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Are there any "low profile" Garda cars? (no lightbars)?

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  • #62
    Hooch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    eroo wrote: »
    Regardless, it does not say anywhere that strobes mounted on motorcycles are 'illegal'. They may simply be contrary to specific Sections and subsections as above.

    Strobes not in use are not illegal.......use of them is. Contrary to a section is to be acting in such a way that is against this section.....therefore not legal.


  • #63
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    nice guy always wrote: »
    Strobes not in use are not illegal.......use of them is. Contrary to a section is to be acting in such a way that is against this section.....therefore not legal.

    By your interpretation of the act, hazard lights are also "illegal".

    I have read the acts you have quoted many times and have yet to see reference to amber flashing lights front and rear that are not direction indicators.

    I look forward to you pointing out my misinterpretation. Hopefully in a way that does not call me a liar again.


  • #64
    Hooch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    goldie fish wrote: »
    By your interpretation of the act, hazard lights are also "illegal".

    I have read the acts you have quoted many times and have yet to see reference to amber flashing lights front and rear that are not direction indicators.

    I look forward to you pointing out my misinterpretation. Hopefully in a way that does not call me a liar again.

    No they are not illegal in most cases. You are interpeting the law to suit yourself.

    The term hazard lights is a common term. Brake lights are also a common term......however there is no such thing as brake lights but stop lamps.

    Bareing the above in mind, hazard lights do not exist but direction indicators do. There is nothing in the act to state they cannot be used together. However, misleading lights are. So a vehicle parked can use them, however someone driving down the road with them on may mislead traffic and are infect a breach of the relevant legislation.


  • #65
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    No they are not illegal in most cases.
    Finally you are understanding where I am going.

    Interpretation is the issue. One judge will decide one thing, another will decide the opposite. Incedentally, the next generation stop lamp will also be illegal.(It is a high level strobe, becoming very common in europe).

    Perhaps it is time to update the legislation that dates from a time before motorways, even dual carriageways existed? The legislation is so vague to be unenforceable. I showed it to some of my friends in the UK police and they laughed loudly. No mention of intensity, just vague references to the area a lamp is supposed to light up.

    In the UK and elsewhere in the EU, you can use a motorcycle, with amber front facing strobes, and red rear facing strobes, to escort oversize loads. You can also use front facing strobes if delivering blood or Organs. Yet the only way you can use a similar vehicle here is if said load is for construction purposes, which is not always the case, and the legislation provides no definition for strobes, apart from specifying the speed at which flashing direction indicators can flash.

    As far as the legislation is concerned, many things you consider to be illegal, do not even exist!.


  • #66
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Customs vehicles do not use Blue lights. The only ones that do work exclusively within dublin airport.
    All their marked vehicles that are used on Public roads use Amber strobes.


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  • #67
    deadwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    Could an off duty garda, exceed the speed limit in the overtaking lane going to the doctors use a flashing light on the front and rear of his vehicle alternating between blue, green and amber within the confines of Dublin Airport?

    Going forward at the end of the day.


  • #68
    Alpha Papa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭Alpha Papa


    deadwood wrote: »
    Could an off duty garda, exceed the speed limit in the overtaking lane going to the doctors use a flashing light on the front and rear of his vehicle alternating between blue, green and amber within the confines of Dublin Airport?

    Going forward at the end of the day.

    This brought a smile to my face! Sarcasm I presume ;-)


  • #69
    Alpha Papa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭Alpha Papa


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Customs vehicles do not use Blue lights. The only ones that do work exclusively within dublin airport.
    All their marked vehicles that are used on Public roads use Amber strobes.

    Goldie is this not a contridiction saying customs don't use them but then giving an example of how they do :-) this vehicle utilize blues for similar reason to APS vehicles at checkpoints on the airport

    etc..


  • #70
    Hooch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    Think this has gone on long enough.....we all went off topic on this one

    Thread locked


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