, contact Hoda Ireland directly.
I've an imported 04 diesel accord. Theres an extended warranty on the exhaust manifold, it cracks. In the UK, if you bring your car in and they diagnose a cracked manifold, its replaced free of charge, end of story.

There's no extended warranty on the manifold (only on the timing chain).
Honda UK is part of the global Honda operation,where Honda Ireland is a privately owned importer (with a lot lesser rights and options...).
So they have to pay from their own pockets for those manifolds (unless the car is still under factory warranty).I'd say fair play to Honda Ireland,as pretty much every early diesel Accord imported from the UK has this issue with the manifold...
I wonder which other importer would do the same?

omb0wyn5ehpij9 · 15-10-2010 08:42AM

gibbon75 wrote: »

How would Honda cover a second hand part?

And btw the last part of a Honda part number isn't always just a revision...

Read it wrong, thought he had bought a brand new part

Gryzor · 15-10-2010 08:47AM

gibbon75 wrote: »

There's no extended warranty on the manifold (only on the timing chain).

Definitely is a warranty extension on the manifold, the guys on thaoc had the Honda bulliten posted up, thats where i found out about it...their site went tits up a few months back, can't find it now...

gibbon75 wrote: »

Honda UK is part of the global Honda operation,where Honda Ireland is a privately owned importer (with a lot lesser rights and options...).
So they have to pay from their own pockets for those manifolds (unless the car is still under factory warranty).I'd say fair play to Honda Ireland,as pretty much every early diesel Accord imported from the UK has this issue with the manifold...
I wonder which other importer would do the same?

Interesting info, hadn't realised that. I've found them great so far. They also honoured another warranty extension for me, the headlights let in moisture. Got them replaced free of charge aswell
Are you making a distinction between UK an Irish diesels with regards to the manifold issue?? Do they not come from the same source??

Gun_Slinger · 15-10-2010 11:24AM

Yea, the manifold is cracked in my one as well. Dealer is covering that too.

Pain in the arse with the VSA light. Seen a few threads online where it was actually the brake sensor that was misaligned and this caused the light to go on.

gibbon75 · 15-10-2010 01:49PM

Gryzor,

Actually you were correct,there is an extended 7 years warranty on the manifold since 29-06-09 (somehow I've skipped that bulletin,just checked it again...),but it's limited to 200 000kms/125 000mls.

Regarding the manifold:the UK and irish models were fitted with the same part,but somehow the UK ones are more troublesome.Or at least that's our experience,so don't take that granted

There was a recall on the headlights due the moisture problem,where we had to replace the clips holding the glass in place.

Gryzor · 11-11-2010 04:42PM

Honda apparently just issued an extended warranty on this.....taken from the new thaoc site...only upto 62,000 miles though..

TSB Bulletin No SK-07-007-00 dated 01-11-2010

This is only applicable to i-CTDI engines.

Models Affected
ACCORD 4D CN1 05, 06, 07, 08
ACCORD TOURER CN2 05, 06, 07, 08
CIVIC 5D EV1 05
CR-V RD8 05, 06
CR-V I-CTDI RD9 05, 06

Symptom
VSA light on, DTC 66-1 is stored.

Cause
Open circuit in the VSA modulator pressure sensor due to a production fault at the supplier .

Application: Warranty extension +3 years; mileage up to 62,000 miles

Any high mileage car will not be entertained .. So anyone how has suddenly seen this issue , please contact your dealer provided you are with the time frame and mileage.

BoosterMT · 05-09-2011 10:02AM

Hi Gibbon75, Hope you are well.

I see you know some bits and bobs re: the Accord VSA and I am wondering whether you can be ever so kind in helping me out.

I own a Honda Accord 2005 ICDTI model. I got the VSA errors:

66-01 Brake Pressure Sensor Malfunction
84-01 Sensor Logic Malfunction

My part number is 57110-SEF-E56. However I only seem to find the part 57110-SEF-E55. Would this part number fit in my car and does this part number have the VSA functionality in it?

I see you sell parts yourself. Do you have any in stock by any chance?

Your geniune help is truly appreciated. I live in Malta and Honda Malta does not want to help (typical) hence why I need to buy it from UK.

Mattthew Sciberras

gibbon75 wrote: »

We have replaced about 6-7 noisy/snapped timing chains on imported diesel Accords in the past year.We had one 3 weeks ago where the chain went at motor way speeds,so the turbo,oil pump,crankshaft,bearings etc. were fecked due the oil starvation.
There's a good reason why Honda recommends only the best quality 0w30 oil,but most people prefer to save 20 Euro per service....even in the UK.

gibbon75 · 05-09-2011 08:24PM

Matthew,

It would more likely fit,but I'll check on that number tomorrow just be on the safe side.
We don't stock VSA units and we can source only brand new ones off Honda.

I'll get back to you soon.

BoosterMT · 06-09-2011 09:46AM

Thanks Gibbon - Your help is very much appreciated. Im eagerly waiting for your reply.

Matt

gibbon75 · 07-09-2011 05:32PM

Matthew,

If you are looking for a 2nd hand VSA module,the following ones would do for your car:

57110-SEF-E55 (2004 Accord)
57110-SEF-E56 (2005 Accord)
57110-SEF-E61 (2006-2008 Accord)

You would be better off with the E61 one,as the early ones doesn't seem to last.
Unless you can pick up an E55 or E56 one for small money.

BoosterMT · 08-09-2011 09:51AM

Many Thanks Gibbons.

So if though the 2006 is a CN2 it should fit! I will start looking at the 2006 part number.

Your help has been really great mate! You have no idea how happy I am!

Cheers and Good day.

Matt

gibbon75 · 08-09-2011 05:24PM

Good luck with the hunt Matthew and I'm glad I could help

BoosterMT · 14-09-2011 09:25AM

Hi Gibbon

I have managed to find an ABS unit with part number 57110-SEF-E610-M1 from a 2007 Honda Accord with 43k miles for £275!

My mechanic will be fixing it next week. Any tips I should tell the mechanic on how to assemble it? Does he need a ECU reset or something of the sort?

Thanks

Matthew

gibbon75 · 14-09-2011 09:25PM

Hi Matthew,

I'm glad it worked out cheap(ish)

The VSA unit is a bit of a pig to get to: it is buried below a loads of stuff,so tell him to be prepared for bleeding knuckles

It is a good idea to clear the stored fault codes by resetting the ECU.

BoosterMT · 27-09-2011 02:20PM

Hi Gibbon.

I recieved the Unit and we have replaced it. The unit is of 2007, 57110-SEF-E61. (mine is a 2005).

Previously I had the following errors:

66-01 Brake Pressure Sensor Malfunction
84-01 Sensor Logic Malfunction

After the unit has been changed i got this error only:

66-01 Brake Pressure Sensor Malfunction

I have tried removing the error with the computer but we could not manage. The 66-01 error kept popping up even with the new Unit.

Do I have to do anything? Do I have to take the car to Honda and they reformat my ECU? The VSA warning light is still on, so far it seems that Im still in the same scenario, just a couple of hundreds less in my account.

Maybe this is another error I need to sort out?

Matt

gibbon75 · 28-09-2011 01:21PM

Matt,

We never fitted used VSAs here,but upon fitting a new one the 66-01 code clears off straight away and the 84-01 remains,as you have to code the new module to the ECU.I've quized our Honda master tech and he said he never had to clear the 66-01 manually.The 84-01 code is gone,because you module is a 2nd hand one and that was already paired to an ECU.
This indicates that the fault code is stored in the module itself,rather than in the ECU.
You can try to disconnect both battery leads and join'em together for a 15-20 minutes (this would reset the ECU),but I'm afraid that 2nd hand VSA module might be faulty.

BoosterMT · 03-10-2011 11:07AM

Hi -

I have confirmed with Malta Honda that the part is bust. Will be sending the part to UK and getting it replaced. I hope that this time the part works well.

Thanks for your time.

Matt

Sergio · 03-11-2011 07:48PM

Gryzor wrote: »

Honda apparently just issued an extended warranty on this.....taken from the new thaoc site...only upto 62,000 miles though..

Hi folks

I bought an Accord i CTDI a few months ago and this VSA light came on in my car yesterday morning when i started the engine.Its a 08 accord and i was wondering if i will be able to get this covered under this warranty extension or is it only applicable for the uk.
The car is not an import but a registered Irish bought model and theres only 38000 miles (62000km) on the clock.

Gryzor · 04-11-2011 12:57AM

Go through a dealer, if you get fobbed off, try Honda Ireland directly...if you've a good case, they should sort you out...

BoosterMT · 23-11-2011 04:19PM

So - The SAGA continues. I flew the part back to UK (I live in Malta) and got it replaced with a 2007 ABS unit. We connected this new ABS unit and guess what -the same errors remianed.

I am now certain that the issue is not coming from the ABS unit. It cannot be that after 3 ABS units, i still get the same error codes:

66-01 Brake Pressure Sensor Malfunction
84-01 Sensor Logic Malfunction

I am really done with this car. I dunno what else to try.

Matthew

Pegs595 · 01-05-2012 03:02PM

I think I'm going to cry after reading this thread.

Surely there must be some way of overriding the light? I'm not worried that it doesn't work, it's more about failing the NCT.

I have an 05 2.2 CDTi with a VSA light on. I wonder if the NCT testers check that the light comes on prior to the car starting and then goes out?

paultronix · 01-05-2012 11:28PM

rather than using a used unit on these cars i would recommend sending your own one to this company for a permanent repair as the brake pressure sensor is a known weakness in these modules and at least this way the problem is ridden for good and will cost you a fraction of the price of a new part which is likely to give the same fault in years to come,i think the repair is approximately 200stg,the only downfall is that they're based in nottingham uk but if posted on a monday using a courier you should expect to have it back by that friday.
google this site:-www.ecutesting.com

just to add that i have used this company before for the same fault and can strongly recommend them,and no i'm not on commission....
hope this helps to ease the pain,
regards.

carbon nanotube · 02-05-2012 02:42AM

just been reading this as i got a 2004 executive, i had the light on also after a mech screwed up a abs sensor.

it was fixed with a new sensor on and a ecu reset

i think many of these modules are 'paired' to specific cars, ie: hard wired

when you mix and match different units it doesn't always work out, that's my take

i think honda got an awful lot to answer with the mess they have made of this tbh.

audidiesel · 02-05-2012 04:43AM

i got a new abs module fitted in my 05 diesel executive spec from a vw of all things a month ago. cost me 500 quid all in. but its fixed my vsa problem and its working perfectly ever since

VSA warning light, 05 Accord

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