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Would like to buy a rolex

  • 10-04-2009 11:56AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭


    I Would like to buy a rolex - between 3-5k, seen nice gold/rosegold - dont know much about watches and have tried to find pricelists on the net but not much success - any links or pointers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Not sure dealers are allowed sell them online, apart from second hand ones obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭cojomo2


    john47832 wrote: »
    I Would like to buy a rolex - between 3-5k, seen nice gold/rosegold - dont know much about watches and have tried to find pricelists on the net but not much success - any links or pointers


    and u wanna spend 5grand on 1! man u must have a lot of cash burning a serious hole in your pocket! U can get bloody excellent copies that are quality and last the test of time..i have one..have seen them online for between 100-400 euro..and as you stated you dont know much about watches, i guarantee you, you would struggle to know the difference between the real and the fake..

    i got mine in bangkok, they range from 20-80euro there, 80 quids gets u a lovely one, or a breitling, which i think look way better....so i would suggest going on a lovely 2 week holiday to bangkok, living it up in some of the nicest hotels in the world and get a couple of good quality copies, and spend the remaining 4 grand on something worthwhile!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    Dont know much about watches, but I do know I dont want a fake - defeats the purpose, which is to own a nice rolex - as a reward for my hard work if you like :)

    Is there anywhere on the net where I can get a look at what I would get for that sort of money - has to be rolex


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Rolex have a pretty strong handle on their dealers. I would go to a dealer, maybe in Britain. Though Rolex insist the dealer prices are similar worldwide, so the usual Irish bit of hiking the price is not nearly as much an issue with them. Even if you could get one online, you may not get a warranty on it. Plus they are heavily faked as mentioned.

    The only way to get one online that you could be sure of is by going vintage/secondhand. You'll save a fair bit that way and maybe get something beyond the ordinary. Here's a sit I've dealt with and would trust http://finertimes.com/asp/watches/query.asp?Title=New+Today&SubTitle=+-+Rolex&TypeCode=0&Where=(tblUsers.Active%3Dtrue)+AND+(tblInventory.Archive%3DFalse)+AND+(tblInventory.FTUse%3DTrue)+AND+(((tblTransactions.Status)+Is+Null+Or+(tblTransactions.Status)%3D%27Pending%27))+AND+(Man_Code%3D%27100%27)&Page=1

    Do research. Thats the biggy. research research research. That way you'll get the watch you're looking for.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭anthony4335


    Dubai, is all I can say. Saved a fortune on my Omega, when a friend was going out there last year, just gave him the details, and he headed for the Omega shop.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    Sorry I'm not actually looking to purchase over the net - rather see whats on offer for that price range


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    john47832 wrote: »
    Is there anywhere on the net where I can get a look at what I would get for that sort of money - has to be rolex

    I'm firmly of the opinion that unless you're a second hand car salesman, a time traveller from the 70's, a fat middle aged guy who organises swinger parties, a pimp or a drug dealer, there's no reason to voluntarily wear a Rolex.

    Please have a look around before you spend €5,000 on a watch that's going to make you look bad. Really, they're awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    I'm firmly of the opinion that unless you're a second hand car salesman, a time traveller from the 70's, a fat middle aged guy who organises swinger parties, a pimp or a drug dealer, there's no reason to voluntarily wear a Rolex.

    Please have a look around before you spend €5,000 on a watch that's going to make you look bad. Really, they're awful.
    Is there something specific about the watches you don't like or is it just the people you see waring them that you don't like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,449 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    I'm firmly of the opinion that unless you're a second hand car salesman, a time traveller from the 70's, a fat middle aged guy who organises swinger parties, a pimp or a drug dealer, there's no reason to voluntarily wear a Rolex.

    Please have a look around before you spend €5,000 on a watch that's going to make you look bad. Really, they're awful.
    that's you're opinion, i think the OP has really got his heart set on a rolex. i find nothing wrong with rolex at all, they wouldn't be my style of watch but that doesn't mean they aren't someone elses :pac:


    http://www.watchfinders.co.uk/ have rolex on their site, don't know if the prices are competitive though but they seem pretty legit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    I think the date bubble really spoils the look, it's just not needed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Sean_K wrote: »
    Is there something specific about the watches you don't like or is it just the people you see waring them that you don't like?

    When I see a rolex, 3 Things pop into my head: Arthur Daley in a mohair jacket, a Porsche Cayenne, and 70's porn music.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭TMoreno


    When I see a rolex, 3 Things pop into my head: Arthur Daley in a mohair jacket, a Porsche Cayenne, and 70's porn music.
    Hey that's me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 799 ✭✭✭20/20


    john47832 from Ballyfermot are you a debt collector? there are not to many people who want to show of hard work with a ROLEX right now. Iam amazed that you feel you realy need something that you know nothing about,as a rolex will last a lifetime maybe you should wait for a few months to see if you are still worth as much as you think.But on the other hand there is a good feeling about owning a quality watch to show you have made it and to hell with the jealous begrudgers(you have already read there posts).First i suggest buy from a shop because the fakes look very real and even have forged papers and can even come in genuine boxes that are bought on ebay for only a fiver.The best shop is WEIRS they are the only authorized rolex dealer for east coast of Ireland,they have a free colour brochure with prices listed.The downside of weirs is because they are the only authorized dealer for the whole east coast they can charge whatever they like,but it will give you an idea on pricing. Then you look up http://www.lunns.com/ and give them a ring they are the norths authorized dealer,you may never buy in Ireland again when you see the price difference,then all you do is take a train to Belfast and grinn from ear to ear all the way home. Good luck with the hunt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    20/20 wrote: »
    john47832 from Ballyfermot are you a debt collector? there are not to many people who want to show of hard work with a ROLEX right now. Iam amazed that you feel you realy need something that you know nothing about,as a rolex will last a lifetime maybe you should wait for a few months to see if you are still worth as much as you think.But on the other hand there is a good feeling about owning a quality watch to show you have made it and to hell with the jealous begrudgers(you have already read there posts).First i suggest buy from a shop because the fakes look very real and even have forged papers and can even come in genuine boxes that are bought on ebay for only a fiver.The best shop is WEIRS they are the only authorized rolex dealer for east coast of Ireland,they have a free colour brochure with prices listed.The downside of weirs is because they are the only authorized dealer for the whole east coast they can charge whatever they like,but it will give you an idea on pricing. Then you look up http://www.lunns.com/ and give them a ring they are the norths authorized dealer,you may never buy in Ireland again when you see the price difference,then all you do is take a train to Belfast and grinn from ear to ear all the way home. Good luck with the hunt.

    i almost feel like i have to now defend my right to buy what i want or explain why i want it!!

    i wont bother :) but i will add no im not any of the above stereotypes that are on this thread, i think it would be good read to create a thread to see what people would buy for themselves or what people would see as a token of satisfaction (within reality of course), mine at this moment just happens to be rolex watch

    v useful link thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 799 ✭✭✭20/20


    john47832 i also meant to say you can not buy any new rolex with gold or rosegold in Ireland for 3-5k. It will buy a new rolex but not with any gold,you must also remember if you have a very large wrist and you need extra links for the watch bracelet they can cost over 100euro per link.If you want gold you may have to look at the secondhand market,but be carefull of fakes. There are some shops in Dublin that sell secondhand but only WEIRS are allowed sell new.I think some jewelers on Dawson St deal in secondhand.But remember call http://www.lunns.com/ and iam sure you will start using the words rip-off Ireland a lot more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    I'm firmly of the opinion that unless you're a second hand car salesman, a time traveller from the 70's, a fat middle aged guy who organises swinger parties, a pimp or a drug dealer, there's no reason to voluntarily wear a Rolex.

    Please have a look around before you spend €5,000 on a watch that's going to make you look bad. Really, they're awful.

    A toyota glanza makes you look bad - not a rolex


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Not that far off, they're about the same price! :)

    If you've got your heart set on a Rolex, go for it. But I would definitely try a few other things on your wrist first - don't buy a watch just for the name alone, you're walking into a trap.

    If you're interested in what people might buy, have a look in the Wishlist thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    As far as Joe public goes there's not too many watches other than rolex that say I'm loaded


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,545 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    dont mind the begrudgers on here John,

    my fiancee and her brother and sister bought their dad a bi metal datejust for his 60th from Dawson jewellers.

    I would imagine bi metal pre owned is your best bet as the rrp on any gold or bimetal rolex is out of budget.

    Try www.watchfinder.co.uk or blowers jewellers or even the sales forum on tz-uk.

    what kind of style do you like?

    Datejust - 36mm
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    Submariner 40mm
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    Yachtmaster 40mm
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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Always had a soft spot for the Submariner. I'd likely have the date bubble ground down though. I know, I know:eek::o:D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Gavin1


    Get a No-date sub,14060M(is the modern variant), the original of the species

    I have heard of people taking the cyclops eye off the Date Submariners(16610) also. But then that is a what-to-be Sea Dweller!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭phelixoflaherty


    Is there not a clock on yer mobile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Blackpitts


    this is the official price list of Rolex (year 2008), feel free to download it
    http://orologi.forumfree.net/?act=Attach&type=post&id=313717598

    it's in italian but you can easily figure out the model and the price on the right.

    Buy a GMT II, they are fantastic! ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,545 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    on all the modern ones they are just stuck on so they can be popped off by someone who knows how :)

    im with you on the anti cyclops wibbs, cant get on with them

    id love a gmt 2 ceramic with the cyclops removed :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 799 ✭✭✭20/20


    Ceramic makes me think of the tiles in the bathroom,so i had to look up ceramic watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrGmhg4Dgpg&feature=related


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭StealthRolex


    Hi John,

    Have you picked up a Rolex yet? If not there are loads of pointers out there. For pricing on the second had market one of the best places to start is watches.co.uk

    Have you any ideas on the styling you want? The reason I ask is that rose gold and steel and gold scream Rolex! which is great if that's what you. Otherwise there are plenty of "bargains" in the the plain steel sports and dress range.

    One word of advice is avoid buying in Dublin or Ireland. The second hand prices for a 10-20yr old here are the same as the new UK prices. If you have the readies it's worth the extra for the flight and hotel to go shopping in London, or if you can stretch to it New York.

    By the way - one of the pros of buying a second had Rolex, especially an all steel sports model, is that if an some stage in the future you need to sell it you can can almost all your money back. For some models you might even make a small profit but you'll need to buy the right one in the first place.

    Finally - feck the begrudgers! Yes they are expensive but bear in mind that Rolex is not a shareholder corporation. They do charge what they like because they can but a lot of the money winds up being reinvested in watchmakers and horological education. If you get you you will have a piece of mechanical technology that will last many lifetimes and can be passed on through generations.
    And when compared to watches from Harry Winston, Patek Phillippe or Breguet they are comparatively inexpensive for what they are - an extremely well made, go anywhere time keeping tool that looks good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭StealthRolex


    Cyrus wrote: »
    on all the modern ones they are just stuck on so they can be popped off by someone who knows how :)

    im with you on the anti cyclops wibbs, cant get on with them

    id love a gmt 2 ceramic with the cyclops removed :cool:

    I saw one in London about a year ago. Didn't look that great. Bear in mind that the new ones have anti-reflection underneath to make the cyclops more usable compared to the older one. If you really want the Sea Dweller "cool" look you're better off finding a friendly Rolex technician who will replace the crystal.

    Or better yet - buy both - a GMT and a Sea Dweller


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 bermuda


    20/20 wrote: »
    john47832 from Ballyfermot are you a debt collector? there are not to many people who want to show of hard work with a ROLEX right now. Iam amazed that you feel you realy need something that you know nothing about,as a rolex will last a lifetime maybe you should wait for a few months to see if you are still worth as much as you think.But on the other hand there is a good feeling about owning a quality watch to show you have made it and to hell with the jealous begrudgers(you have already read there posts).First i suggest buy from a shop because the fakes look very real and even have forged papers and can even come in genuine boxes that are bought on ebay for only a fiver.The best shop is WEIRS they are the only authorized rolex dealer for east coast of Ireland,they have a free colour brochure with prices listed.The downside of weirs is because they are the only authorized dealer for the whole east coast they can charge whatever they like,but it will give you an idea on pricing. Then you look up http://www.lunns.com/ and give them a ring they are the norths authorized dealer,you may never buy in Ireland again when you see the price difference,then all you do is take a train to Belfast and grinn from ear to ear all the way home. Good luck with the hunt.

    Actually Weir's prices are in line with MRP as defined by Rolex, so they dont essentially charge over and above as you may find in some shops in the UK. Even for in demand pieces like the Daytona for which almost inevitably you have to pay a premium in the UK.

    Lets us know how it goes........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    I am seriously considering going to UK to buy a second hand one, I really didnt want to buy second hand one because of the amount of fakes out there... but watches.co.uk seems to be fairly reputable, correct me if i'm wrong

    are there any reputable second hand shops in Ireland?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,545 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    john47832 wrote: »
    I am seriously considering going to UK to buy a second hand one, I really didnt want to buy second hand one because of the amount of fakes out there... but watches.co.uk seems to be fairly reputable, correct me if i'm wrong

    are there any reputable second hand shops in Ireland?

    watches.co.uk are very reputable, dawson jewellers on dawson street will have them aswell, altho they tend to be a little more helter skelter re having papers etc,

    id goto the uk if was you and go with either watches.co.uk or blowers jewellers.

    which model interests you


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