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Waterford's Nightlife megathread
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I've heard all of the bloated population estimates and projections for commuter towns. Luckily, the CSO has the real figures (http://cso.ie/census/documents/Amended%20census2006_%20Volume%201%20Pop%20Classified%20by%20Area.pdf):
Rank Name Size
5. Waterford 49,213
40. Tramore 9,634
57. Gorey 7,193
So as we can see, Waterford is the 5th largest centre in the country, which has a satellite town that that is still bigger than Gorey. Gorey did grow very quickly in the boom, but I think it's fairly safe to say that it will not grow any further in the future. In fact most of the population is from Dublin and many will move back when they get the opportunity.
Waterford might not be large in international terms, but in Irish terms it is one of our primary cities and a regional capital, with the infrastructure that reflects that status. There are 72,846 within a 15 minute drive of Waterford city. Clearly, there is nothing like this population around Gorey.
So if Gorey can support a wine bar, we'll take 4, thanks.
Now having said that, many Waterford people have abandoned their city centre, so there is some work to be done in getting people back. And of course new businesses need to open up. But in any case, there are about twice as many people living in the inner city as there are in Gorey anyway.
Fair enough, but you'll probably accept that for single people, drinking at home, with friends or otherwise, is not really all that much fun. And some of us like to live the single life vicariously through others!
ok well for some reason the gorey town council website has 30,000 as the figure.... anyway the main point i was making is that, going out in both regularly, there is a huge difference in the amount of people that go out in both.
Of course i understand that many singles will go out with that intention in mind
But most of them choose the bigger disco pubs etc. after all i think thats the whole point of those places. its certainly not for going out and having a reasonable noise level and sociable time with friends. I just think that the whole late night bar scene will always take away from any smaller developments, after all alternative pubs dont even get a look in as it is sadly.0 -
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Depends on the type of pub really. We make almost nothing from draught beer, most of our sales are spirits and mixers, followed by bottled beers/alco-pops. Certainly in other types of pubs though.
What I was thinking of (I've no wish to run my own business so I'll give away my idea for free
) is a bar that would be fairly small in size, like an old traditional Irish pub. It would be small enough to be run by one person with a few staff. It would play no music unless some sort of trad session (maybe have a TV for big matches, but I'm not sure on that one) and be a place for people to chat and have a beer. You could feel safe bringing your girlfriend there, and it would have wine, soft drinks and tayto in addition to beer. Also maybe stock a range of fancy beer with high mark-ups in addition to the normal beer. Maybe during the day it could function like a café.
I know this doesn't sound like much of a money spinner, but the business model would be more in line with that of a café. As I said it would be a family type business, you wouldn't have the cost of a full licence, and as there would be no spirits everything would be more tame and civilised. By keeping things simple costs could be kept down.
I think it could work out if it targetted the over 25s. Whenever I meet my friends for drinks we rarely drink spirits until we are in some sort of late bar, so we wouldn't feel put out by the lack of spirits. I suppose the ladies are more spirits inclined, but its not like a business has to keep everyone happy to work. It would be a niche.0 -
What I was thinking of (I've no wish to run my own business so I'll give away my idea for free) is a bar that would be fairly small in size, like an old traditional Irish pub. It would be small enough to be run by one person with a few staff. It would play no music unless some sort of trad session (maybe have a TV for big matches, but I'm not sure on that one) and be a place for people to chat and have a beer. You could feel safe bringing your girlfriend there, and it would have wine, soft drinks and tayto in addition to beer. Also maybe stock a range of fancy beer with high mark-ups in addition to the normal beer. Maybe during the day it could function like a café.
I know this doesn't sound like much of a money spinner, but the business model would be more in line with that of a café. As I said it would be a family type business, you wouldn't have the cost of a full licence, and as there would be no spirits everything would be more tame and civilised. By keeping things simple costs could be kept down.
I think it could work out if it targetted the over 25s. Whenever I meet my friends for drinks we rarely drink spirits until we are in some sort of late bar, so we wouldn't feel put out by the lack of spirits. I suppose the ladies are more spirits inclined, but its not like a business has to keep everyone happy to work. It would be a niche.
Does this sound like Geoffs to anyone else.???0 -
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What I was thinking of (I've no wish to run my own business so I'll give away my idea for free) is a bar that would be fairly small in size, like an old traditional Irish pub. It would be small enough to be run by one person with a few staff. It would play no music unless some sort of trad session (maybe have a TV for big matches, but I'm not sure on that one) and be a place for people to chat and have a beer. You could feel safe bringing your girlfriend there, and it would have wine, soft drinks and tayto in addition to beer. Also maybe stock a range of fancy beer with high mark-ups in addition to the normal beer. Maybe during the day it could function like a café.
I know this doesn't sound like much of a money spinner, but the business model would be more in line with that of a café. As I said it would be a family type business, you wouldn't have the cost of a full licence, and as there would be no spirits everything would be more tame and civilised. By keeping things simple costs could be kept down.
I think it could work out if it targetted the over 25s. Whenever I meet my friends for drinks we rarely drink spirits until we are in some sort of late bar, so we wouldn't feel put out by the lack of spirits. I suppose the ladies are more spirits inclined, but its not like a business has to keep everyone happy to work. It would be a niche.
did u just describe philly grimes????????0 -
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What I was thinking of (I've no wish to run my own business so I'll give away my idea for free) is a bar that would be fairly small in size, like an old traditional Irish pub. It would be small enough to be run by one person with a few staff. It would play no music unless some sort of trad session (maybe have a TV for big matches, but I'm not sure on that one) and be a place for people to chat and have a beer. You could feel safe bringing your girlfriend there, and it would have wine, soft drinks and tayto in addition to beer. Also maybe stock a range of fancy beer with high mark-ups in addition to the normal beer. Maybe during the day it could function like a café.
I know this doesn't sound like much of a money spinner, but the business model would be more in line with that of a café. As I said it would be a family type business, you wouldn't have the cost of a full licence, and as there would be no spirits everything would be more tame and civilised. By keeping things simple costs could be kept down.
I think it could work out if it targetted the over 25s. Whenever I meet my friends for drinks we rarely drink spirits until we are in some sort of late bar, so we wouldn't feel put out by the lack of spirits. I suppose the ladies are more spirits inclined, but its not like a business has to keep everyone happy to work. It would be a niche.
Sounds like you just described Phil Grimes down to a tee.0 -
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