Velib like bicycle rental kiosks are being constructed in Dublin

Jawgap · 27-05-2009 10:29AM

taconnol wrote: »

Thanks for that. OK two omissions I see:

Heuston Station
Somewhere near Aston Quay - I know space is of a premium though here.

Overall, I'm pleasantly surprised how close stations are to DART and Luas stations. *faints in shock*

I think Elaine mentioned in her post why they couldn't put one at Heuston - hopefully they'll rectify that in due course.

kenmc · 27-05-2009 10:30AM

Kona what are you rabbiting on about now? The advertising signs are not confined to the Northside, they are on the southside of the city too. I don't know if there are any in blackrock, cos I've not been there in a good while, similarly I don't know if there are any in Howth; of course by your logical reasoning if there are no signs in Howth, then people from Howth should not be allowed to use the velibs either?
Seriously dude, you should go to the doctor to get that chip removed from your shoulder.

Nietzschean · 27-05-2009 10:34AM

kona wrote: »

as usual.:mad:

At this stage i reckon everytime a d4 head loike flushes the toilet loike, the posh **** is pumper over to the northside loike. Its okay though posh **** smells loike hugo boss loike and looks all fake tanned and hairy loike:pac:

Finished yet?

Ghost Rider · 27-05-2009 10:34AM

Howth would fall under the remit of Fingal County Council anyway.

kenmc wrote: »

Kona what are you rabbiting on about now? The advertising signs are not confined to the Northside, they are on the southside of the city too. I don't know if there are any in blackrock, cos I've not been there in a good while, similarly I don't know if there are any in Howth; of course by your logical reasoning if there are no signs in Howth, then people from Howth should not be allowed to use the velibs either?
Seriously dude, you should go to the doctor to get that chip removed from your shoulder.

Jawgap · 27-05-2009 10:35AM

We don't have chips on our shoulders on DNS - unless they're covered in curry sauce.

The signs are an eye sore wherever they are, but they may be worth it if the bike bit of the scheme works.

I have a nagging feeling though that in a few years the signs will still be with us while the bikes will be long gone........but I really hope I'm wrong; that the scheme is a success and that it's expanded (without the signs:)) to other parts of Dublin and other local authorities

Personally, I'm looking forward to using them.

I wonder what the legal situation is if someone is injured while using them? I can see the scheme being done down by such claims rather than by vandalism.

kenmc · 27-05-2009 10:41AM

Ghost Rider wrote: »

Howth would fall under the remit of Fingal County Council anyway.

Exactly, in the same way Blackrock is under DLRCC.

Ghost Rider · 27-05-2009 10:44AM

I share that hope, but also that suspicion. I wonder does the agreement between JC Decaux and DCC allow for this eventuality (i.e. that the advertising signs be taken down if the bike scheme is discontinued...)

If not, DCC would effectively have given away chunks of public space to a private interest.

Jawgap wrote: »

I have a nagging feeling though that in a few years the signs will still be with us while the bikes will be long gone........but I really hope I'm wrong; that the scheme is a success and that it's expanded (without the signs:)) to other parts of Dublin and other local authorities

penexpers · 27-05-2009 10:59AM

Sorry I just wanted to say **** ****** *****

Somehow seems appropiate.

L'Enfer du Nord · 27-05-2009 11:20AM

kona wrote: »

local counciller will just go yup yup yup, well look into that....VOTE number 1.:rolleyes:
shower of ****, Ive people wanting my vote who aint from my area of even done anything for it.

It was a counciller who AFAIK organised this farce, and probably a brown envelope for himself.

Fact remains, ive these black eyesores all over my area, would you find them in blackrock?? Nope.

But can sombody from blackrock use them? yes.

I'm from Blackrock, but I live in Galway. No sure where this puts me vis-a-vis velib use/exposure to JCD signs.

But I'll make a few points with regard to cycling in and from B'rock. There were a load of bike racks next to the cross on the main street which were removed for a Christmas tree about five years ago. Come New Years only a few were put back, I think we lose a few more every Christmas.

The cycle path facilities are much better on the Contarf coast road than on the south side coast road.

We have to put up with a lot more oversized SUVs. (Galway is just as bad!)

kona · 27-05-2009 12:36PM

kenmc wrote: »

Kona what are you rabbiting on about now? The advertising signs are not confined to the Northside, they are on the southside of the city too. I don't know if there are any in blackrock, cos I've not been there in a good while, similarly I don't know if there are any in Howth; of course by your logical reasoning if there are no signs in Howth, then people from Howth should not be allowed to use the velibs either?
Seriously dude, you should go to the doctor to get that chip removed from your shoulder.

Dont patronise me.

The chip is a crater, and you would have one too if you lived near me.

What parts of the southside are they in? Id be willing to bet they most definatley are not in the more middle to upper class areas, if they are, im very suprised.

Everybody should be allowed use velibs.

..... but everybody should have to put up with the consequenses of the contract, not plonk the majority of the ads on the northside or in less well off areas of the southside(if its DCC it will be inner city) then hand the majority of the bikes to the southside.

Thats what Im "rabbiting" on about, so do you agree with JCdecaux and DCC?

kona · 27-05-2009 12:39PM

L'Enfer du Nord wrote: »

I'm from Blackrock, but I live in Galway. No sure where this puts me vis-a-vis velib use/exposure to JCD signs.

But I'll make a few points with regard to cycling in and from B'rock. There were a load of bike racks next to the cross on the main street which were removed for a Christmas tree about five years ago. Come New Years only a few were put back, I think we lose a few more every Christmas.

The cycle path facilities are much better on the Contarf coast road than on the south side coast road.

We have to put up with a lot more oversized SUVs. (Galway is just as bad!)

If you look at the areas that cyce track passes through, you will also notice that, howth, sutton and clontarf would all be considerd to be quite middle to upper class.

You wont see ad boards in these areas either:rolleyes:

Nietzschean · 27-05-2009 12:42PM

kona wrote: »

..... but everybody should have to put up with the consequenses of the contract, not plonk the majority of the ads on the northside or in less well off areas of the southside(if its DCC it will be inner city) then hand the majority of the bikes to the southside.

So southside inner city too? so your complaining about the adverts being in the south and north side inner city....odd i'm pretty sure thats where all the bikes are too ?

Nietzschean · 27-05-2009 12:44PM

kona wrote: »

If you look at the areas that cyce track passes through, you will also notice that, howth, sutton and clontarf would all be considerd to be quite middle to upper class.

You wont see ad boards in these areas either:rolleyes:

Yeah you won't see any of the bikes there either? i think you picked terrible places to have some sort of random principled stand. By your view the inner city should get the bikes but because other people can visit there the adverts should go everywhere? Isn't that something like we should pay english road tax incase we go over there with a car?

petethedrummer · 27-05-2009 12:45PM

Kona Phone/Write/Email your local representatives. I cycle those routes home. I'll have a look out for advertising and report back

Also on location of the stations, wasn't there a website where you could vote on where the velib stations were located or did I dream it?

c0rk3r · 27-05-2009 12:49PM

Can you tell us where your from Kona ? And also is there a map pinpointing every jcdeux advertisment throughout Dublin so we can see the areas where these ads are concentrated ?

Stark · 27-05-2009 12:51PM

kona wrote: »

If you look at the areas that cyce track passes through, you will also notice that, howth, sutton and clontarf would all be considerd to be quite middle to upper class.

You wont see ad boards in these areas either:rolleyes:

Howth and Sutton are in Fingal CoCo's jurisdiction. DCC has no control over what gets put up there. Blackrock comes under Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown.

kona · 27-05-2009 12:53PM

Nietzschean wrote: »

So southside inner city too? so your complaining about the adverts being in the south and north side inner city....odd i'm pretty sure thats where all the bikes are too ?

do you even know what your talking about?

have you seen where the signs are? I havnt seen many on the north inner city, just east wall, then mainly around the malahide road/ M50.

DCC has Inner city dublin(north and south) then most of the northside.

Since they agreed the deal the ad space is in their area(South inner city:rolleyes: and the northside)

However people living in DCC have to put up with these signs. Since everybody can use the bikes, why cant they be put in Fingal, DLRCC, SDCC etc?
Thats the question I ask.

kona · 27-05-2009 12:55PM

Stark wrote: »

Howth and Sutton are in Fingal CoCo's jurisdiction. DCC has no control over what gets put up there. Blackrock comes under Dún Laoighre-Rathdown.

This is going off topic, DCC is the main player in the northside, yes some areas arnt under their juristiction.

Im talkng about why people in DCC(mainly N.side), have to put up with these eyesores, when people in other areas dont?

Yet everybody can use them, Im just saying some people are paying more than others;) which isnt the way it should be.

Then ironically, there are more ads on the northside and more bikes on the southside:mad:

Stark · 27-05-2009 12:57PM

kona wrote: »

This is going off topic, DCC is the main player in the northside, yes some areas arnt under their juristiction.

Im talkng about why people in DCC(mainly N.side), have to put up with these eyesores, when people in other areas dont?

Because it's DCC's project.

kona wrote:

However people living in DCC have to put up with these signs. Since everybody can use the bikes, why cant they be put in Fingal, DLRCC, SDCC etc?
Thats the question I ask.

Because the bike stands are based in the DCC area. Sure, someone coming up from Cork for the weekend can use the bikes. By your logic, we should put ads up around Cork as well. DCC has no power to put up either advertisements or bike stands outside its own border.

kona · 27-05-2009 12:58PM

c0rk3r wrote: »

Can you tell us where your from Kona ? And also is there a map pinpointing every jcdeux advertisment throughout Dublin so we can see the areas where these ads are concentrated ?

unfortunatley a DCC area, which has a heap of these ****ty dangerous ad signs in it.

I dont think a list of ad spaces are published.

TinyExplosions · 27-05-2009 12:58PM

kona wrote: »

However people living in DCC have to put up with these signs. Since everybody can use the bikes, why cant they be put in Fingal, DLRCC, SDCC etc?
Thats the question I ask.

Because the decision was made by DCC. That like saying that Cuba is Communist, but since anybody can visit cuba, why can't everyone be communist?

It's a service provided by DCC for their jurisdiction. It's not up to them what other councils do

kona · 27-05-2009 12:58PM

Stark wrote: »

Because it's DCC's project.

Then only DCC people should use it:rolleyes: (sarcasm)

Jawgap · 27-05-2009 12:59PM

kona wrote: »

If you look at the areas that cyce track passes through, you will also notice that, howth, sutton and clontarf would all be considerd to be quite middle to upper class.

You wont see ad boards in these areas either:rolleyes:

I cycle in along the coast road from Howth and once you get inside the city boundary there's a few. Can't say I've ever noticed any on the Howth Road, but I'll be looking this evening.

kona · 27-05-2009 01:00PM

Jawgap wrote: »

I cycle in along the coast road from Howth and once you get inside the city boundary there's a few. Can't say I've ever noticed any on the Howth Road, but I'll be looking this evening.

none on the howth road in DCC.

petethedrummer · 27-05-2009 01:00PM

kona wrote: »

However people living in DCC have to put up with these signs. Since everybody can use the bikes, why cant they be put in Fingal, DLRCC, SDCC etc?

DCC agreed the scheme. DCC/JC Deco put the signs in DCC areas. DCC/JC Deco are erecting the velib stations in DCC areas. You have to enter the DCC boundary to get a velib. You have to re-enter the DCC boundary to return a velib. Thats why the signs are also in the DCC region

As for the distribution of the signs. I'd guess they are mainly located in the areas of greatest traffic volumes within the DCC region, which at a guess would be up around the Malahide Road and M50 region. Living, as I do, on the Malahide road, I can verify it is very busy with traffic.

If the first scheme is a success it will be rolled out in other areas and cross contamination can occur.

Stark · 27-05-2009 01:02PM

kona wrote: »

Then only DCC people should use it:rolleyes: (sarcasm)

That's absolutely retarded. Maybe you should just stay confined to the DCC region yourself as you obviously shouldn't be using non-DCC facilities like roads and footpaths.

Chips Lovell · 27-05-2009 01:04PM

According to the map Ken provided, there are 14 stations north of the Liffey and 16 south of it, so no great inequality there.

Kona, instead of ranting, could you provide a link to where the advertising panels are located? I can find no breakdown of where exactly each one is. It would be useful to know what you're basing your assertions on.

Jawgap · 27-05-2009 01:05PM

Stark wrote: »

Because it's DCC's project.

Because the bike stands are based in the DCC area. Sure, someone coming up from Cork for the weekend can use the bikes. By your logic, we should put ads up around Cork as well. DCC has no power to put up either advertisements or bike stands outside its own border.

Yeah - I'm all for that - let's go wreck Cork, it shouldn't take us long!

kona wrote: »

This is going off topic, DCC is the main player in the northside, yes some areas arnt under their juristiction.

Im talkng about why people in DCC(mainly N.side), have to put up with these eyesores, when people in other areas dont?

Yet everybody can use them, Im just saying some people are paying more than others;) which isnt the way it should be.

Then ironically, there are more ads on the northside and more bikes on the southside:mad:

Maybe there's not as many on the southside because they are all poor now and once the repo man comes for their SUV's they won't be able to drive anywhere so no point in putting up signs that the people "over there" won't be able to drive by and see......

......meanwhile on DNS we're insulated from the recession because we're all on the dole and they haven't cut that so we've still some cash to spend!

I like the idea of not letting people from Cork use them - maybe anyone who lives more than 50 metres from one of the advertising units should be automatically prohibited from using them or at least charged doube - or be forced to use ones without saddles.......

kona · 27-05-2009 01:06PM

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Because the decision was made by DCC. That like saying that Cuba is Communist, but since anybody can visit cuba, why can't everyone be communist?

What? no its not.

Ok its a decision by DCC(typically **** one). But where are the benefits to the northside out of ths? where are the benefits to the people who have to look at these ads?

Fair enough if everybody can use them, but I am of the view that it shouldnt be the northside taking the pain for this.

If you live on the southside you pay your .50c and forget about it.

If you live Beside one of these signs you pay your .50c then go home and look at this big scaldy ad board.

Also the fact that DCC could have raised much needed money to upgrade infrastructure on the N.side from the sale of this ad space outright is extremely annoying.

seamus · 27-05-2009 01:06PM

kona wrote: »

Then only DCC people should use it:rolleyes: (sarcasm)

Dead right. Stay off the millenium bridge and keep out of Dublin parks, Stark you corkonian moocher!

Velib like bicycle rental kiosks are being constructed in Dublin

Comments