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How was Enterprise in the end?

  • 22-07-2008 3:15pm
    #1
    Saruman
    Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭


    As someone who watched every episode of every series a few times over, i was eager to watch Enterprise.

    It was mediocre though, ok but i was not impressed. Anyway somewhere along the way i stopped watching it so i have no idea how it ended. I think the last one i saw, Archer was brought back in time or maybe it was the future... can not remember but he was looking at a destroyed city. It was where enterprise went looking for the Xindi homeworld so i think it was the las ep in season 3.

    So did it get any better in season 4?


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  • #2
    Johnny Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,982 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    It did, it had a few flashes of almost-pretty-goodness but still was no great shakes.
    They got a new "show runner" in called Manny Coto. He tried his best to rescue the show but unfortunately in trying to appeal to the pre-existing Trek fans who were fed up with the shows many inconsistencies (ie Vulcans being devious liars etc) he ended up slipping too far into continuity porn.
    A couple of OK-ish eps with Brent Spiner as an ancestor of Data's dad who was responsible for producing the KHAAAAAAAAN-style genetically engineered supermen. These were the best Enterprise eps IMHO.
    Then they had some eps which tried to explain why TOS era Klingons did not have brow-ridges. Honestly you couldn't make this **** up. Very much as step too far.
    Then a mirror image universe ep featuring a TOS era Constellation class ship - only OK IMHO.
    The Finale was unbelieveably bad, managing to disrespect anyone who had actually stuck with Enterprise that far AND fans of TNG at the same time.


  • #3
    nyarlothothep
    Registered Users Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    yeah the final episode was lame, however I think overall Enterprise had far more engaging story hooks than the heinous travesty abomination imo of Voyager which was just so evil and bad and defiled everything that was sacred about Star Trek. Enterprise had a couple of pitfalls 1. Cheesy title and end credits music 2. Scott Bakula--I couldn't take him seriously because he's the Quantum Leap guy, I was always half expecting Al to turn up saying zigi predicts """""

    And why did they wear boiler suits when they're commandeering the most prestigious ship in starfleet, representing the human race in the galaxy. Its taking things way too far with the back to basics idea.

    That said I found a lot of the episodes to be engrossing and it had a lot of unrealized potential. The characters were ok too. T'pol was the best.


  • #4
    User45701
    Registered Users Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    Ill agree the last episode was terrible but enterprise was ok/decent i mean season 3 had some great eps so did season 4, even season 1 & 2 had good episodes or it would not have got that far

    im particuarly fond of 2 episodes, both early episodes (i think season 1 episode 3) where they fight a unknown ship i suspect could have been breen, i also like the episode after the romulan minefield in season 2 (the space station that is amazingly advanced.) Sees like the last rememant of a species that was assimlated by the borg (only rech we have ever seen simmilar to borg regeration)


  • #5
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    nyarlothothep wrote: »
    2. Scott Bakula--I couldn't take him seriously because he's the Quantum Leap guy, I was always half expecting Al to turn up saying zigi predicts """""

    He did actually show up in one episode believe it or not...very hard to take seriously seeing the two of them together on screen


  • #6
    nyarlothothep
    Registered Users Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Riskymove wrote: »
    He did actually show up in one episode believe it or not...very hard to take seriously seeing the two of them together on screen

    haha brilliant, I saw the trailer there, he appears in Detained. Its such a cheesy premise that you wouldn't expect it but all the same...

    Just as an aside, is there some theory in a tv program, I can't remember the name, but basically fraiser, star trek, the x files, friends and some other popular tv shows are basically in the imagination of an autistic boy?


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  • #7
    User45701
    Registered Users Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    really?

    i remember a long time ago about 12+ years or so or longer did anyone ever come accross that conspiracy website where star trek, star wars and any show based in the future - "they where all real" and someone from the future traveled back in time, to our time to make TV shows about the future to make money so it could sit in a bank for a few hundred years (think futurama) one of the best sites ive come accross and very well done as well


  • #8
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Honestly I thought Enterprise was fantastic, much better than voyager but still not anywhere near DS9, TNG or even the TOS.

    It's very much how i think if Stargate turned into a Space show would turn out.

    These people are governed by their emotions and not the prime directive and so i think its a lot more real, I mean voyages was so unrealistic it wasn't funny.


  • #9
    Anti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    I thought Enterprise was probably the worst sci-fi show ever produced.


  • #10
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    nyarlothothep wrote: »
    Just as an aside, is there some theory in a tv program, I can't remember the name, but basically fraiser, star trek, the x files, friends and some other popular tv shows are basically in the imagination of an autistic boy?

    St.Elsewhere

    What a weird ending


  • #11
    Johnny Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,982 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    Anti wrote: »
    I thought Enterprise was probably the worst sci-fi show ever produced.

    Certainly the worst Star Trek show ever produced.
    There's been lots of much worse SF shows IMHO - e.g. Andromeda.

    This list will help refresh your memory (shudders).....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_television_programs


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  • #12
    G-Money
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,200 ✭✭✭G-Money


    At the risk of getting flamed, I quite liked Enterprise. I thought Season 3 was very strong and I liked how the Xindi arc pretty much ran through every single episode.

    I agree with previous posters that the last episode was awful.


  • #13
    noodler
    Registered Users Posts: 26,141 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I LOVED season 3. I thought the desperation theme was well done throughout, I know its a cliche but I liked how Archer et co were forced to do various things you just wouldn't expect them to do in the earlier seasons (abandon a ship years from home or kill 3 xindi who were merely at a listening outpost).

    One thing I have always wate dto discuss tho, why at the end of The Storm Front Episodes (once the TCW crap was sorted) was there like 50 ships (Earth AND Vulcan obviously) waiting for her.....yet when the Xindi advanced on Earth there was nothing (not even the Intrepid or that other one) around.

    Bad writing I guess. But I loved Season 3. Not really the type to care about canon.


  • #14
    Bajingo
    Registered Users Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Bajingo


    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Honestly I thought Enterprise was fantastic, much better than voyager but still not anywhere near DS9, TNG or even the TOS.

    It's very much how i think if Stargate turned into a Space show would turn out.

    These people are governed by their emotions and not the prime directive and so i think its a lot more real, I mean voyages was so unrealistic it wasn't funny.


    But stargate is turning into a space show so basically stargate universe is just going to be star trek enterprise!

    Anyway yeah I lost track of the series I tried to get back into it I got lost when they reached the point where they were sent back to world war 2 I hated those episodes...anyway still dont know what happened.


  • #15
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Bajingo wrote: »
    But stargate is turning into a space show so basically stargate universe is just going to be star trek enterprise!

    Anyway yeah I lost track of the series I tried to get back into it I got lost when they reached the point where they were sent back to world war 2 I hated those episodes...anyway still dont know what happened.

    I think voyager = SGU

    I liked it... go buy the boxset :D


  • #16
    jhegarty
    Registered Users Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    I do feel the last episode was punishment for canceling the show...

    they needed far more space nazis and time traveling nazis


  • #17
    azezil
    Registered Users Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Some of the episodes really made me cringe, time traveling nazi's for example. But over all I enjoyed it, I thought seasons 3 and 4 were very good! Hated the final episode ¬_¬


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