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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭enfield


    Just back from the fair today. The Royal Irish jacket was for sale there today but I did not have th neck to ask him how much. Lots of death plaques and medals available. I noticed a Percussion Enfield rifle and a few revolvers. I did not ask the price as they did not interest me. The French guy had some beautiful early weapons from the 16th century upwards. All the usual stuff including the items brought back from Beltring. I myself got a ww1 Luftwaffe belt and buckle for 55 spondoolies for the daughter who is into re-enactment. She goes as Helga from allo allo. I had noticed a Kings crown Inniskillings stable belt and buckle and was happy to find it was worth 60 smackers as I have one around here somewheres. Lots of crack and opportunities for making new contacts and having the odd trade with all the regulars. Next fair is in the teachers Club on 6th of September from lunchtime until 3,30pm. Dont forget there will be traders in Militaria at the Salute Show which is on Saturday and Sunday week in Swords. You never know what you might pick up, it might even be cureable...........
    Regards.
    Tom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    I was at this too but thought the prices were too high. The dealers would have sold more items and made more money if they had been less greedy.

    A bunch of people from WAF there too so it was good to put names to faces at the pub upstairs. Overall though the selection was dissappointing and the prices were silly for the most part - to give you an example 2 photo albums at €450 despite the fact that they were mostly pre-war and over 50% of the pictures had been removed. Loose photos and postcards seemed more expensive than last time at Gorey - as far as german medals go the prices seemed about the same though the selection was not great.

    From what I saw and from talking to other people there sales seemed down so hopefully the dealers at salute will have slightly less 'celtic tiger' pricing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭enfield


    Just a final word guys and gals. I am away for the weekend to Salute. Heading out at lunchtime tommorrow (Friday). If you want any particular item photographed just let me know before the morning. Caffreys Army is bringing all his guns. He does not usually bring them all but he is this time. As usual I will be handing them out to the public to 'feel' but not to cock, point, strip or mess with. 'If you can name it you can handle it' is my saying so come prepared with a bit of knowledge. If you cannot name it I will not hand it to you. Kids do amazingly well naming weapons. It took a bit of time before the penny dropped, its part of a play station game!!!They are all de-activated and the only gun he does not have is the Irish Army FN, believe it or not. We will have the SMLE, No4, SLR, M1 carbine, Garand, AK 47, GEW 98, K98, Mosin nagant, Gustav, sten etc. Lots of machine guns, pistols, machine pistols, revolvers, pistols, sub machine guns, heavy machine guns, assault rifles, sniper rifles edged weapons etc. You are welcome to take picture with them and feel free to ask questions. Its all very friendly and you will not find a safer place that a military show. There is no messing tolerated. There will also be some militaria stalls there where you can sell stuff to the traders as well as buy stuff.
    Have a good one.
    Regards.
    Tom.

    Regards.
    Tom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    See you all there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    I'm gonna drop by Saturday morning/afternoon, thats if I can manage to find my way there :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    I'm gonna drop by Saturday morning/afternoon, thats if I can manage to find my way there :p


    Head for the airport. I'm sure it'll be signposted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I'm gonna drop by Saturday morning/afternoon, thats if I can manage to find my way there :p

    If you're heading from the north head off the M1 past Swords and it will be on your left after Airside shopping centre but before the airport roundabout.
    If you're coming from the south head to Swords from the airport roundabout and you'll se it on your right.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Just back from this event. Weather held up ok, lots to see and do for the military buffs. Lots of vechicles to see, weapons to handle and things to buy. Seemed to be a fierce amount of repro items and a load of odds and ends. Lots of medals, badges etc. I picked up a few pieces and had the pleasure of meating Tom, so all in all not a bad day out :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    Just back from this event. Weather held up ok, lots to see and do for the military buffs. Lots of vechicles to see, weapons to handle and things to buy. Seemed to be a fierce amount of repro items and a load of odds and ends. Lots of medals, badges etc. I picked up a few pieces and had the pleasure of meating Tom, so all in all not a bad day out :p
    Hey CB1798,what were the prices of things like there?,considered heading up there tomorrow but decided to head for the Kinsale show tomorrow instead so hopefully that might be worth while,you get those bino's yet


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    arnhem44 wrote: »
    Hey CB1798,what were the prices of things like there?,considered heading up there tomorrow but decided to head for the Kinsale show tomorrow instead so hopefully that might be worth while,you get those bino's yet


    There was two types of sellers there, those selling the scrapings of the barrell, the usual helmets, east German gear, american stuff, ie the really worn out odds and ends, bric a brac etc, and then those who were selling the good stuff and knew how to charge for it too!

    I picked up a 1940 dated p'37 ammo pouch and two cross straps and a 1944 dated p'37 map case. Also a post war German leather map case, two stripper clips of WW2 dated 7.92 spent shells, a handful of 9mm spent cases and an old leather sling for an airsoft Gew 98 project I'm working on.


    I got the bino's alright, I'll have a new thread on them soon, a bit of interesting history behind them, turns out they were named!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    an old leather sling for an airsoft Gew 98 project I'm working on.

    Was looking at the thread in the airsoft forum, looks the business.

    Show is bigger than last year, a lot more stalls, paintball and airsoft.
    I ended up helping out at the Caffreys army display and will be doing it again tomorrow, be sure to drop in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    There was two types of sellers there, those selling the scrapings of the barrell, the usual helmets, east German gear, american stuff, ie the really worn out odds and ends, bric a brac etc, and then those who were selling the good stuff and knew how to charge for it too!

    I picked up a 1940 dated p'37 ammo pouch and two cross straps and a 1944 dated p'37 map case. Also a post war German leather map case, two stripper clips of WW2 dated 7.92 spent shells, a handful of 9mm spent cases and an old leather sling for an airsoft Gew 98 project I'm working on.


    I got the bino's alright, I'll have a new thread on them soon, a bit of interesting history behind them, turns out they were named!
    thats to be expected I guess,still one mans rubbish is another mans treasure as they say,the bino's sound an interesting story,look forward to hearing about it,must have a look at the airsoft thread,kowloon has me curious.You gone across the pond yet??


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    arnhem44 wrote: »
    thats to be expected I guess,still one mans rubbish is another mans treasure as they say,the bino's sound an interesting story,look forward to hearing about it,must have a look at the airsoft thread,kowloon has me curious.You gone across the pond yet??

    Not going until Mid to late September, I'll be back at the holidays and the first thing I'll be bringing back is a shiny Bren :D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    kowloon wrote: »
    Not going until Mid to late September, I'll be back at the holidays and the first thing I'll be bringing back is a shiny Bren :D.
    You might nip up to London and get mine while your at it:D,I added the Mosin on Friday to the collection from Ryton arms,nice friendly people to deal with,thay have a couple of Brens on at the moment,I could of bought one of these at one of the fairs I went to during the summer(two weeks of partial sunshine)I figured it would be more hassle than it would be worth trying to explain to the gaurds how I got it so decided to leave it behind,so whats salute like then handling all those weapons,a child in a sweet shop I bet:phave a good one anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    Got down yesterday at around 11 am to this one,this was held in Charles Fort overlooking the sea and Kinsale town,a cracking setting within the fort.We were met at the gates to be told that the admission fee had been lifted for the show while it was on,plenty of reinactors walking around mingling with the crowd and all the people that were there were more than happy to hand any of there weapons over to the public to handle and inspect:),the show started with the Romans,Normans and Barbarians doing there piece explaining the different weapons and tatics used which was quite interesting and finished it off with a simulated fighting scene,next up were the Napolionic and British battle reinactment which was good and loud with there muskets blasting away,this lasted over twenty minutes and once was finished all the kids in the crowd were invited to join in with the scene,the coast gaurd was present also and done an excellent life saving display,as for stalls there was only around a dozen or so but talking to the guys on them was definately worth while for the advise they offered on various subjects,also there was someone there that had an amazing display of Irish related medals, insignia,badges and paperwork,you name it he had it,I've never seen so many Uprising medals and war of independce medals including minutures in all my life,the cost must of ran into the thousands,leaving the show we were met by a German reinactment group(Kampfgruppe Knittle) who were very friendly,these lads encouraged everyone to have a look and were more than happy to leave people get photos with there bike and weapons,all in all a great way to pass a sunday and will definately be on the calendar next time


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The groups really need to coordinate the events more to avoid clashing; pick one and make it the official national show.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    kowloon wrote: »
    The groups really need to coordinate the events more to avoid clashing; pick one and make it the official national show.
    Maybe not everyone is prepared to travel to Dublin for a show and are quite happy to stick to there local events


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 prodg


    enfield wrote: »
    If there is anyone in Tipp that has an interest in these shows or getting into re-enacting, please PM me. We are always on the lookout for more vehicles to join our convoys as well.
    Regards.
    Tom

    dear enfield i am looking for a 2nd world war uniform either british or us for a classic shoot in the midlands and would be obliged if you could give me information on where i could rent or purchase one. i am not a re-enactor, but found last sundays show in swords very interesting and i helped out on one of the stalls due to my ex military service. thank you


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    arnhem44 wrote: »
    Maybe not everyone is prepared to travel to Dublin for a show and are quite happy to stick to there local events

    I know, but maybe if there was one big event on a weekend with no local events. Irelands War and Peace. You need a big national gathering at least once a year. The Romans at Salute were from Cork, most of the IMVG are from well outside Dublin.
    I wasn't attacking local events but there's something to be said for the larger ones too. It's in everyones interest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    kowloon wrote: »
    I know, but maybe if there was one big event on a weekend with no local events. Irelands War and Peace. You need a big national gathering at least once a year. The Romans at Salute were from Cork, most of the IMVG are from well outside Dublin.
    I wasn't attacking local events but there's something to be said for the larger ones too. It's in everyones interest.

    Local ones need to give way to the larger ones and schedule on a day when there isnt a clash with a national one - that would seem to be the fairest solution.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    I would agree with both of ye on this,I'd be first in line if for a ticket if there was an Irish war and peace show,it should be organised within an national show committee(if there is such) to sort dates out for events,all I'm saying is some people may not be prepared to travel as far as Dublin for a show,for example it would take me four hours to drive there,it only takes me twenty minutes to Kinsale,you must look at the bigger picture,some of these events that are been held around the country are been held at the same time as local events or festivals and may have done so for a long time,these festivals have been held on the same dates for years,you take out a local re-inactment for an annual show and its possible that any re-inactment may become lost to that area,the show I went to Sunday was small and these need crowds to make them worth while to be held there,should a National show work around the local events or the other way around,thats for the people who do the re-inactment to decide


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭enfield


    Sorry for not getting back to you guys since Salute but I have been up to my eyes. Anyway Prod if you pm me I will give you the phone number of a guy who rents uniforms.
    Dont forget there is a fair in the Teachers club tommorrow from Lunchtime.
    More tommorrow.
    regards.
    Tom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭enfield


    Finally got around to a report on Salute. We left Tipp at 11 and RV’d with the convoy on the M9 and headed for the toll plaza with the plan that we might get through for free. I was toying with the idea of letting off the siren as we got near the plaza but I could see yer woman already with her hand out so I stopped and she waved us through. We got to Salute and got a great welcome. First thibng at such shows when you arrive is to set up sleeping accommodation. Our truck took out the bell tent I bought in Beltring and it was comfort all the way, loads of room for two. Beside us was a big Russian truck that I had not seen on the circuit before. I got talking the owner ( ould fella Even older than me if you can envisage such a thing) told me he bought is for £3000 in the UK. It had 6000 on the clock and was 30 odd years old. That’s amazing says I, that’s nothing says he……………take a look in the back. Up the steps I went and into the back. Both sides of the walls were covered in computers and a roller map graph thingy with a needle in it drawing type of thing. He tells me that the military who sold it just plugged out the stuff and closed the doors. Even the seats were still there!!
    http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/clondaleek/?action=view&current=102_0082.jpg

    Anyway.
    The lads then went down to the Coachmans inn for a bite to eat and a few bevies. I socialised with the other clubs and then settled down for the evening. We set up a rain shelter and I had made a metal coal fire ( in work) and set it up. Took out the guitar and a bottle of rum and coke and lit me pipe ( I am an ould fella). Thenwe hear that the barbecue was ready so we went over and had grub and headed back to the campfire which was glowing nicely. I murdered a few songs and as the night went on and our vision became clearer with the alcahol we had visits from other campers from different clubs and they were made as welcome as possible. Songs, thousands of years old were tortured and laid down like fine whines but the greatest of comeraderie and crack was had by all. Things got dim and I woke in a bell tent in the morning. Those feckin Romas how the ‘eck are they so cheerfull of a morning? They look great but eat terrible looking tack. The yanks were up and about getting ready for the battle in the afternoon. The Germans had set up checkpoints and tents and displayed their weapons. There was a stall for airsoft (more on this on boards.ie re; airsoft) Great guys and are reall y heavy into it. They put on a hostage scene in the arena around lunchtime and it was very effective. The free Polish Army were also in attendance and supported the British Army and the Yanks in the afternoon battle. There were lots of stalls selling everything from replica weapons, bayonets, repro badges and uniforms, Army surplus etc. One stall sold chocolate and the usual chip vans. I counted 51 vehicles on the Saturday not including the three tanks, there were more on Sunday. It was like a mini Beltring with the same spirit of safety and ease. Now then this guy approached me and I could swear he was from a new version of hidden camera type of thing tried to take a rise out of me, trying to incite me to say something bad about the British while all the time holding his mobile phone in front of me. I told him I do not like to be recorded and he fecked off. He did the same to lots of people there so don’t be surprised if he is on telly making fools out of the unwary. I gave him a monosyllabic conversation which did not please him. He was pointed out to security and was watched the whole time he was there. Either a nutter or a set up guy for a new naked camera thingy.
    Evening came and the sellers settled down their stalls and we headed for a few pints. I came back and set up the fire and settled down for a quiet night. Alcaholic beverages were running a bit low so we got ready for an early night. On me last swig one of the Yanks came down and asked if we would like to join them for a session. Not at all says I take the guitar and enjoy yourself. Away he headed with the guitar under his oxter. Will we or wont we……well we did, we headed for the yanks camp and they were sitting with the romans!!!!! Splitters!!! Now the Roman wimmen had their hair done up gorgeous and were very sittable besidable so we did and the best music session Iever had occurred that night with a heap of yanks at their fire (we went back and got ours and brought it down to them,) fantastic. The next morning the Romans
    were bright eyed and bushy tailed and ready for battle.So were the Yanks British, Polish and Germans and it was all played out in the arena. Afterwards we went to the carpark where the tanks were doing their thing. Two of them had big guns and looked great but there was one, a T90, driven by a Czech Army Tank driver
    showed how a tank could be driven. He slammed on the breaks and the two guys in the back almost fell out. A tank wheelie if you like. We wrapped up and headed home at 5pm and we all lived happily ever after.
    I got to meet croppy boy, a nice guy.
    I took this picture for rashers of those rebellious Romans, enjoy!!
    http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/clondaleek/?action=view&current=102_0096.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭enfield




  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    enfield wrote: »
    I took this picture for rashers of those rebellious Romans, enjoy!!

    A Roman with a Gustav.... a sight I'd never have dreamed of!

    Thanks for taking that photo.

    I love your report, thanks. I was 'there' as I read it.

    I see too that you and me are a couple of the erm.... senior citizens on boards.;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    enfield wrote: »
    More pics;
    If you can name it you can handle it......

    In that case I could have handled nearly all of them.
    And especially my beloved No4 rifle. I have to get one before I quit this vale of tears.

    Thanks for the photos.

    Oh and the bicycles? I knew a man who served on the bikes. Gawd does that make me old? :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    enfield wrote: »
    Watch out for a forum member, well his trousers anyway.

    Was I talking to you? I met a couple of forum members but I confuse the boards names and real names.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭enfield


    Rashers you would have died of nostalgia and you could have handled all of the guns there. Kowloon, Prodg and myself would have looked after ya.
    Remember the fair today in the teachers club. Not a lot of tables and is run by the medal club. I think its is still 2 euro to get in instead of the five charged by the IMCC.
    Enjoy.
    Regards.
    Tom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭enfield


    I was not at the fair today. If any of the menbers here attended have you anything to report?
    Regards.
    Tom.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Was at the vintage rifle shoot today, a few boards members there and a row of Enfields. Good fun was had by all :).
    I shoot like a drunken monkey!


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