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Computer programming

  • 16-12-2010 05:56PM
    #1
    rcaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭


    Wondering if anyone on here programs computers to make music? I mean things like Max/MSP, Supercollider, CSound, that area. Doesn't fit into the Music Production forum really, I'm wondering about building instruments and effects on a computer.

    I've really been getting into Pure Data lately. At the moment I send audio and MIDI from Pd into Ableton Live. I really like having all the scope of what Pd allows you to do, which is anything you can imagine really. My setup isn't great, just a NanoKontrol controlling the programs, and the line out from my laptop into some desktop speakers. Hoping to get a good interface in the new year so I can start processing live instruments through the computer too.

    Is anyone here into this stuff?


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  • #2
    flyswatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭flyswatter


    I'd like to try it in the future maybe. Did you know that there is a version of Max/MSP for Ableton called Max for Live?

    Although I've been told by a college lecturer that paying for programs such as Reaktor and Max/MSP is not necessary as the likes of Pure Data and C Sound can do it all for free.


  • #3
    Demeyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Demeyes


    I programmed a vst plugin for a college project, I was planning to try more stuff but most ideas I had have been done to a fairly good standard already. I've heard a good bit about Max MSP and PD but I was more into pure code than those. I've been meaning to get them and mess around a bit, I've got a MIDI controller and interface so I want to try using my laptop for guitar stuff.


  • #4
    rcaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    flyswatter wrote: »
    I'd like to try it in the future maybe. Did you know that there is a version of Max/MSP for Ableton called Max for Live?

    Although I've been told by a college lecturer that paying for programs such as Reaktor and Max/MSP is not necessary as the likes of Pure Data and C Sound can do it all for free.

    Yeah, I'd heard about Max for Live, but I wasn't that into the idea of paying for two programs just to not really use either one fully. The way I've got Pd set up now is pretty similar anyway, I can send audio and MIDI between the two programs pretty easily, so I can use Pd to generate or process anything for Live. I'm really happy with it, 'cause Live's session view is really great for jamming, but the open-ended-ness of Pd is unhindered. There's a cool Jonny Greenwood interview where he talks about that idea a little, how open-ended programs are better

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m47dDaqnWG0


  • #5
    Malice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,079 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    I wrote a .mod and .s3m file parser years ago. Does that count? :).


  • #6
    rcaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Malice_ wrote: »
    I wrote a .mod and .s3m file parser years ago. Does that count? :).

    What'd you do with that, Malice_?


    One thing I've been thinking a lot about lately is getting to know the [hid] object in Pd. I'm gonna try pick myself up a cheap USB joypad to try getting MIDI out of it, like in this video;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB_oVny33wA


    His videos are really great for anyone trying to learn Pd.

    How cool would it be to record/trigger/process samples in real time with a joypad? 12 buttons at instance access, and 2 XY controllers working simultaneously? And the visual appeal of rocking out with a gamepad? Class :)


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  • #7
    Malice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,079 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    What'd you do with that, Malice_?
    Not a whole lot to be honest. I started to write it as a learning exercise and also as a method of getting music into a small game I was developing at the same time. Not long after I got everything into a usable state I realised that the world was moving on and DOS-based development like I was doing didn't have much of a future. Also third-party libraries like FMod and Bass could do the same thing only far better.

    It was a good learning experience though :).
    El Pr0n wrote:
    a cheap USB joypad
    If you've got a PS2 sitting around the house doing nothing you can pick up a converter in Maplin so that you can connect one of its joypads to a device that supports USB. I use it a bit for gaming on the PC.


  • #8
    flyswatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭flyswatter


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    Yeah, I'd heard about Max for Live, but I wasn't that into the idea of paying for two programs just to not really use either one fully. The way I've got Pd set up now is pretty similar anyway, I can send audio and MIDI between the two programs pretty easily, so I can use Pd to generate or process anything for Live. I'm really happy with it, 'cause Live's session view is really great for jamming, but the open-ended-ness of Pd is unhindered. There's a cool Jonny Greenwood interview where he talks about that idea a little, how open-ended programs are better

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m47dDaqnWG0

    That sounds interesting, I'd say thats really useful for generating unconventional sounds which can only be a good thing.

    I enjoyed that interview. It's pretty astonishing how talented that guy is!


  • #9
    rcaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    flyswatter wrote: »
    That sounds interesting, I'd say thats really useful for generating unconventional sounds which can only be a good thing.

    I enjoyed that interview. It's pretty astonishing how talented that guy is!

    The interesting thing I learned a little while ago was, on the recording, that song The Gloaming is all analogue synthesisers and magnetic tape!


  • #10
    11811
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    Actually getting into this kind stuff myself now, must get to grips with MAX DSp. At the moment really just starting build synths etc using Reaktor.
    Been using a great program lately called AudioMulch, great from hosting VST and other units to put live instruments through. Creating some interesting nosies with it.


  • #11
    Adyx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Malice_ wrote: »
    If you've got a PS2 sitting around the house doing nothing you can pick up a converter in Maplin so that you can connect one of its joypads to a device that supports USB. I use it a bit for gaming on the PC.

    I can't remember where I saw it, but you could also use a Wii remote. I've used one as a game controller in the past using a bluetooth adapter and glovePIE.

    Edit: Was doing some searching and came across this.


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  • #12
    Patricide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    Tried max msp for a bit but at the time i didnt have the patience for it.

    Might get back to it soon. Theres a great musician in tralee by the name of billy kemp whos into that stuff. As far as I know he hasnt performed in years which is a shame but the guy is pants on head retardedly awesome.


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