U20 6 Nations & World Cup 2011

Pudsy33 · 22-05-2011 10:07PM

will the games be televised?

22-05-2011 10:46PM

Not a chance of any of it being televised.

Leinster "Well Knowns"
Ruddock
Ben Marshall
McKinley
Sheridan
Ryan
Ruddock eile
Keating
Hudson

Sorry I couldn't have more info, the weather was a real downer on trying to track anything more than the ball, and my brother was playing too, so selfishly wasn't too bothered either!

irishbucsfan · 22-05-2011 10:47PM

Woah fairly handy Leinster team there

jolley123 · 22-05-2011 11:14PM

Wow, that's a great victory considering the talent of that Leinster team.
The L lads probably didn't take it too seriously what with the Heineken Final etc, but still.

I really like the look of Gilroy. Taking aside the fact that he's scored a bucket load in the Magners this season. His U-20 form has been great. When he played full-back in this years 6-nations he was electric.

22-05-2011 11:18PM

The Leinster lads were told that big performances = chance of a start next weekend. I know Ryan and Ruddock only played first half, and that this was part of their "test" for next week.

As an aside, Ben Marshall was excellent at 8 for Leinster, absolutely excellent. He's huge, and aggressive, and quick, with great hands. SOB and Heaslip's protege imo!

There was a fair bit of chopping and changing throughout the game, think the final score was 26-7, which might have flattered the Irish team somewhat.

One try was from a Macken break from midfield culminating in them going over in the corner, another from a period of 8/10 phases when one missed tackle gave an easy offload and a run under the posts for one of the Irish backs too. I didn't think it was Jackson playing 10, unless he's gotten taller and dyed his hair, but as I said, only saw the second half.

jolley123 · 22-05-2011 11:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

As an aside, Ben Marshall was excellent at 8 for Leinster, absolutely excellent. He's huge, and aggressive, and quick, with great hands. SOB and Heaslip's protege imo!

Wow, big statement. I hope you're right, I look forward to seeing him next year so.

The wealth of young/talented back-rows in Leinster is comical. D.Ryan, R.Ruddock, S.O'Brien, C.Gilsenan, M.Keanrey, J.Murphy, B.Marshall, J.Coghlan.

Glad to hear Macken played well too.

22-05-2011 11:28PM

Hopefully we can keep Marshall under wraps for 2/3 more years though. We'll struggle to keep all these guys, I'm already worried about Ruddock tbf.

Former Coach · 24-05-2011 10:22PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not a chance of any of it being televised.

Leinster "Well Knowns"
Ruddock
Ben Marshall
McKinley
Sheridan
Ryan
Ruddock eile
Keating
Hudson

Sorry I couldn't have more info, the weather was a real downer on trying to track anything more than the ball, and my brother was playing too, so selfishly wasn't too bothered either!

Lots of last year's games in Argentina were on TV. Some of previous year's matches in Japan we shown on RTE.ie so hopefully we'll get to see some of the matches.

24-05-2011 10:28PM

Former Coach wrote: »

Lots of last year's games in Argentina were on TV. Some of previous year's matches in Japan we shown on RTE.ie so hopefully we'll get to see some of the matches.

Oh the actual tournament I'd be very hopeful of seeing.

I meant the game at the weekend won't have any highlights posted anywhere or anything like that.

ormond lad · 25-05-2011 11:20AM

http://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/23225.php
Ireland U-20 Squad For Junior World Championship

25 May 2011, 9:59 am
By EditorThe Ireland Under- 20 squad (sponsored by PwC) has been named by Coach Mike Ruddock for this year's IRB Junior World Championship which will take place in Italy in June.
Ruddock will bring an experienced squad with him to Italy naming eight players who were involved in last year’s JWC, including Captain Niall Annett.

Just two players named were not involved in this year's Six Nations Tournament, with Dominic Gallagher and Kieran Marmion coming into the squad.
Ireland are in Pool C with England, Scotland and South Africa and open their tournament against England on Friday 10th June in Stadio Communale di Monigo, Treviso

Ireland U-20 Squad (IRB Junior Rugby World Championship 2011)
Niall Annett (Belfast Harlequins - Ulster)*
Finlay Bealham (Belfast Harlequins - Ulster)
Andrew Boyle (UCD - Leinster)*
Shane Buckley (Garryowen - Munster)
Conor Carey (Ballymena - Ulster)
Aaron Connely (Galway Corinthians - Connacht)
Andrew Conway (Blackrock College - Leinster)*
David Doyle (UCD - Leinster)*
Peter Du Toit (UCD - Leinster)
Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf - Leinster)
Dominic Gallagher (Dublin University -Ulster)
Craig Gilroy (Dungannon - Ulster)
JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemian - Munster)
Iain Henderson (Queens - Ulster)
Paddy Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster)
Michael Kearney (Clontarf - Leinster)
Alex Kelly (UCD - Leinster)
Brendan Macken (Blackrock - Leinster)*
Kieran Marmion (UWIC - Exile)
Luke Marshall (Ballymena - Ulster)
Eoin McKeon (Galwegians - Connacht)
James McKinney (Queens - Ulster)*
Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne - Leinster)*
Tiernan O'Halloran (Galwegians - Connacht)*
Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
James Tracy (UCD - Leinster)
*Denotes players who were involved with last year's JWC

Pool C Fixtures - Junior World Championship 2011
10 Jun - 18.10 England v Ireland Stadio Communale di Monigo, Treviso
10 Jun - 20.10 South Africa v Scotland Stadio del Plebiscito, Padova
14 Jun - 18.10 England v Scotland Stadio Communale di Monigo, Treviso
14 Jun - 20.10 Ireland v South Africa Stadio Communale di Monigo, Treviso
18 Jun - 20.10 England v South Africa Stadio del Plebiscito, Padova
18 Jun - 20.10 Ireland v Scotland Stadio Mario Battaglini, Rovigo

Former Coach · 25-05-2011 10:38PM

ormond lad wrote: »

http://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/23225.php
Ireland U-20 Squad For Junior World Championship

25 May 2011, 9:59 am
By EditorThe Ireland Under- 20 squad (sponsored by PwC) has been named by Coach Mike Ruddock for this year's IRB Junior World Championship which will take place in Italy in June.
Ruddock will bring an experienced squad with him to Italy naming eight players who were involved in last year’s JWC, including Captain Niall Annett.

Just two players named were not involved in this year's Six Nations Tournament, with Dominic Gallagher and Kieran Marmion coming into the squad.
Ireland are in Pool C with England, Scotland and South Africa and open their tournament against England on Friday 10th June in Stadio Communale di Monigo, Treviso

Ireland U-20 Squad (IRB Junior Rugby World Championship 2011)
Niall Annett (Belfast Harlequins - Ulster)*
Finlay Bealham (Belfast Harlequins - Ulster)
Andrew Boyle (UCD - Leinster)*
Shane Buckley (Garryowen - Munster)
Conor Carey (Ballymena - Ulster)
Aaron Connely (Galway Corinthians - Connacht)
Andrew Conway (Blackrock College - Leinster)*
David Doyle (UCD - Leinster)*
Peter Du Toit (UCD - Leinster)
Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf - Leinster)
Dominic Gallagher (Dublin University -Ulster)
Craig Gilroy (Dungannon - Ulster)
JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemian - Munster)
Iain Henderson (Queens - Ulster)
Paddy Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster)
Michael Kearney (Clontarf - Leinster)
Alex Kelly (UCD - Leinster)
Brendan Macken (Blackrock - Leinster)*
Kieran Marmion (UWIC - Exile)
Luke Marshall (Ballymena - Ulster)
Eoin McKeon (Galwegians - Connacht)
James McKinney (Queens - Ulster)*
Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne - Leinster)*
Tiernan O'Halloran (Galwegians - Connacht)*
Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
James Tracy (UCD - Leinster)
*Denotes players who were involved with last year's JWC

Pool C Fixtures - Junior World Championship 2011
10 Jun - 18.10 England v Ireland Stadio Communale di Monigo, Treviso
10 Jun - 20.10 South Africa v Scotland Stadio del Plebiscito, Padova
14 Jun - 18.10 England v Scotland Stadio Communale di Monigo, Treviso
14 Jun - 20.10 Ireland v South Africa Stadio Communale di Monigo, Treviso
18 Jun - 20.10 England v South Africa Stadio del Plebiscito, Padova
18 Jun - 20.10 Ireland v Scotland Stadio Mario Battaglini, Rovigo

Martin Moore at tight-head (obviously injured) is a huge loss. Having said that huge potential in that back-line if the forwards can secure enough possession.

Morf · 25-05-2011 11:05PM

Good to see Connacht offering more and more players for representative rugby.

Former Coach · 25-05-2011 11:18PM

Morf wrote: »

Good to see Connacht offering more and more players for representative rugby.

V. surpised Mark Dolan hasn't made it. Speed of pass very impressive.

irishbucsfan · 26-05-2011 08:15AM

So much talent in that squad. Even if Martin Moore is out I thought the Ulster TH looked good in the 6N iirc. On a similar note, when did Findlay Bealham sign for Ulster? Thought he was an exile before?

It's mad to think Gilroy/Conway/Boyle/O'Halloran will all be competing for the back 3 places, and with Macken and Marshall in the centers there is huge potential for this team to score tries. Hope the forwards can compete with England/SA this time.

EDIT: Is Marmion a scrum half?

Jedwardian · 26-05-2011 09:30AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

EDIT: Is Marmion a scrum half?

Yeah. He could be joining the Connacht academy next season.

ormond lad · 26-05-2011 10:43AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

EDIT: Is Marmion a scrum half?

Jedwardian wrote: »

Yeah. He could be joining the Connacht academy next season.

according to a connacht poster on munsterfans,who also posts here
Kieran Marmion, Dave McSharry and Aaron Conneely have all
signed academy contracts for next season

jacothelad · 26-05-2011 03:12PM

I think Finlay Bealham plays for Belfast Harlequins and is consequently under the aegis of the Ulster Academy.

porterbelly · 26-05-2011 03:15PM

ormond lad wrote: »

according to a connacht poster on munsterfans,who also posts here
Kieran Marmion, Dave McSharry and Aaron Conneely have all
signed academy contracts for next season

Yup

irishbucsfan · 26-05-2011 03:29PM

jacothelad wrote: »

I think Finlay Bealham plays for Belfast Harlequins and is consequently under the aegis of the Ulster Academy.

He was down as an Exile before wasn't he? Maybe im just going mad.

profitius · 26-05-2011 03:39PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

He was down as an Exile before wasn't he? Maybe im just going mad.

Yeah he is from Australia.

Former Coach · 29-05-2011 02:55PM

Any word on TV coverage for U-20 World Cup? I think Setanta did some matches last year.

jolley123 · 29-05-2011 03:19PM

Former Coach wrote: »

Any word on TV coverage for U-20 World Cup? I think Setanta did some matches last year.

I would expect either Setanta or Rte to cover the games. The first game against England will be on Sky Sports 4

GerM · 29-05-2011 03:33PM

I'm not sure if Setanta or RTE have arranged to screen games. Sky will be showing both the Ireland vs England game and the Ireland vs South Africa game. I believe the official site will be also streaming both of those encounters. I don't know of any broadcaster in this part of the world that is planning to show the Ireland vs Scotland game but there are broadcasters in other parts of the world that have every game live so I'm sure there will be an opportunity to view it online.

jolley123 · 29-05-2011 04:39PM

http://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/23238.php
Here's more info on it.

Richarz · 29-05-2011 06:09PM

I've heard from a few people involved in the U20 teams that McGahan has demanded more Munster academy players be included to "balance things out". Pretty pathetic it has to be said and I hope his demands arent met and players are picked on merit and not what province they play for.

GerM · 29-05-2011 06:34PM

So what are we thinking for the starting team against England?

15. Andrew Conway
14. Tiernan O'Halloran
13. Brendan Macken
12. Luke Marshall
11. Craig Gilroy
10. Paddy Jackson
9. Peter Du Toit
8. Jordi Murphy
7. Aaron Conneeley
6. Shane Buckley
5. Daniel Qualter
4. Michael Kearney
3. Conor Carey
2. Niall Annett
1. James Tracey

Very harsh on a few players and quite likely I'm wrong with a couple of calls there. Any other year Hanrahan, Kelly, Boyle and McKeon could be nailed on starters. I hope Jackson steps up and has a big tournament. If he can release those backs outside him we've a chance of taking one or two scalps. Marshall will be able to take a lot of pressure off him though and can give a second 5/8th option. Shame that injury has claimed some of the brightest stars but that's the case in a lot of seasons.

The England game is going to be a big ask. The likes of Ford and Farrell as their outhalf options are a cut above what we have and losing Moore is a blow up front. Their front five are absolute behemoths that are physically bigger than most senior outfits. We're going to need an absolutely colossus of a performance to match them.

irishbucsfan · 29-05-2011 07:05PM

I think McKeon will play with Jordi Murphy at 7. Either way we have a great group of back row players and back 3 players to choose from. I think Boyle might nudge himself into the team ahead of O'Halloran.

A lot falls on the shoulders of Paddy Jackson I think. Time for him to step up a little imo. Marshall will take a lot of pressure off him though.

profitius · 30-05-2011 02:21PM

Richarz wrote: »

I've heard from a few people involved in the U20 teams that McGahan has demanded more Munster academy players be included to "balance things out". Pretty pathetic it has to be said and I hope his demands arent met and players are picked on merit and not what province they play for.

I've heard Sherwin complian about the youths squad. There were more exiles than Munster players even though Munster beat the exiles well. They might feel that theres goodMunster players that should be there. Cathal O'Flaherty springs to mind.

Jedwardian · 30-05-2011 04:10PM

I don't see why Mike Ruddock would refuse to pick Munster players if they're good enough. For years Connacht would have been considered the poor relation of the Irish provinces and gotten a raw deal when it comes to selection yet they've got twice the amount of players in the U-20s as Munster do. The lack of Munster players isn't due to bias, it's due to them not being good enough.

roycon · 30-05-2011 06:30PM

rather than munsters players not being good enough id say not developing quick enough. if it was an u21 team i always feel thered be more munster players. id start andy boyle ahead of ohalloran and drop peter du toit.probably spot on apart from that. luke mcgrath may be called up after he finishes his leaving cert

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