FULL BODY PAINT JOB

IK09 · 02-02-2009 11:15PM #1

Whats up,

Ive got an old run down 96 Lancer at ome and im going to give it a full paint job.

Im looking for any tips from anyone with experience and it will be hugely appriecated.

im going to strip the car first and havnt even started but from what i can see im going to have trouble getting the back left and right panels off. any advice you have on any of these areas (striping, painting, and them panels ) it will be wisely heeded.

or if you have a link or website that has any videos or plans that would be great.

Please please please dont tell me not to do it, to leave it to a pro because i can afford it and i want to do it myself , i want to make my dream car and i want to do it myself

Thanks

colm_mcm · 03-02-2009 12:06AM

A few problems you may encounter:

Solvent based paints were recently phased out, so you're looking at using water based paints.

you need to be working in a ventilated dust free environment unless you want the paint to have lots of speckles

You'll need some sort of heating

You'll need a proper spray gun, and know how to use it.

other than that it shouldn't be a problem.

IK09 · 03-02-2009 12:46AM

cheers man much appriecated , do you know anything about taking off panels?

colm_mcm · 03-02-2009 12:55AM

you'd be better off leaving them on. they all bolt off on a Lancer anyway.

PS. don't do it

colm_mcm · 03-02-2009 12:57AM

Are you spraying the car a different colour or something?

L-M · 03-02-2009 12:57AM

I'd advise you buy a Haynes manual as well. Can come in very handy. I'd advise you buy a panel from a scrappie, sand it down, spray it and dry it and see how it comes out before you go taking apart the car. Practice on something you won't be using rather than just starting on your car.

I think it'll be an awful pain in the arse, but if you have the time, effort and patience fair play to ya.

Lauder · 03-02-2009 12:58AM

IK09 wrote: »

Whats up,

Ive got an old run down 96 Lancer at ome and im going to give it a full paint job.

Im looking for any tips from anyone with experience and it will be hugely appriecated.

im going to strip the car first and havnt even started but from what i can see im going to have trouble getting the back left and right panels off. any advice you have on any of these areas (striping, painting, and them panels ) it will be wisely heeded.

or if you have a link or website that has any videos or plans that would be great.

Please please please dont tell me not to do it, to leave it to a pro because i can afford it and i want to do it myself , i want to make my dream car and i want to do it myself

Thanks

Would the paint job not cost more than the car (a 1996 Lancer)?? Is it worth it

colm_mcm · 03-02-2009 12:59AM

Lauder, this is about making a dream car. don't be coming up with logical reasons not to do it.

Some people dream about oddly painted Lancers

IK09 · 03-02-2009 01:18AM

Ya the car isnt worth a cent but u know the usual childhood dream stuff i wont bore ye. im gonna strip the interior and re-spray it. the colour is well worn but i hooked the car up to my own one by the battery and the engine was singing. it wont start on its own id say the battery wont hold the charge. it hasnt moved in 3years!!!

Does anyone know where i can get info on removing the panels...
the rear drivers side one is well damaged

IK09 · 03-02-2009 01:18AM

Cheers for the support colm

Cosmo K · 03-02-2009 01:25AM

IK09 wrote: »

Does anyone know where i can get info on removing the panels...
the rear drivers side one is well damaged

If you mean the rear quarter panel, well, thats welded on to the car.....this is where an angle grinder comes in handy.

Oh, and a welding machine, to weld it back on...

P.S.

Have you ever worked on cars before?

IK09 · 03-02-2009 01:28AM

ive never worked on a car ever so this is all new to me

i do have both an angle grinder and welder at my disposal but ive only ever tacked a trailer so nothin as complicated as car panels

IK09 · 09-02-2009 06:21PM

still lookin for advice tips etc guys keep them comin during the stripping process

maidhc · 09-02-2009 06:38PM

IK09 wrote: »

still lookin for advice tips etc guys keep them comin during the stripping process

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Car-Mechanics-Welding-Peter-Simpson/dp/1873098499

TomMc · 09-02-2009 06:40PM

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

or a tin of smooth hammerite.:D

tdc · 09-02-2009 10:26PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Lauder, this is about making a dream car. don't be coming up with logical reasons not to do it.

Some people dream about oddly painted Lancers

LMFAO!

dingding · 10-02-2009 12:02AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Lauder, this is about making a dream car. don't be coming up with logical reasons not to do it.

Some people dream about oddly badly painted Lancers

Hi Colm I fixed your post

NiSmO · 10-02-2009 12:02AM

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nialler · 10-02-2009 04:04AM

Remember watching one of these custom proggies on sky and they resprayed the doors, panels and bonnet in the wrong orientation (ie they hung them up so something to do with the way the paint flows would make it slightly different hue) so make sure your doors and whatever bits you're doing are oriented correctly to the body of the car.

Could be bull**** but it was an american show so more than likely.

lifer_sean · 10-02-2009 11:11AM

IK09 wrote: »

Does anyone know where i can get info on removing the panels...
the rear drivers side one is well damaged

Changing rear quarter panel is nothing remotely like a diy job. I've been working on cars part-time for 30 years and I wouldn't dream of taking this on. This job requires years of experience to get any half decent result, and I've seen lots of professionally done jobs that were very poor.

Sorry to rain on your enthusiasm, but you are totally underestimating this task. If you were time served as a panel beater and if you had a workshop with spray booth, alignment jig, spot welder, sanding equipment, proper compressor and spray gun, then you might have some hope.

Ordinary electric welder no good here (will burn through the panels). Angle grinder is a starting point but is by far the cheapest bit of kit on the shopping list.

Why is it that so many people think they can be a panel beater with no training and no tools ?

RS6 · 10-02-2009 01:23PM

A good machine polish can do wonders for a car.

Ive seen examples where before hand you'd be like, "that def needs a resray", only for the paint to look prefect after a good machine polish.

Got any pics of the condition of the paint?

IK09 · 12-02-2009 01:52PM

ill be posting pics soon. ive just started sanding around the door locks as i just moved out to an apartment where the job cant be done. got the car running pretty easily. Went to a salvage yard in galway on the headford road (highly recommended, very cheap and helpful), went there looking for a boot, ended up coming home with new doors, boot, bumpers, and rear light lens, and absolutely dirt cheap. i just fitted the doors, boot and front bumper.

Does anyone have any tips on sanding...which grit to use.....anything that will make the paint come off easier?

And im not trying to be a panel beater so take your "leave it to the pros" attitude, and pi ss off. its something I have wanted to do for ages and im gonna do it.

lifer_sean · 12-02-2009 02:15PM

IK09 wrote: »

And im not trying to be a panel beater so take your "leave it to the pros" attitude, and pi ss off. its something I have wanted to do for ages and im gonna do it.

As you wish. You came here asking for advice. You got honest advice based on a lot of experience. If you don't want to listen then why ask the question.

It's your car and your time, you are free to do whatever you want.

12-02-2009 04:41PM

Good luck IK09, sounds like you have a nice cheap project car to start with. Much better than some people who have started to restore e.g. some 50's exotica with no prior experience and skills.

There's a great site about welding with tutorials etc:

http://www.mig-welding.co.uk

Mickah · 12-02-2009 04:47PM

IK09! Post some pics so we can all see how you're getting on. Need something to wile away the work hours.

IK09 · 24-02-2009 04:33AM

Hey guys

I finally took my finger out and started the project and have hit a different wall each time i thought i was getting somewhere.

But, im not gonna give up and have got (what i would call) a lot of work done and will be posting pics soon.

As it stands i went to a salvage yard and picked up a drivers and rear driver side door, rear bumper, and boot. Ive also fitted them. The entire outer shell of the car has been taken down to bare metal and im in the process of applying filler to the rough areas (theres a lot). Was gonna post pics this weekend but i put my fone through the washing machine, i know, im an idiot.

I plan on starting spraying in about 2 weeks as i can only work on it at weekends cos im in college and the cars at home. If yere eve lookin for a good deal at a salvage yard go to the one on the headford road in galway, absolute bargain. Also im gettin my primer, base coat and lacquer for a steal(400) in AUTOZONE in limerick. ask for dave if your there, hes the most helpful guy in Ireland. Anyway the paint code im gonna use is "TV2" bayside blue if you wanna check it out.

I will be back with pics, on that you have my word.

Hints, Tips and advice greatly appriecated.

IK09

L-M · 24-02-2009 09:32AM

Jaysus your mad lol... But fair play to ya.

The last time I was getting something sprayed I said I'd do it myself -It was a spoiler- sanded it down and all my base coats etc. and everytime I went to paint it the paint reacted. In the end, after failing, I handed it into a bodyshop and the paint reacted for him first time too:rolleyes:...

It's a pain in the arse, but good luck with it.

biko · 24-02-2009 09:50AM

If all else fails buy several spray cans of black paint and keep spraying.

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-143877.html

IK09 · 24-02-2009 05:26PM

hey guys shud have mentioned it last night but im gonna redo the carpet, seats and get a new steering wheel.

Im kinda lookin for a racing wheel and seats but im just gonna get an end of nice carpet from a shop and stencil it from the old one.

If any1 knows any good places to get any of these cheaply that wud be great

And they have to be cheap!!!:)

maidhc · 24-02-2009 05:58PM

IK09 wrote: »

but im just gonna get an end of nice carpet from a shop and stencil it from the old one.

You woudn't chance terracotta tiles instead?

Johnny Utah · 24-02-2009 06:11PM

maidhc wrote: »

You woudn't chance terracotta tiles instead?

LOL

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IK09 wrote: »

hey guys shud have mentioned it last night but im gonna redo the carpet, seats and get a new steering wheel.

Im kinda lookin for a racing wheel and seats but im just gonna get an end of nice carpet from a shop and stencil it from the old one.

If any1 knows any good places to get any of these cheaply that wud be great

And they have to be cheap!!!:)

Dude you should go for a sheepskin rug instead.........

FULL BODY PAINT JOB

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