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Old Infrastructure comes to the surface ...

  • 03-01-2011 2:50pm
    #1
    BrianD
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    Couldn't help but notice that the winter damage to the road surface in Ringsend is revealing what lies beneath! As you pass over the bridge in Ringsend you can see the old tram tracks underneath.

    This got me wondering ... how much of the old tram network was paved over when the lines were discontinued or was it taken up? How much of it still exists. Per haps the guage-masters can tell us what guage it was


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  • #2
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    5'3" same as the train network.


  • #3
    DWCommuter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭DWCommuter


    Theres a section of road in Naas that gets turned over every few years (beside the crossings petrol station) and it reveals a long since buried piece of rail from the Tullow branch.


  • #4
    lucernarian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    BrianD wrote: »
    Couldn't help but notice that the winter damage to the road surface in Ringsend is revealing what lies beneath! As you pass over the bridge in Ringsend you can see the old tram tracks underneath.

    This got me wondering ... how much of the old tram network was paved over when the lines were discontinued or was it taken up? How much of it still exists. Per haps the guage-masters can tell us what guage it was

    Funny that, I saw that on Monday evening and I was thinking of posting about it here. I didn't think trams would easily manage the bridge into Ringsend.


  • #5
    admiralofthefleet
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    this may interest you


  • #6
    BrianD
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    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    Funny that, I saw that on Monday evening and I was thinking of posting about it here. I didn't think trams would easily manage the bridge into Ringsend.

    The 20th century buses were also having problems getting to Sandymount!


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  • #7
    NedNew2
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭NedNew2


    The rail gauge in Ireland is 1600mm.


  • #8
    Judgement Day
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    NedNew2 wrote: »
    The rail gauge in Ireland is 1600mm.

    5'3" actually.


  • #9
    dubhthach
    Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭dubhthach


    Judgement Day wrote: »
    5'3" actually.

    5'3" = 1600.02 mm (63 * 25.4)

    Regarding Tram tracks they are still visible under a very thin layer of asphalt on Gilford Road in Sandymount (former Tram depot)


  • #10
    L1011
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    I think the point was that the Board of Trade certainly didn't think in mm when selecting it. It just happens to be a conveniently round number in them.


  • #11
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    BrianD wrote: »
    Couldn't help but notice that the winter damage to the road surface in Ringsend is revealing what lies beneath! As you pass over the bridge in Ringsend you can see the old tram tracks underneath.

    This got me wondering ... how much of the old tram network was paved over when the lines were discontinued or was it taken up? How much of it still exists. Per haps the guage-masters can tell us what guage it was


    Any chance of a picture for Wiki?


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  • #12
    corktina
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    we need a Rail/transport Hereitage forum on Boards....requested a long time back now....


  • #13
    DWCommuter
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    corktina wrote: »
    we need a Rail/transport Hereitage forum on Boards....requested a long time back now....

    I know a rail enthusiasts forum was requested and I must admit to having absolutely no interest in that. However a rail/transport heritage forum is a completely different beast and is badly needed. Personally I have drawn on rail history to formulate many of my opinions of the present, so I would vigorously support its establishment.

    Corktina, I'll assist in any efforts to get it established.


  • #14
    the_syco
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    DWCommuter wrote: »
    rail/transport heritage forum
    On that point, there's a bit of tram tracks still visible nearby Leixlip village (an extension of the Dublin and Lucan Steam Tramway). What is now the 66 Dublin bus route used to be a tram route, more or less. If you Google bus routes by location name, and put "tram" after them, you'll get a few Wikipedia links.


  • #15
    Aidan1
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    The tracks in Inchicore are there also - used to be visible by the Tramyard complex (funny that).


  • #16
    NedNew2
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭NedNew2


    Judgement Day wrote: »
    5'3" actually.

    1600 mm actually.

    Le meas, you can use your old man measurements if you wish, I will stick with the more universal contemporary ones.


  • #17
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Here in Berlin they didn't bother covering the old tram tracks sometimes! In this case, this line was severed with the construction on the Berlin wall as the midpoint of this bridge was the border. A few hundred metres to the east and the trams still run. No trams run in the former west anymore, save for a recently completed short section.

    Something I remembered about old infrastructure in Dublin, you can still see the old catenary supports in Chapelizod, though today they are used for street lighting and some have had their bases replaced.


  • #18
    BrianD
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    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    Any chance of a picture for Wiki?

    Unfortunately, it was patched up quick quickly after the thaw.


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