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anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    crebel81 wrote: »
    Learn about standing up for the rights of irish citizens u mean? Sinn fein wont be in power, but having them in government will ensure some accountability for the rogues!!

    more sf dribble,talk policys for the country ,the people might listen,this sf dribble getting old as it was 30 years ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 cathaldonnelly


    After watching Pierse Doherty on Primetime on Wednesday last an emphatic NO! - I can't believe that the sum total of Sinn Fein's economic policies are to take what remains of the Pension Fund an what is on reserve in the Central Bank and use that to p!ss away on one years Public Expenditure while not having any idea what to do next year, while at the same time allowing us to become alienated by anyone willing to ever lend us money on the future (unless they're aiming to make us the first sub-prime Country!)

    And to think of all the thanks you got. Well done all, a fine days work.
    Read their economic policy and contrast it with other parties. Only form opinions on what you have read (you clearly haven't read it)

    You would know better than David McWilliams, Tom O'Connor and countless other domestic as well as international economists who support SF policy. Well done, it's always good to question the strong theories within the field of economics. That makes for good science :)
    I salute you. Your friend in the glorious quest for an alternative economic truth,
    Cathal :D

    (satirical post :D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭KIERAN1


    mccoist wrote: »
    Gerry will not close the banks, and that is just the usual dramatic pitch fianna failures throw out to frighten everyone to to toe the line
    so get in line and cop on
    gerry will not be running the country
    gerry will not be closing the banks

    however where has the fianna failure policy to help out or even stand up for the working people of this country
    and if you throw the one about high taxes driving people out of the country,look around you 1000 people a week leaving at present

    No party on this island would close the banks. You can't run a economy without having a bank institution, but we do not need, six or seven banks in a country of less than four million people, especially now since we are in a depression not a recession and lot of people are out of work, the demand for their services is not as once was, so this is a good time to wind down banks that are drag on society in terms of debt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Davypat


    A civil war ?

    Actually happened the last time we had a Sinn Fein government. :pac:

    Oh God! Get out your history book


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    mccoist wrote: »
    the way it is keltic knight is that this election is down to two outcomes
    1/ finegael and labour forming coalition goverment to tidy up the mess fianna failures left behind
    personally i think they will do a good job
    as i have said before they will negotiate a new deal with europe on th einterest rate laid down by EU/IMF
    2/sinn feinn and the faliures are battling it out to be the offical opposition party in the dail
    this at present is suprisingly close
    it would do this coutry good to have sinn fein as the opposition because like it or not they stand up and are counted not like the lie down failures we have had in power for the last 13/14 years

    as regard knowing the ins and outs of economic policies i have not got a clue in respect to the large scale financial sums that are being dealt with
    it was made clear that the deal made with imf/eu cant be changed,only thing that might happen but will be for all euro countrys in trouble,is maybe drop a little on interest rate,that as far as it will go,as far as sf goes,the only place for them in opposition,as thy clearly dont have policys that work or can put out figure too justafie anything they say,all they say pension fund,seem there answer too everything,they dont say where they get the 16 billion too run frontline services,and the 50 billion, as they will have said get lost imf and get lost europe,so they would get funds from there,tax take too little,a sf supporter here said raise taxes,so ireland go into a deeper recission,this was tryed in 70's and 80's ,raise taxes didnt work ,so wont now,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    mccoist wrote: »
    the way it is keltic knight is that this election is down to two outcomes
    1/ finegael and labour forming coalition goverment to tidy up the mess fianna failures left behind
    personally i think they will do a good job
    as i have said before they will negotiate a new deal with europe on th einterest rate laid down by EU/IMF
    2/sinn feinn and the faliures are battling it out to be the offical opposition party in the dail
    this at present is suprisingly close
    it would do this coutry good to have sinn fein as the opposition because like it or not they stand up and are counted not like the lie down failures we have had in power for the last 13/14 years

    as regard knowing the ins and outs of economic policies i have not got a clue in respect to the large scale financial sums that are being dealt with

    f.g or lab wont be in a position to renegoiate the imf deal in any meaningful way as they or admiting that they wont default on th bailout so its like playing poker and showing everybody your cards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    Davypat wrote: »
    Oh God! Get out your history book

    i thought finegael where in goverment during the civil war. when they took the wepons that the british where using to kill the irish and they took up where the brits left off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 GFJD


    I personally would love to see the IMF/EU/IRE meeting to discuss a new deal live on rte 1 with Ireland represented by Richard Bruton, Eamon Gilmore and Martin mcGuinness(chief negotiator obviously).

    Id say we'd get a decent deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    GFJD wrote: »
    I personally would love to see the IMF/EU/IRE meeting to discuss a new deal live on rte 1 with Ireland represented by Richard Bruton, Eamon Gilmore and Martin mcGuinness(chief negotiator obviously).

    Id say we'd get a decent deal.
    will martin have his gun :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭KIERAN1


    And to think of all the thanks you got. Well done all, a fine days work.
    Read their economic policy and contrast it with other parties. Only form opinions on what you have read (you clearly haven't read it)

    You would know better than David McWilliams, Tom O'Connor and countless other domestic as well as international economists who support SF policy. Well done, it's always good to question the strong theories within the field of economics. That makes for good science :)
    I salute you. Your friend in the glorious quest for an alternative economic truth,
    Cathal :D

    (satirical post :D)

    If David is supporting the SF policy, in my mind, that is good reason to least consider their economic policy inpassing. He is a top notch economist, but there is many risks in burning senior bondholders, as you'd been going up against a policy, that has now been adopted by the European union to protect these bondholders until 2013, I Believe?

    It obvious why that took place as some of the senior bondholders happened to be German and French!!

    We'll need to borrow at a lower interest as possible, as the world is big place, THE EU can go to hell, if we can't get a better deal for this country from them, be under no illusions our friends in Europe are screwing us over on the interest rate. Were in a time that we should look after our own self interest,and stop worrying and thinking about what Europe might think of us.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,917 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    1,378 posts in and still not one Sinn Fein supporter can explain there economic policies, laughable how people are willing to vote for them.
    Who are you voting for and can you explain their economic policies?

    Its just too easy to make the statement you did and not know anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭puffdragon


    Gerrys a tourist ! good one , (where does that leave our illustrious president? )

    SF have no money left for Guards Teachers ! but FF FG are going to give their money to the banks?

    Burn, Burden share, haircut the bondholders and save 29 billion !! a picture is starting to form!!


    In six weeks time the only money we have to invest in our economy will be given to the banks!! go figure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭mccoist


    leave this sf bull talk up in the north where it belongs,this is ireland
    by the way up north is part of ireland
    for once i agree with you keltic knightt leave the civil war politics where it belongs in the history books,
    Much as you dislike gerry adams he is this countries best well known international politician and commands huge respect world wide
    his work on the peace process stands to him

    the fianna failures did not neotiate a deal they sold the country down the river
    e gilmore m noonan will negotiate a new deal for ireland as the present deal is not viable,it would be prudent to take a much respected politican like adams into negotiations with you
    I believethe full damage inflicted on the country has not been published yet, my own opinion is the the reason the interest rate so high is that the EU/IMF did not believe the fianna failures and are waiting for irish to be straight with them as to the full extent of debt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭puffdragon


    sharkie66 wrote: »
    And you are Irish? I have my doubts:D

    Please stick to the thread and not this constant BullSiht!

    Gud man!

    Have you decided what number you are giving Sinn Fein yet?

    Easy now ,its hard to be in a corner and everyone against you , remember the legacy of their mistakes will haunt them for a couple of lifetimes.

    The IMF and EU are in Dublin at this very moment sharing out the loans of the bankrupt banks and all they can do is call names. Chill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    showing your true colours now. the north is ireland despite how much you would like it to go away just because micheal collins and fine gael turned their backs on the nationalists in the north leaving them to become second class citizens tortured and oppressed some of us in the south still felt a duty to try and help them out

    election in ireland,the policys are for ireland ,not north,
    might have been a better idea if gerry adams let the sf leader in ireland deal with ploicy here as its clear ,it might have been better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭sharkie66


    puffdragon wrote: »
    Gerrys a tourist ! good one , (where does that leave our illustrious president? )

    SF have no money left for Guards Teachers ! but FF FG are going to give their money to the banks?

    Burn, Burden share, haircut the bondholders and save 29 billion !! a picture is starting to form!!


    In six weeks time the only money we have to invest in our economy will be given to the banks!! go figure?

    Keltic and his crew who support the criminal FF and FG elites will never understand this.

    Some here want to go on and on and on about the economic policies of Sinn Fein rather than see how things are in the real world. They are the type of people who fell hook line and sinker for the crap spewed out by the FF/FG masters.

    I see no hope on the horizon for these people and in a few years they might come to their senses when they are lying on the streets begging for assistance. Should have gone to ...and not go with the FF/FG line of crap!

    Will I feel sorry for his ilk and the criminal ignorant FF/FG crew?


    Ahhhhem................ NO!

    You can still make a change,
    Vote Sinn Fein to take on the wnaker bankers and the FF/FG white collar fraudsters!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭puffdragon


    By the way the latest worst scenario forecast is that we only have 3 billion left after we give the money to the banks in six weeks time , potentially 30 000 jobs to go in public sector, scrapping of the croke park agreement, pensions are looking worrying to say the least, and all we have to do is grow some , and tell the bondholders the truth , sorry we should have told you a year ago but we cant pay our mortgage this month!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    crebel81 wrote: »
    Many are so afraid (maybe not you) that the rise in Sinn Fein support might result in a just society and a united Ireland.

    Really looking forward to that day :) Because its ever so close...:D
    Is is a party or a religion you are supporting there? Because you speak about it in Messianic terms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    sharkie66 wrote: »
    And you are Irish? I have my doubts:D

    Please stick to the thread and not this constant BullSiht!

    Gud man!

    Have you decided what number you are giving Sinn Fein yet?

    im as irish as they get lad,if there was a zero on ballet paper,i wouldnt give it too sf,how about you voting ff.fg and labour i,2,3 :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    sharkie66 wrote: »
    Keltic and his crew who support the criminal FF and FG elites will never understand this.

    Some here want to go on and on and on about the economic policies of Sinn Fein rather than see how things are in the real world. They are the type of people who fell hook line and sinker for the crap spewed out by the FF/FG masters.

    I see no hope on the horizon for these people and in a few years they might come to their senses when they are lying on the streets begging for assistance. Should have gone to ...and not go with the FF/FG line of crap!

    Will I feel sorry for his ilk and the criminal ignorant FF/FG crew?


    Ahhhhem................ NO!

    You can still make a change,
    Vote Sinn Fein to take on the wnaker bankers and the FF/FG white collar fraudsters!

    did anyone tell gerry the vat rate in ireland yet:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    puffdragon wrote: »
    tell the bondholders the truth , sorry we should have told you a year ago but we cant pay our mortgage this month!!
    And how do we make up the €15,000,000,000 shortfall in the budget to pay for social welfare and public servants this year? And next year? And the year after?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭KIERAN1


    showing your true colours now. the north is ireland despite how much you would like it to go away just because micheal collins and fine gael turned their backs on the nationalists in the north leaving them to become second class citizens tortured and oppressed some of us in the south still felt a duty to try and help them out

    While nobody can condone the IRA for killing human beings, most of the IRA members were born into a bad situation, that was both inhumane and cruel, and hard to prosper in. It was a conflict of mindset, but never mind Martin slagging Gerry, his party have been corrupt since the eighties with Charlie bad boy Haughey. There was signs back then people in the FF party were not in politics for the good of the Irish citizen.

    I would Trust Gerry Adams to help me more in life, then I would trust Martin, he sell his mother to get into power slimy person/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭puffdragon


    You can still make a change,
    Vote Sinn Fein to take on the wnaker bankers and the FF/FG white collar fraudsters!

    Well not being so bold as that can I just give a quiet second to this!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    And how do we make up the €15,000,000,000 shortfall in the budget to pay for social welfare and public servants this year? And next year? And the year after?
    Any Sinn Fan want to address this elephant in the room? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    puffdragon wrote: »
    You can still make a change,
    Vote Sinn Fein to take on the wnaker bankers and the FF/FG white collar fraudsters!

    Well not being so bold as that can I just give a quiet second to this!!

    no policys by sf
    no solutions by sf
    no figures too backup
    so NO vote
    but you could vote ff,fg and labour and green if you like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭puffdragon


    And how do we make up the €15,000,000,000 shortfall in the budget to pay for social welfare and public servants this year? And next year? And the year after?

    WE dont have the money to pay them anyway and we cant afford the rent, please listen, your choice is food or the loan shark? guess who Im going to feed next year !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    puffdragon wrote: »
    WE dont have the money to pay them anyway and we cant afford the rent, please listen, your choice is food or the loan shark? guess who Im going to feed next year !!

    thats not a answer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    puffdragon wrote: »
    WE dont have the money to pay them anyway and we cant afford the rent, please listen, your choice is food or the loan shark? guess who Im going to feed next year !!
    We are not going to pay the teachers or the dole?

    Is this Sinn Fein policy?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭insight_man


    KIERAN1 wrote: »
    If David is supporting the SF policy, in my mind, that is good reason to least consider their economic policy inpassing. He is a top notch economist, but there is many risks in burning senior bondholders, as you'd been going up against a policy, that has now been adopted by the European union to protect these bondholders until 2013, I Believe?

    It obvious why that took place as some of the senior bondholders happened to be German and French!!

    We'll need to borrow at a lower interest as possible, as the world is big place, THE EU can go to hell, if we can't get a better deal for this country from them, be under no illusions our friends in Europe are screwing us over on the interest rate. Were in a time that we should look after our own self interest,and stop worrying and thinking about what Europe might think of us.

    I fully agree with your analysis. Look at Iceland a few years ago. They were in a worse place than us relative to the size of their economy and our economy. They did exactly what SF are saying and had the same threats made to them ie bad for Europe, must pay all debt, no one will ever lend to you again etc etc. None of it happened and now they are borrowing on the bond markets cheaper than ever before because they showed they can manage the national debt without the millstone of private bank debt around their necks.

    The people of Iceland showed courage and that is what the Irish people must do in this election by voting for the only party who proposes the same as Iceland which is SF.

    Otherwise foolish people who mistakenly vote for Fg / Lab thinking they will lift the burden from the people will find themselves in 5 years time making the very same complaints they are making now. AND much poorer for it after their politicians squander 36 Billion euro on private debt!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    alot of newly registered threaders here in feb 2011, and i see mostly post on sf threads,wonder why


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