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Velib like bicycle rental kiosks are being constructed in Dublin

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭cable842


    I think there should be a guy or girl standing there.

    you walk over sign your name to it take the bike cycle it into town or wherever you want they drop it off the bike to another vendor simple as that.

    if you damage it you have to pay simple as that they have your address and phone number. But not debited no way thats a hefty fine on your credit card.

    They got the bikes for free with this bill boards for bikes deal.

    They Should give them out for free.

    Simple as that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    cable842 wrote: »
    but if guy damages the bike your cycling there a big debit on your credit card.
    If someone breaks the bike while your cycling it, i'd say you have bigger problems.
    the bikes should be free just like the are in copenhagen. simple as that
    Free for 30mins sounds reasonable to me at least, just keeps management/supply of the bikes good.
    typical irish always having to pay.

    when the rest of europe is laughing at us paying for them.
    Other than, oh i don't know maybe Paris and Lyon who have the same system?
    I was in copenhagen and the bikes were amazin to use. they werent the crappy bikes they are giving us.
    Copenhagen is one of the best city's in the world for cycling, we can't be expected to go from 0 to 120...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    cable842 wrote: »
    I think there should be a guy or girl standing there.
    And the cost of all those people? that wouldn't be free, or remotely cheap....
    you walk over sign your name to it take the bike cycle it into town or wherever you want they drop it off the bike to another vendor simple as that.
    You more or less do this with the unattended system
    if you damage it you have to pay simple as that they have your address and phone number. But not debited no way thats a hefty fine on your credit card.
    I don't understand the difference here, its only debited from your credit card if you damage/loose it. They would have to hire debt collectors if they relied on retrieving the money just having people's address/phone number, which would be obviously far messier.
    They got the bikes for free with this bill boards for bikes deal.

    They Should give them out for free.

    Simple as that.

    And they pretty much do give them out for free. The charges in place arn't to make money, they are to ensure reasonable care is taken and good service for users.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Somehow, at €10 a year, I doubt if all of Europe is pointing and laughing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    cable842 wrote: »
    the bikes should be free just like the are in copenhagen. simple as that

    typical irish always having to pay.

    when the rest of europe is laughing at us paying for them.
    Not in Paris they're not. The most militant, strike-prone people in the EU don't seem to have a problem with paying, as was already pointed out to you last week.
    The Paris scheme seems to have an annual subscription of €29.

    http://www.en.velib.paris.fr/abonnements_tarifs/abonnement_1_an

    cable842 wrote: »
    I was in copenhagen and the bikes were amazin to use. they werent the crappy bikes they are giving us.

    the were slim line fast really cool bikes.

    Is this your idea of cool?
    would you pay to ride this?
    4556987-Free_bikes-Copenhagen.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    cable842 wrote: »
    I think there should be a guy or girl standing there.

    you walk over sign your name to it take the bike cycle it into town or wherever you want they drop it off the bike to another vendor simple as that.

    if you damage it you have to pay simple as that they have your address and phone number. But not debited no way thats a hefty fine on your credit card.

    They got the bikes for free with this bill boards for bikes deal.

    They Should give them out for free.

    Simple as that.

    They should have a guy standing there in evening wear handing out refreshments for when you're tired after your cycle.

    For free.

    Simple as that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,585 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Can we start an online petition to have aerobars fitted to the bikes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    tunney wrote: »
    Can we start an online petition to have aerobars fitted to the bikes?

    Wouldn't that just obstruct the basket?!?!?!?:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭cable842


    would you like your credit card debited 150 euro cause some guy came over to you on the street knocked you off the bike and started damaging your bike.

    I cycle in town a lot. on the north side people dont mind you cycling at all.

    Now on the south side of the liffey cobble stones and all. I have nearly been punched pushed off the bike Ive had people screaming at me and Im just cycling by them on the road.

    its mad no lie this has happened. but never had one problem on the southside cycling at all.

    point being I think debit is a bad system. it can get people into debit with one small incident


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    cable842 wrote: »
    I think there should be a guy or girl standing there.
    40 stations,
    20ish hours a day availability (05:00 - 00:30 i think?)
    assuming no lunch breaks
    assuming no PRSI costs or other employment costs
    assuming minimum wage:

    8.65 * 40 * 20 = €6,920 per day
    365 days a year = € 2,525,800 a year.

    Minimum cost, not including cost of bike maintenance, or moving them between stations when some fill up (I saw a truck this morning doing just that)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 mebike


    cable842 wrote: »

    I cycle in town a lot. on the north side people dont mind you cycling at all.

    Now on the south side of the liffey cobble stones and all. I have nearly been punched pushed off the bike Ive had people screaming at me and Im just cycling by them on the road.

    its mad no lie this has happened. but never had one problem on the southside cycling at all.

    Eh What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,515 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Wouldn't that just obstruct the basket?!?!?!?:)

    Rear-mounted baskets, with seatstay-mounted fairings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    cable842 wrote: »
    would you like your credit card debited 150 euro cause some guy came over to you on the street knocked you off the bike and started damaging your bike.
    To be honest i'd be far more worried about him damaging me than the bike.....
    I cycle in town a lot. on the north side people dont mind you cycling at all.

    Now on the south side of the liffey cobble stones and all. I have nearly been punched pushed off the bike Ive had people screaming at me and Im just cycling by them on the road.

    its mad no lie this has happened. but never had one problem on the southside cycling at all.
    Huh? on the north side people don't mind you cycling, on the south side you've nearly been pushed off. But you've never had a problem on the southside?
    point being I think debit is a bad system. it can get people into debit with one small incident

    So you'd rather they would have to put up a 150euro bond to use the system? i think that would be a much worse idea.....


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    This is why I never hire a car. You never know, some madmen might attack me with hammers and wreck the car and I'll be left having to pay for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭Gavin


    I think the cable guy might be onto something here. We should band together and teach those southside ruffians a thing or two. I mean really, with their so called 'pedestrian' cobbled area. They're cobbled for a reason peds !! It's so as you can't walk on them! Jaysus. Morons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭DualFrontDiscs


    el tonto wrote: »
    This is why I never hire a car. You never know, some madmen might attack me with hammers and wreck the car and I'll be left having to pay for it.
    This is why I never leave the house. It's all made up. All my mileage is done on boards. I am a dog. I've said it now........

    DFD <woof>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭jimogr


    Ste.phen wrote: »
    ...moving them between stations when some fill up (I saw a truck this morning doing just that)

    Thats interesting. I've noticed that the stations on greek street and bolton street are filling up completely in the late evenings. I guess the only real solution to this is to add more stands at those stations.

    I wonder how the contract between the city council and JCDecaux works for expanding the scheme if demand is there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Gavin wrote: »
    I mean really, with their so called 'pedestrian' cobbled area. They're cobbled for a reason peds !! It's so as you can't walk on them! Jaysus. Morons.

    Exactly. It's so we can re-enact moments from Paris-Roubaix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    jimogr wrote: »
    Thats interesting. I've noticed that the stations on greek street and bolton street are filling up completely in the late evenings. I guess the only real solution to this is to add more stands at those stations.

    Been caught my this as well, cycled to Smithfield on Wednesday evening but no space available, ditto Bolton St, then went to Greek St and lucked out as it was full but someone was taking one out just as I arrived.
    It was a day when traffic would have been very bad because of the DB/Luas crash so I reasoned that the vans weren't able to move the bikes, but it sounds from talking to a few people that the situation isn't much different any evening at these stands.
    Also no bikes at all in Earlsfort Terrace last evening at 6.30PM.

    Still I guess some teething problems are to be expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭DualFrontDiscs


    Been caught my this as well, cycled to Smithfield on Wednesday evening but no space available, ditto Bolton St, then went to Greek St and lucked out as it was full but someone was taking one out just as I arrived.
    It was a day when traffic would have been very bad because of the DB/Luas crash so I reasoned that the vans weren't able to move the bikes, but it sounds from talking to a few people that the situation isn't much different any evening at these stands.
    Also no bikes at all in Earlsfort Terrace last evening at 6.30PM.

    Still I guess some teething problems are to be expected.

    One of the big issues is the lack of credit card terminals at most locations. For example, there are two stations on Merrion Square. One station is always full of bikes. The other station always has spaces. Guess which one has a credit card terminal? Until more people have annual passes, this will remain a problem. In the example above, Wilton Terrace (Earlsfort Terrace) has a credit card terminal.

    DFD.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    its hard for the full/empty bike racks at commuter time to be avoided, from random poking around smithfield seems to be empty every morning pretty much as people come in, with that happening in reverse in the evening. And its the one time of day they can't really re-balance the bikes easily


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    That could be solved if the scheme expanded geographically in a big way (but it could be years before that happens), if you look at the map now it seems Eccles St / Hardwicke St / Blessington St / Mountjoy Square are all close to empty.
    I'd hazard they'll all be full at about 7 PM. People from those areas are cycling towards the city in the morning, and back out in the evening, but otherwise there's not much movement there.
    Maybe if there were stations further north, those would empty first, and the ones I mentioned wouldn't be so empty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭Floodzie


    Lumen wrote: »
    Rear-mounted baskets, with seatstay-mounted fairings.

    I think the front-mounted basket is a good idea - you can keep an eye on your bag. Although I'd still wrap the lock around it or loop the straps over the handlebars. Those open baskets are going to look fairly tempting to thieves...

    Applied for my card on Monday and still no sign of it. Can't wait! I live near the Barge so I can get a bike at Portobello bridge or Leeson St bridge and cycle to Merrion Sq. The roads are fairly decent for my journey so I'm lucky. I work near Pearse St flats but there's no bike stands there (I wonder why...) the next one is on the northside of James Joyce bridge. Still gets me most of the way to work though.

    Hopefully the scheme proves popular, despite RTE Radio talking it down on the first day ('the bikes are more girls' bikes' - ffs. They're free and get me to work, who needs a crossbar?? Not like I need to compensate for anything :-).

    They've learned a lot from Paris, and they seem to have addressed the problems they had there (mainly bikes being nicked because you couldn't be sure they were locked properly. The ones here give a beep when locked correctly).

    Best of luck to 'em, hopefully it'll cause people to pressure their councillors to make the city more bike-friendly!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,053 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    How does the cable lock thingy work.

    Favorite commuter routes will always be unbalanced in one direction. You'll just have to get there early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭Floodzie


    BostonB wrote: »
    How does the cable lock thingy work.

    Favorite commuter routes will always be unbalanced in one direction. You'll just have to get there early.

    I was talking to a woman manning the bike stands on the first day (showing people how to use them) and she said you wrap the cable around something and put the end where the bike stand connector would normally go (the other end is permanently attached to the bike), then a key pops out. I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    cable842 wrote: »
    would you like your credit card debited 150 euro cause some guy came over to you on the street knocked you off the bike and started damaging your bike.
    AMAZING!!!
    What if someone saw you coming out of the video shop, punched you in the face, and started play frisbee with the DVD?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭jimogr


    Floodzie wrote: »
    ...she said you wrap the cable around something and put the end where the bike stand connector would normally go (the other end is permanently attached to the bike), then a key pops out. I think.

    Yeah thats it - a real nifty system.

    I was locking one of them on the first day outside a shop, and a taxi driver came over to give out about all the business he would be losing because of the bikes... Real nasty about it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    jimogr wrote: »
    I was locking one of them on the first day outside a shop, and a taxi driver came over to give out about all the business he would be losing because of the bikes... Real nasty about it...
    Does he hate Dublin bus too? and the luas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭blue chuzzle


    cable842 wrote: »
    but if guy damages the bike your cycling there a big debit on your credit card.

    what happens if you rent a bike, leave it back to a stand and walk away only for someone else to come along 10 minutes later with a hammer and bash the bike to bits?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Hmm, 6,000 people signed up so far, not bad really.


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