leinster academy

rugbybuff · 10-07-2011 08:45PM

Quint2010 wrote: »

Well i think there was 3 players representing Terenure who had moved from Clongowes and Newbridge at the start of the year

yes your right two from newbridge mathew madigan and billy dardis and one from clongowes david doyle.

WeeBushy · 10-07-2011 10:44PM

David Doyle went to gonzaga.

streings · 10-07-2011 11:02PM

WeeBushy wrote: »

David Doyle went to gonzaga.

Different David Doyle, dude.

kerrysdad · 12-07-2011 03:54PM

David Doyle was captain of the CWC JCT in 2010/2011

kerrysdad · 12-07-2011 03:59PM

thebaz wrote: »

was Coughlan not supposed to be coming a pro cricketer ? or am i thinking of someone else ?

Jordan Coughlan could end up playing rugby for Leinster and cricket for Ireland he is that good.

Quint2010 · 12-07-2011 04:20PM

kerrysdad wrote: »

David Doyle was captain of the CWC JCT in 2010/2011

Think you mean the 09/10 team

bamboozle · 13-07-2011 08:06AM

kerrysdad wrote: »

Jordan Coughlan could end up playing rugby for Leinster and cricket for Ireland he is that good.

he plays Cricket for Clontarf so i'm hoping he'll be playing rugby with Clontarf also. Anyone know where he's from, heard he's from Cork???

CIARAN_BOYLE · 13-07-2011 08:47AM

bamboozle wrote: »

he plays Cricket for Clontarf so i'm hoping he'll be playing rugby with Clontarf also. Anyone know where he's from, heard he's from Cork???

I think his parents are from cork but he is from somewhere in leinster

Quint2010 · 13-07-2011 09:18AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I think his parents are from cork but he is from somewhere in leinster

Raheny

Amazotheamazing · 13-07-2011 10:57AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I think his parents are from cork but he is from somewhere in leinster

Think they moved back to Cork when he was young enough, sickening poach etc.

thebaz · 13-07-2011 04:02PM

rugbybuff wrote: »

yes your right two from newbridge mathew madigan and billy dardis and one from clongowes david doyle.

is it poaching ? - if so , is it so vital that terenure win the cup - takes away from the whole value of winning the cup IMO - and probably unstabilises the squad -

jolley123 · 13-07-2011 04:06PM

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Think they moved back to Cork when he was young enough, sickening poach etc.

Disgusting isn't it.

bamboozle · 13-07-2011 04:24PM

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Think they moved back to Cork when he was young enough, sickening poach etc.

he's obviously been living up in Dublin if he's been playing cricket with clontarf, hope he signs up with clontarf rugby and we'll see him in AIL next season.

Quint2010 · 14-07-2011 06:29PM

thebaz wrote: »

is it poaching ? - if so , is it so vital that terenure win the cup - takes away from the whole value of winning the cup IMO - and probably unstabilises the squad -

I seriously doubt if Terenure poached those players as that squad walked the junior cup in 2010 without them. Besides Blackrock have been poaching players for decades

GerM · 14-07-2011 07:22PM

Poaching has gone on for a long time. Players are actively recruited/encouraged to attend a certain school. Harris-Wright was in a tug of war between Michaels and Blackrock after setting the world alight for Pres Bray in the JCT. Donncha O'Callaghan was recruited by CBC. Danny Barnes moved to Munchins from Tralee for his final year I believe. It happens. Not very savoury but if a family/player is offered a spot in an exclusive school or a better chance at winning silverware they'll consider it.

jolley123 · 14-07-2011 08:09PM

It's so rare though that it's hardly worth talking about. A senior cup schools team might contain at most 2 players who have been "poached". I came across it once in my school, and the poached player only ended up making the thirds. I think most of the poaching thing is just myths and rumours spread around the place.

Like once, there was a rumour that Artemiev was lured to Blackrock College for his rugby skills, which is just laughable.

Gyalist · 14-07-2011 08:42PM

kerrysdad wrote: »

Jordan Coughlan could end up playing rugby for Leinster and cricket for Ireland he is that good.

Not going to happen. These days the seasons for both sports are so long that it's impossible.

Jordan was supposed to be one of the opening bowlers for Ireland in the U-19 World Cup qualifiers next month but is now unable to play since he signed the academy contract. He is being allowed to play league cricket for Clontarf this season but not to represent Ireland. So with Coghlan out and Shane Getkate recovering from illness, the Irish selectors are looking for replacement fast bowlers. They were certainly paying close attention to the Leinster Schools v Ulster Schools match two weeks ago.

bamboozle · 15-07-2011 08:08AM

jolley123 wrote: »

It's so rare though that it's hardly worth talking about. A senior cup schools team might contain at most 2 players who have been "poached". I came across it once in my school, and the poached player only ended up making the thirds. I think most of the poaching thing is just myths and rumours spread around the place.

Like once, there was a rumour that Artemiev was lured to Blackrock College for his rugby skills, which is just laughable.

i'd always have thought when it comes to poaching Blackrock and Michael's leave everyone else in their wake, I remember the irish schools dream team had a young pres bray winger Dowling on the team, he was poached by Michaels, the same year Aiden Kearney was poached from Paul's by Michael's also.

Apparently Ian McKinley was targeted by Rock several times but he wanted to stay in Columba's with his mates.

GerM · 15-07-2011 09:02AM

bamboozle wrote: »

the same year Aiden Kearney was poached from Paul's by Michael's also.

Joke was on Michael's when they realised they had to feed him as part of the deal. :pac:

kerrysdad · 15-07-2011 11:03AM

Quint2010 wrote: »

Think you mean the 09/10 team

mea culpa

jolley123 · 15-07-2011 11:55AM

bamboozle wrote: »

i'd always have thought when it comes to poaching Blackrock and Michael's leave everyone else in their wake, I remember the irish schools dream team had a young pres bray winger Dowling on the team, he was poached by Michaels, the same year Aiden Kearney was poached from Paul's by Michael's also.

Apparently Ian McKinley was targeted by Rock several times but he wanted to stay in Columba's with his mates.

Nah, it's really over-done to be honest. One little rumour spreads like wild-fire. I can't tell you the amount of big-headed players I've met, who claim to have been "targeted" by Rock, Michaels and the like.(Not that McKinley is big-headed).
I'm sure schools like Rock and Michaels do try and lure good players to their schools from time to time but it's too rare to be an issue. If you look at Rocks 2010 team, it was made up of players who had been in the school since age 7/8. There were 2 guys from Sligo but they were from GAA backgrounds. Then if you look at Rocks 2009 cup winning side, it's the same story. It's not as if poaching is what wins them cups.

Either way, Leinster signing Coghlan is pretty un-related to poaching. He played his rugby in the Leinster set-up and wants to play with Leister, so I can't see how it remotely resembles poaching.

roycon · 15-07-2011 02:32PM

most famous poach who made a huge differnence was aiden wynne. from marist(i think) to blackrock. took the kicks and distributed well at centre. they needed him that year in a backline with lukey fitz, artemiev, niall morris, dave moore, ian madigan,dave fitzpatrick, to name a few against a belevedere team who had cian healy, ian keatley, eoin omalley and paul odonoghue.

vinny chase · 15-07-2011 02:41PM

roycon wrote: »

most famous poach who made a huge differnence was aiden wynne. from marist(i think) to blackrock. took the kicks and distributed well at centre. they needed him that year in a backline with lukey fitz, artemiev, niall morris, dave moore, ian madigan,dave fitzpatrick, to name a few against a belevedere team who had cian healy, ian keatley, eoin omalley and paul odonoghue.

He came from St. Saran's in Ferbane, where he won a Connacht Senior Cup for them too. Must be one of a handful of people to have won Schools' Senior Cups in two different provinces.

Think he was recently released by Connacht, he's struggled a lot with injuries in the last few years. Very talented player though.

Amazotheamazing · 15-07-2011 06:50PM

vinny chase wrote: »

He came from St. Saran's in Ferbane, where he won a Connacht Senior Cup for them too. Must be one of a handful of people to have won Schools' Senior Cups in two different provinces.

Think he was recently released by Connacht, he's struggled a lot with injuries in the last few years. Very talented player though.

Always wondered if he'd ever step up, I think Bradley ruined him tbh. Where's he off to now?

vinny chase · 16-07-2011 07:29AM

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Always wondered if he'd ever step up, I think Bradley ruined him tbh. Where's he off to now?

Haven't heard anything yet. I know he was working with an agent back around May with a view to trying to find something in France. He'll probably get something out there like a lot of lads have done having left the Connacht Academy, especially as he has a lot more experience in the Senior side than lads like Sean Carey & David McGowan would have had going out there.

bamboozle · 16-07-2011 08:16AM

vinny chase wrote: »

Haven't heard anything yet. I know he was working with an agent back around May with a view to trying to find something in France. He'll probably get something out there like a lot of lads have done having left the Connacht Academy, especially as he has a lot more experience in the Senior side than lads like Sean Carey & David McGowan would have had going out there.

great user name!

Wynne should have no problem picking up something in France or the 2nd division in England.

rugby_fan · 07-08-2011 03:04PM

Anyone know any players that are in the sub academy!?

Hagz · 07-08-2011 03:11PM

rugby_fan wrote: »

Anyone know any players that are in the sub academy!?

David Quirke.
I would imagine the Byrne twins are there too, along with Conor McEllin. Difficult to know when they don't put anything up about it on the site.

Quint2010 · 07-08-2011 03:22PM

rugby_fan wrote: »

Anyone know any players that are in the sub academy!?

Not sure what the sub academy is exactly but I can only assume its an age group under the academy. The first year of the academy contains players the year after they have left school. So if thats true then last years Leinster U17's will be this years sub academy. The U17's won a tournament in Perpignon in May and contained 8 players from Terenure including Harrison Brewer, Stephen O'Neill and Billy Dardis. Also in the squad were Jack O'Neill from Castleknock, Nick McCarthy from Clongowes and Dan Leavy from St.Michaels.

danthefan · 07-08-2011 03:30PM

Quint2010 wrote: »

Not sure what the sub academy is exactly but I can only assume its an age group under the academy. The first year of the academy contains players the year after they have left school. So if thats true then last years Leinster U17's will be this years sub academy. The U17's won a tournament in Perpignon in May and contained 8 players from Terenure including Harrison Brewer, Stephen O'Neill and Billy Dardis. Also in the squad were Jack O'Neill from Castleknock, Nick McCarthy from Clongowes and Dan Leavy from St.Michaels.

Nope, not necessarily. Some guys are obviously taken into the academy straight from school, some a year later.

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