any remedies for redwater ground

LostCovey · 24-07-2011 08:40PM

reps4 wrote: »

Hi,

Have redwater ground also, have a few questions/comments..

Use bayticol, still approx 1/5 will get affected.

1. can calves get infected, only ever had it in suckler cows.

No cattle can't get it until they are about 6 months old

2. can animals get immune to Baytical

No but ticks can get resistant to any product that is heavily used. Haven't heard of it with Bayticol

3. how do animals get immune to the tick? can licks etc help do this

No licks won't help, but if they get redwater (or if they get bitten and infected while protected by Imizol) they can become resistant for life - so preventive use of Imizol is probably a better strategy for heavily infested land than Bayticol

4. wonder would spray kill the tick.

Nothing that is currently available. They are well protected because they live at the base of the grass for most of the year, and only some of them will climb up the grass in the spring and autumn when they are looking for a victim.

Thanks.

You're welcome

LostCovey

mjcom4d · 24-07-2011 09:01PM

Bizzum wrote: »

mjcom4d wrote: »

Something in the journal a few weeks back said something about blood transfusion

Was this in relation to red water?
I've seen several transfusions in my time, grand when they work, but I seen them fail miserably too after all the work.
I think a transfusion is really a last resort.

Yea it was on about redwater and the murrain I think you can vaccinate against it if you've got muirrain land when you buy in cattle

Good loser · 25-07-2011 10:27PM

Grandad had land taken in Roscommon in the thirties and had plenty redwater; herder would notify him by telegram of a loss.
Was cured by stocking the place with horses one Winter. They grazed it so tight all the ticks died. Don't know about the horses!

greysides · 27-07-2011 11:23PM

what happen wrote: »

the blackleg vaccine covers a redwater strain and a sheep farmer was telling me the jeyes fluid is not as good as it use to be he used it to kill the maggots on the sheep.

LostCovey wrote: »

Different type of redwater altogether, that cows get after they calve in some parts of Munster, not the kind ticks carry.

LC

Just to tidy up a few points:

Redwater = Bovine Haemoglobinuria = Babesiosis = disease transfered from ticks.

Bacillary Haemoglobinuria = bacterial disease caused by a member of the Clostridium family, in the Clostridial vaccine.

Post-parturient Haemoglobinuria= Phosphorus deficiency caused, occurs after calving.

LostCovey · 28-07-2011 05:31AM

greysides wrote: »

Just to tidy up a few points:

Redwater = Bovine Haemoglobinuria = Babesiosis = disease transfered from ticks.

Bacillary Haemoglobinuria = bacterial disease caused by a member of the Clostridium family, in the Clostridial vaccine.

Post-parturient Haemoglobinuria= Phosphorus deficiency caused, occurs after calving.

Thanks Greysides you're quite right, I have never had either of the last 2 types and I mixed them up.

LC

the al kid · 28-07-2011 07:33AM

A n uncle of mine had a big stretch of land rented that was undergrazed for years when he took it over-he had about 70-80% rates of
redwater in the cattle he put on it .Ended up using Imazol as a preventative which worked quite well.He grazed it very tightly with sheep the following winter and restocked with cattle the following spring.He was going to give the cattle Imazol again when he was introducing new cattle back into the land but his vet told him to wait for the first case and then give the Imazol.The strange thing is he had no redwater that year .He had the land for many years ,grazed tight with sheep for the winter and redwater problem disappeared.This backs up what conflats and other posters have said.but the grazing tight during the winter allows the ticks to die off.In my view horses are selective grazers and will allow some areas of long tufty grass to survive.

Al

any remedies for redwater ground

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