Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

ormond lad · 02-05-2011 07:54PM

jolley123 wrote: »

Where's Ivan Dineen going

no idea, but they are saying on mfs.com that hes gone

Aidric · 02-05-2011 07:57PM

jolley123 wrote: »

Ivan Dineen

Any relation to Len? :pac:

PhatPiggins · 02-05-2011 07:58PM

ormond lad wrote: »

no idea, but they are saying on mfs.com that hes gone

Where's Sean Scanlon going? We're not exactly over burdened with pacey back 3 players.

pappyodaniel · 02-05-2011 08:27PM

I hear Young Munster captain Ger Slattery is moving to Northampton for next season. Munster is basically a production line for quality hookers.

I wish him the best and would love to see him in a red jersey in a few years time.

profitius · 02-05-2011 08:37PM

We don't know for sure yet who is going. Deasy is signed for next season but the person put him in the unconfirmed category. And Troy Smith? Is he getting on the B&I team regularly?

ormond lad · 02-05-2011 08:43PM

profitius wrote: »

We don't know for sure yet who is going. Deasy is signed for next season but the person put him in the unconfirmed category. And Troy Smith? Is he getting on the B&I team regularly?

Deasy is signed up. Troy smith didnt play nottingham or ulster ravens the first time they played, he played the rest of the games

Leroy Lita · 02-05-2011 09:27PM

pappyodaniel wrote: »

I hear Young Munster captain Ger Slattery is moving to Northampton for next season. Munster is basically a production line for quality hookers.

I wish him the best and would love to see him in a red jersey in a few years time.

best to luck to him. what age is he?

what age is Troy Smith, where does he play and what club does he play for??

are Munster getting anywhere at all in signing a new centre?? how many more signings do ye think that they will make?

Cpt_Blackbeard · 02-05-2011 09:32PM

Leroy Lita wrote: »

best to luck to him. what age is he?

Played Senior Cup with Earls so 23 is my guess.

ormond lad · 02-05-2011 09:39PM

Leroy Lita wrote: »

best to luck to him. what age is he?

what age is Troy Smith, where does he play and what club does he play for??

are Munster getting anywhere at all in signing a new centre?? how many more signings do ye think that they will make?

troy smith is 20 year old new zealander playing in the centre with midleton in AIL.

Leroy Lita · 02-05-2011 10:01PM

ormond lad wrote: »

troy smith is 20 year old new zealander playing in the centre with midleton in AIL.

is he any good?

profitius · 02-05-2011 10:06PM

ormond lad wrote: »

troy smith is 20 year old new zealander playing in the centre with midleton in AIL.

Hmm. I bet if he was Irish he wouldn't be noticed.

Amazotheamazing · 03-05-2011 01:58AM

pappyodaniel wrote: »

I hear Young Munster captain Ger Slattery is moving to Northampton for next season. Munster is basically a production line for quality hookers.

I wish him the best and would love to see him in a red jersey in a few years time.

big blow for Munsters, always thought he was a decent player but one of those guys considered too small for pro rugby. decent kicker as well. Munster don't need him, I guess. Is Casey off too?

Amazotheamazing · 03-05-2011 02:12AM

profitius wrote: »

Hmm. I bet if he was Irish he wouldn't be noticed.

Don't be so sure about that, he set up a lovely try in one of the A games. About 5 mins 20 seconds in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuwCW0YEZ_c and fairly carved up Esher from what I recall of that incredibly onesided match a few months back. Incidentally, hope Keiran Essex can get a contract somewhere, he's never really been one of the big hypes in the Academy so I can understand him not getting a contract but he's looked good anytime I've seen him. AIL form can lead to trials eleswhere, as Varley and Grace have shown. Andrew Burke has a trial with Wasps (I think) too, hope it goes well for him, he had an awful run of injuries in his Academy time with Munster.

The big hope for Munster at 12 is Hanrahan anyhow. Will be very interesting to see if holds his place with the u20's at the Junior RWC.

onlyrocknroll · 03-05-2011 07:21AM

profitius wrote: »

Hmm. I bet if he was Irish he wouldn't be noticed.

A bit harsh to dismiss a player you haven't seen yet!

profitius · 03-05-2011 12:04PM

onlyrocknroll wrote: »

A bit harsh to dismiss a player you haven't seen yet!

I havn't dismissed him. My point was not about Troy Smith its about the Munster selection process. He might be brilliant but if he was Irish I doubt he would have been noticed playing for Midleton.

bazzajf · 03-05-2011 03:58PM

At the end of the season about 7 or 8 of our players are on their way out, as well as the forwards coach, well lets add mcgahan to that lot too and the backs coach jason holland like a lot of members of the staff seems to have gotten a job purely because he used to play for munster (like galway, payne and foley, only one of the cosy cartel of old boys i'd keep is foley because apart from the quins game our defense has been decent (even foley said he was shocked that he was offered the defense coach job when he had no experience in that area)......it seems like the chief executive garret fitzgerald is appointing old favourites to keep in favour with the fans but he is making himself look foolish and results and performances are suffering, the fans want results mr fitzgerald, it's no good seeing galwey and foley on the sidelines if we are getting hammered by the likes of quins at home

do your job mr fitzgerald, it's not hard, four immediate things you can do

sack mcgahan - with so much coming and going of players/staff at the end of the season, it's a perfect time for a new guy to come in

get decent qualified coaches in

get 2-3 proven international class signings in

instruct new coach to give the best academy players/youngsters a minimum number of games per season (say at least 10)

thomond2006 · 03-05-2011 06:22PM

The question is does Munster/IRFU have the money to do most/all of the above?

03-05-2011 06:28PM

Very very doubtful considering no HEC knockout stages, and no Amlin final...

danthefan · 03-05-2011 06:34PM

It's been pointed out at least 10 times now:

Munster can only sign ONE MORE NIQ.

2 or 3 internationals is not happening.

Risteard · 03-05-2011 06:45PM

Aside from the fact that we can't sign two or three more internationals, it's just kicking the can down the road anyway. We're going to have to play our players sooner or later and the world cup will provide some game time for those on the fringe and younger players, hopefully it'll be enough to see some of them maintain a place when the internationals come back.

Hopefully Botha will address some of our scrum issues whilst also helping along younger props like Archer who's shown some good performances in the ML and Cotter in the academy who had the Con scrum in his pocket in the AIL semi.

Likewise Zebo has shown some decent form whenever I've seen him play so I would expect him to press on with some increased gametime. The problem, as always will lie in the centres.

Alas I have an inevitable feeling that TOL will come straight in for Murray. Leamy and Wallace will parachute straight back into the team after the WC and MOD, as good as he's been this year, will remain ahead of Nagle.

donfers · 03-05-2011 06:47PM

danthefan wrote: »

It's been pointed out at least 10 times now:

Munster can only sign ONE MORE NIQ.

2 or 3 internationals is not happening.

not necessarily true for two reasons

1) they can sign irish internationals

2) some of the current niq could be asked to leave midcontract and have a portion of the contract paid up or could simply move to another club if agreement can be reached

Risteard · 03-05-2011 06:53PM

donfers wrote: »

not necessarily true for two reasons

1) they can sign irish internationals

2) some of the current niq could be asked to leave midcontract and have a portion of the contract paid up or could simply move to another club if agreement can be reached

The only international IQs that would be worth having in problem positions would already be a) under contract for another Irish team b) likely to be a big player in their own province, so unlikely to move.

As for the second bit, that would be highly unlikely tbf. Only on rare circumstances do teams release players mid season.

danthefan · 03-05-2011 07:06PM

donfers wrote: »

not necessarily true for two reasons

1) they can sign irish internationals

2) some of the current niq could be asked to leave midcontract and have a portion of the contract paid up or could simply move to another club if agreement can be reached

1) basically none available

2) not happenening

Amazotheamazing · 03-05-2011 07:10PM

danthefan wrote: »

It's been pointed out at least 10 times now:

Munster can only sign ONE MORE NIQ.

2 or 3 internationals is not happening.

If Munster are booed off the pitch on Friday (a bad loss to Connacht could lead to this), the IRFU will allow Munster sign whoever they want imo and come up with some sort of RWC justification for it.

The IRFU might want all the provinces to have mostly Irish squads but they are pragmatic enough to want them (or three of them) to have winning squads too. The rules have already been bent several times for all the provinces.

03-05-2011 07:11PM

Not a chance

Munster already have biggest squad in the country.

Amazotheamazing · 03-05-2011 07:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not a chance

Munster already have biggest squad in the country.

What difference does that make?

Judgement Day · 03-05-2011 07:14PM

Jonny Wilkinson has an Irish Granny.

03-05-2011 07:16PM

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

What difference does that make?

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Amazotheamazing · 03-05-2011 07:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

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Not as much as you think. It's not going to be a straight forward "we have x amount of money, what will that buy us?" but more like "what will we need to spend to make Munster competitive?". The IRFU will cover the extra cost, if it has to, if it gains in the long run.

Money isn't going to be the reason Munster don't buy someone, nor with the NIQ status. They'll weigh up the merits of the cost of another unsuccessful season for Munster vs. the cost of a few players to make Munster successful.

Anthonyk2010 · 03-05-2011 07:23PM

Who is this troy smith?

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