Operational Guidelines for Youthreach

connorj2005 · 13-08-2009 02:39PM #1

Hi.
Was just wondering if anyone had seen or heard anything about the new operational guidelines for Youthreach?

spurious · 13-08-2009 05:18PM

Operational guidelines like what?
I haven't heard anything and don't see anything about it on the TUI site.

connorj2005 · 13-08-2009 05:32PM

It's supposedly a new set of operating guidelines for all youthreach centres arising from the Value For Money report last year. It was due out in April of this year but as of yet I haven't seen anything

gconor101 · 02-09-2009 09:17PM

Yeah, there due still...,

have heard some interesting points on the grape vine. min of 28 contact teaching hours, decrease in the summer programme some vec's are possibly going with a complete removal of the summer programme, recommendation that centres have more resource staff (+1 or 2) with a removal of part-time teachers altogether (how that sits with the Education act I'm not too sure) amongst others. We've started implementing the 28 hour rule. Not going down well with the students though.

PS Do you know of any PT Youthreach teachers that have got CID's? Our VEC is saying that the 'course funding cannot be guaranteed' as objectionable grounds. Does this mean that Youthreach is for the chop?

connorj2005 · 03-09-2009 07:38AM

We have also gone to the 28 hour week and are having the same problems. I've also heard that they are planning a 6 week closure for the summer instead of 4 weeks which will curtail our floating days.

I do personally know of one part time teacher who got a CID in Youthreach. Same conditions for all of us, ie working the same hours for four years etc. He had to fight to get it, but he did get it.

Bally8 · 03-09-2009 02:44PM

I was a part-time tutor with Youtheach until 2 years ago then I got a temp position of full time Resource covering sick leave. Then last September I got my CID and had a choice between part time tutor hours or part time Resource. I am now one of about 5 part time resource workers in our county. In my center all our staff, part-time and full time have CIDs. Those who didnt get them last September were let go.

implausible · 03-09-2009 08:43PM

connorj2005 wrote: »

I do personally know of one part time teacher who got a CID in Youthreach.

There are some CIDs being given out to YR staff in some counties. The flip-side is possible redeployment to other schools/centres as it's the VEC who give out the CID.

gconor101 · 06-09-2009 08:07PM

deemark wrote: »

There are some CIDs being given out to YR staff in some counties. The flip-side is possible redeployment to other schools/centres as it's the VEC who give out the CID.

I could live with redeployment if necessary but I'd rather stay in YR.

chesera · 08-09-2009 09:46AM

This operating guidelines stuff is very sinister since no one can find out what they are.
This is basically a cost cutting measure where the VEC are Sacrificing Youthreach staff on the altar of government cutbacks and are merrily ignoring agreements and circular letters that had previously stood for ages.

nifheorais · 21-09-2009 10:48PM

Will the teaching year be shortened?
By the way What does the term 'short breaks at christmas and Easter' as per contract for resource staff mean? At xmas eg is that just 25th Dec?

What is the pupil/teacher ratio for Youthreach ?I am wondering if it is 12?

chesera · 22-09-2009 09:38AM

Resource staff get less holidays than teaching staff. If VECs push the resouce thing its because its to save money though they will argue its best for students. Its not good for teaching staff.

chesera · 25-09-2009 09:04PM

spurious wrote: »

Operational guidelines like what?
I haven't heard anything and don't see anything about it on the TUI site.

The TUI (Annette Dolan) sent a letter to TUI reps in Youthreach Last Monday week saying there are no new operational guidelines as yet issued from DES

Bally8 · 26-09-2009 08:56AM

Its on draft 3 at the moment and not ready to publish yet

chesera · 26-09-2009 07:35PM

How do you know this? Are you working in Youthreach. Is your VEC working with these guidelines, but how can they since theyre not the subject of agreement with the unions. Will the unions agree to new operating guidelines?

Bally8 · 27-09-2009 06:59AM

I work for Youthreach yes. To be honest I know nothing about the unions. It was stated at a recent regional meeting that the operational guidelines were now on draft 3 and would be coming shortly. Thats all I know.

chesera · 27-09-2009 09:48AM

Bally8 wrote: »

I work for Youthreach yes. To be honest I know nothing about the unions. It was stated at a recent regional meeting that the operational guidelines were now on draft 3 and would be coming shortly. Thats all I know.

Thanks Bally8. Do you think the VECs will legally be able to impose new working conditions on teachers in Youthreach who have been working under pro rata teaching contracts? Feeling very nervous because its not a good time to be looking for alternative work in mainstream.

gconor101 · 11-01-2011 10:43PM

okay, now that the guidelines have been seen and the TUI have discussed them with YR staff, does anyone know when they'll be implemented?

Bally8 · 12-01-2011 07:22PM

gconor101 wrote: »

okay, now that the guidelines have been seen and the TUI have discussed them with YR staff, does anyone know when they'll be implemented?

Cant say I know when they will be implemented but for some reason my VEC has decided to pick one thing out of it (sick days entitlement) and has been implementing it since the guidelines went to the TUI !!

danish pasterys · 13-11-2012 01:50AM

Hi I'm just wondering what are the qualification requirements of teaching in youth reach will a social studies degree get me anywhere along with maybe a train the trainer course? This is my long term goal any info be appreciated thank you

nifheorais · 13-01-2013 10:33PM

danish pasterys wrote: »

Hi I'm just wondering what are the qualification requirements of teaching in youth reach will a social studies degree get me anywhere along with maybe a train the trainer course? This is my long term goal any info be appreciated thank you

One must be registered with the Teaching Council to teach in Yr.

Operational Guidelines for Youthreach

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