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Illegal Drugs - What Have Taken?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Carl Sagan


    I've smoked Cannabis and I've taken Mushrooms. Taking mushrooms was probably one of the best things I've ever experienced. Hoping to bring back one of those spore kits from Amsterdam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,146 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Tried em all bar crack and heroin..........way back when though.
    how am i still alive???????????
    have memories of taking 10/15 bangers in a whole night/day session.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,788 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    Can't ever fly a plane if you've taken LSD.
    Nonsense, I've flown a plane since taking LSD.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/feb/15/ecstasy-no-damage-brain-power
    There is no evidence that ecstasy causes brain damage, according to one of the largest studies into the effects of the drug. Too many previous studies made over-arching conclusions from insufficient data, say the scientists responsible for the research, and the drug's dangers have been greatly exaggerated.

    The finding will shock campaigners who have claimed ecstasy poses a real risk of triggering brain damage. They have argued that it can induce memory loss, decrease cognitive performance and has long-lasting effects on behaviour.

    But experts who have argued that the drug is relatively safe welcomed the new paper. "I always assumed that, when properly designed studies were carried out, we would find ecstasy does not cause brain damage," said Professor David Nutt, who was fired as chair of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs by Alan Johnson, then home secretary, for publicly stating alcohol and tobacco were more harmful than ecstasy.

    The study was carried out by a team led by Professor John Halpern of Harvard Medical School and published in the journal Addiction last week. Funded by a $1.8m grant from the US National Institute on Drug Abuse, it was launched specifically to avoid methodological drawbacks that have bedevilled previous attempts to pinpoint whether or not ecstasy users suffer brain damage.

    Ecstasy – or 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA – came into widespread use in the 1980s when taking it was linked to raves and the playing of dance music. Its symptoms include euphoria, a sense of intimacy with others and diminished anxiety and depression. In the US alone, more than 12 million have taken it.

    But the taking of ecstasy has also been linked to damage to the central nervous system and research in recent years has suggested that long-term changes to emotional states and behaviour have been triggered by consumption of the drug. Possession of it has been made an offence in most western nations.

    However, Halpern was sharply critical of the quality of the research that had linked ecstasy to brain damage. "Too many studies have been carried out on small populations, while overarching conclusions have been drawn from them," he said. For a start, some previous research has studied users who were taken from a culture dominated by all-night dancing, which thus exposed these individuals to sleep and fluid deprivation – factors that are themselves known to produce long-lasting cognitive effects. Non-users were not selected from those from a similar background, which therefore skewed results. In addition, past studies have not taken sufficient account of the fact that ecstasy users take other drugs or alcohol that could affect cognition or that they may have suffered intellectual impairment before they started taking ecstasy. In Halpern's study only ecstasy users who took no other drugs and who had suffered no previous impairment were selected.

    The resulting experiment whittled down 1,500 potential participants to 52 selected users, whose cognitive abilities matched those of a group of 59 non-users. "We even took hair samples of participants to test whether they were telling the truth about their drug and alcohol habits," said Halpern. "Essentially we compared one group of people who danced and raved and took ecstasy with a similar group of individuals who danced and raved but who did not take ecstasy. When we did that, we found that there was no difference in their cognitive abilities." In other words, previous studies highlighted problems triggered by other factors, such as use of other drugs or drink, or sleep deprivation.

    But the drug still posed risks, he said. "Ecstasy consumption is dangerous because illegally made pills often contain contaminants that can have harmful side-effects."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo




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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Opp sorry mods please lock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭George83


    None (not that I haven't been tempted) ... I've spent too many years nursing people who have either become addicted or fallen victim of a dodgy batch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I've smoked weed. I hardly ever smoke it and when I do I never fully enjoy it.
    I'm a singer. I'm hoping to make something of my music one day and every time I smoke anything, weed or otherwise, my voice sounds like sh!te for 2-3 days afterwards. So even if I'm enjoying the feeling, there's a nagging voice in the back of my head saying "literally throwing your next 2 days away in terms of songwriting".

    I think all drug should be legal though. Nothing should be illegal provided everyone involved is a consenting adult. If people **** themselves up, that's their own choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    I have taken everything except heroin and crack. The upside great times the damage no long term or short term memory.

    The upside great times the damage no long term or short term memory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    I'd love to party with the none of the above crowd.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    I'd love to party with the none of the above crowd.


    I'm pretty sure none would like to party with you either ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭slapbangwallop


    George83 wrote: »
    None (not that I haven't been tempted) ... I've spent too many years nursing people who have either become addicted or fallen victim of a dodgy batch.

    A dodgy batch of weed!? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    How can heroin or coke or ecstacy or any other drug possibly enrich your life?

    It's not ignorance or scaremongering it's fact. Drugs are dangerous in many different ways. They can damage health and ruin lives as well as kill.

    Just go on the Phil Mitchell heroin recovery programme and the job's a good 'un. Get someone to lock you in a room for 20 minutes and you're no longer addicted :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    I'm pretty sure none would like to party with you either ;)

    +1 and thats not a bad thing, different strokes for different folks. I just wish some folks wouldn't insist on inflicting their views on others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,788 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Carl Sagan wrote: »
    I've smoked Cannabis and I've taken Mushrooms. Taking mushrooms was probably one of the best things I've ever experienced. Hoping to bring back one of those spore kits from Amsterdam.
    There's nothing illegal about spores you should still be able to buy them and grow kit's over the counter. Cannabis seeds aren't illegal either so get a few of them while your at it.
    dahat wrote: »
    Tried em all bar crack and heroin..........way back when though.
    But, they're the best two. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭enda1


    Mushrooms used not be illegal. I took them when they weren't so got confused by the poll choices. Now my head hurts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭FrankAmazing


    As per the above poll.

    Hope i'm not missing anything ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Cill Dara Abu


    You're missing the poll for a start


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Talk to Frank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    I'm so high I can't see the poll

    Are those my feet?

    Wow


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Awww we need a multiple choice poll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭The Internet Explorer


    Edit: Poll now added. Irrelevant post is now indeed irrelevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    I dont touch the illegal stuff, thats for idiots and people who want to perpetuate the drug trade and all that goes with it.


    At least with beer the only thing that gets hurt is my head, and if it was a night on the black stuff, the jacks in the morning too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭FrankAmazing


    how do i make the poll able to tick multiple options?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Poll fail. Needs multi-options.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    how do i make the poll able to tick multiple options?
    Tick multiple options


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭FrankAmazing


    Abi wrote: »
    Poll fail. Needs more multi-options.

    can u fix it for me? if ur a mod? thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    I like special k for breakfast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    can u fix it for me? if ur a mod? thanks

    Somebody will sort it out for you when they see it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    can u fix it for me? if ur a mod? thanks

    Host mod for another forum, sorry. Bottom right hand corner of the page will tell you who moderates AH, fire them a PM and see if they can help, or they may see it first.


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