The Witch and the Dog R**ist

when me and my friends first ran into it we were a bit annoyed (not as much as the javalin glitch) but I had sort of pre empted the class, as my earlier posts from the games initial week it was the loadout I was aiming for as I guessed it would be pretty powerful. I havnt actually used it yet because of me moving house I havnt been played online much in the last week or so and I have 5 or so more kills to unlock it for my magnum.

But since exposed to it to of my friends have done up counters.

One puts the underbarrel shotgun on his assault rifles and switches to it when in enclosed spaces and even has gotten quick enough at it to switch when he see's one running at him and floors him just metres away.

The other uses a combination of sit rep pro and ninja pro (I think?) which makes the footsteps of your opponents much louder and makes your own silent, he can pretty pre empt them now.

but they are both much better players then me.


I think its sort of like chopper attack, initial response is to assume the worse and cry op, but a solution presents itself at some point...

though personnally I have not worked out the double shotties yet

minotour wrote: »

I ran into a couple of them last night on Sabotage, they had no interest in planting the bomb or defending their base...........t'was a pity as up to that point we had two fairly good teams in play then ppl naturally started to get pissed off and left.

I dont mind if thats what some folk enjoy but at least stay out of the strategy games. Think back to the earliest online games, unreal etc, there was no way this would be tolerated, having said that I reckon these guys earliest online game is COD4 which they've been playing for 2 years straight, giving them an average age of 2-ish.

I hate when that happens, I used to use the 'Witch' class minus the tactical knife but whenever I played Sabotage or another game, I always went for the bomb and tried to plant it.

It was funny last night. I joined a game on estate and the other team were clearly just trying to get their kill death ratios up. Two of them had about 35 kills and the rest had about 20 and the most a player had on my team was ten. They were staying up and around the house sniping. Anyway, I got out a sniper rifle and with about 2 minutes to go we managed to plant the bomb and I had a harrier strike so used that and we won. I say they were pretty shocked.

I was playing in sub base last night, and picked off a DSD guy. I ditched my Stinger and picked up his akimbo 1887's. Have to say I found it pretty startling how much easier it was to pick people off. The accuracy of them seems very high, too much so possibly. I got about 5 kills with them, before getting picked off. But as I wandered around the map, I seemed to keep running over "Press X to pickup akimbo 1887's" options. So either there were a few of them playing that class, or the one guy kept getting killed off fairly quickly.

It'll certainly be something I'll look at unlocking the akimbo once I get to level 67 and unlock the 1887's. But I would suspect I'll stick to an AR as primary weapon. I do like using a shotgun though for close-in areas such as streets of favela, corridors of Skidrow etc.

hmmm the last patch has seemed to have taken some of the speed out of my witch setup seem to be moving a small bit slower then before anyone else notice this?

Are these patches just on the PC, or consoles too?

Have been trying this 'Witch' class a go for the past two days. It is alot of fun! Works very well on the wide open maps and very good fun on favela!

Maybe make shotgun a 'heavier' weapon to slow down witches who use them

'The Witch' doesn't use a shotgun I believe, just a handgun with the Tactical Knife attachment

Varik wrote:

There is a build in Modern Warfare 2 - Tactical Knife, Commando, Marathon, and Lightweight - that we have taken to calling the Witch

And, in the situations where someone is going around with Akimbo Rangers/1887's, I doubt reduced movement speed will hinder them, since if they catch you at a corner, you're going to have a fair job of trying to outrun them before you get blown away :P

Although, on the point of shotgun range, that is a pain in the ass - being one-shotted by a single shotgun from (what would appear to be) a fairly big range (~distance between the two alley-ways leading from Point C to Point B on Karachi) is annoying as hell :<

ive actually used this class from the start with a MP5K and after eventually unlocking the tactical knife with my magnum I found it very easy to go around stabbing people.

Ive driopped the tactical knife though as I was playing Karchi a few days ago and our teamgot destroyed on sabotage by a guy doing the above, I found it funny for a few rounds but have since dropped it.

Varik wrote: »

I don't know why people think a shotgun has such a low range, it further than you think.
most games have a range far greater than their shown in games.
the thing a pisses me off is how short the effective range of smg is compared to reality.

Thing is, reality has nothing to do with the weapons in COD, it should be all about how they're balanced against one another.

Played my first game in over a week today and i can safely say there is still witchs and double shotgunners around in every match. Altho i did kill the same Witch 4 times in a row on underpass when i was holding down a building! (Can only imagine how sick he was!!)☺

I tried this witch class out today, it's fun but meh, doesn't make you invincible or anything!

Yeah I think the Witch class is fun but you're not gonna rack up a great kill/death ratio because you get killed a lot aswell.

The Rangers are a different story now. I really love killing them by using my stealth class.

The game is brilliant though. I love the fact that you can counter these sort of classes aswell.