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gosplan · 24-02-2008 11:04PM

Being that pissed off with throwing away 2 points is an example

OPENROAD · 24-02-2008 11:06PM

DSB wrote: »

He has a point. Captains should be leading by example.

After one incident, he doesn't have a point imo.

AnCapaillMor · 24-02-2008 11:09PM

Whatever about Us, its a crying shame he'll miss Euro2008, he was fantastic for croatia in the qualifiers.

Stripped of captaincy i hope not, from what i've heard he's the best captain we've had since adams.

OPENROAD · 24-02-2008 11:58PM

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Galvasean · 24-02-2008 11:59PM

I wonder, with our lack of options up front at the moment, will Barazite have a chance at breaking into the first team?

PHB · 25-02-2008 12:15AM

I was personally wondering whether Vela can be recalled.

Nunu · 25-02-2008 12:52AM

Gallas is right at the top of the tree when it comes to centre-halfs but I've always questioned Gallas being a captain. Definitely not the kind of guy I would look up to as my captain. He seems to be a self centered, selfish player.

Remember when he threatened to score own goals for Chelsea if they wouldn't let him leave

..I mean come on that's a seriously flawed character right there....What happened against Birmingham reinforced my stance on him.

Qs · 25-02-2008 09:36AM

Gallas captaincy is a major factor in our being top of the league right now. I think he was more upset about the Eduardo injury and the sense that he and the rest of the team had let him down. I'm sure alot of it was just a release of anger, sadness, dispair and worry that he'd bottled up for the 90 minutes previous. I can completely understand why he was so upset I felt pretty much the exact same way myself, and for it all to come from a terrible call by the referee just made it all the harder to swallow.

I really, really hope sometime next year Eduardo will run out before the crowd in the Emirates again and recieves a standing ovation because he's been great for us this season and a huge part of Adebayors success as well as being a consumate professional who plays the game the way its meant to be played.

gosplan · 25-02-2008 09:51AM

Nunu wrote: »

Remember when he threatened to score own goals for Chelsea if they wouldn't let him leave

I remember when Chelsea said something to this effect but it was strongly denied and not really mentioned again.

Gallas has attitude. A lot of the reason that I like him so much is that most players with attitude and personality these days come across as self-obsessed arrogant pricks.

Maybe it's just that I like the guy (and always have, even when he was playing for Chelsea) but he seems to be all about football to me.

He wasn't pissed off the other day because Willliam Gallas dropped two points.

Noelie · 25-02-2008 10:21AM

Gallas was right to be so mad IMO, he had just watched one of his team mates make a schoolboy error to cost us 2 points against a 10 man relegation threatened team. All clichy had to do was wallop the ball up field and the ref would more than likely have blown for full time. If United win the league by a point or two this will be the game that lost it for arsenal.

Although he was a bit childish to sit on the pitch at the end, only getting up when wenger came over, it was a bit like his dad coming over to bring the sulking child home.

Qs · 25-02-2008 10:27AM

Noelie wrote: »

If United win the league by a point or two this will be the game that lost it for arsenal.

Not the points dropped to Brum at home then, or the draw with Newcastle, or the loss to Boro?

Clichy made a mistake but he won the ball back fair and square, he made up for his mistake, its not his fault the ref didn't do his job properly.

Unearthly · 25-02-2008 10:29AM

It was a terrible way for a captain to react, no excuses really. A captain shouldn't just exert his leadership when things are going well, it's also when the going gets tough. Gallas didn't do that. He didn't tell Clichy that it was ok, he didn't stay at the edge of the box to try and get to a rebound from a peno, he didn't rally his team at the end.

Qs · 25-02-2008 10:37AM

Rally his team at the end, for what, to take a good tip off? He's only human and he was upset. Gallas isn't a player I absolutely love or anything, he would me up with all his moaning to the press last season and his peformances against united and the spuds were nothing more than pathetic but on Saturday I could completely understand how he felt.

Unearthly · 25-02-2008 10:41AM

Qs wrote: »

Rally his team at the end, for what, to take a good tip off? He's only human and he was upset. Gallas isn't a player I absolutely love or anything, he would me up with all his moaning to the press last season and his peformances against united and the spuds were nothing more than pathetic but on Saturday I could completely understand how he felt.

Well first of all you don't sit on the pitch sulking, it shows weakness, probably gave Man Utd a huge boost. You are a fan, you are entitled to spaz out over that, but you are not supposed to be leading people by example, Gallas is

Mr Alan · 25-02-2008 10:46AM

Gallas sulked like a child. He is not showing his team great leadership or being an example to the young players in the team (of which there is quite a few!), he was showing them that when the going gets tough, storm off crying and sulking. Bad example and bad captaincy imo.

Ferguson would have loved seeing it, and probably showed it to the manc players using it as an example of why Utd are stronger mentally than Arsenal.

Bad mistake from Gallas

gandalf · 25-02-2008 11:33AM

TBH I understand why Gallas reacted like he did. The game was extraordinary for a number of reasons. The horrific injury to Eduardo (which tbh looked and could be career ending and that would have played on all their minds), the stonewall penalty that should have been given when Ade was nearly raped in the Birmingham box. The non penalty for Birmingham that came from a basic lack of concentration error from Clichy.

The main thing is this season he has been brilliant for us and I have talked to Chelsea fans who are bemoaning selling him to us.

Qs · 25-02-2008 12:10PM

Unearthly wrote: »

Well first of all you don't sit on the pitch sulking, it shows weakness, probably gave Man Utd a huge boost. You are a fan, you are entitled to spaz out over that, but you are not supposed to be leading people by example, Gallas is

No you're supposed to pull through for 90 minutes and he did, after that he fell apart. He's a 30 year old man, only a couple of years older than myself and he kept it together for alot longer than I would've. He's not a rock. As a fan I was distrought for a player i watch from the stands, this was a friend of Gallas. A friend whos career could be over, a friend who suffered probably the worst injury in living memory in English football. After Bussts injury Peter Schmeichel had to recieve councelling and you think Gallas is wrong to break down after this match.

Footballers are just people, they suffer from emotions as much as anyone else. This is real life, not the movies. Theres only so much people can take.

Pepe LeFrits · 25-02-2008 06:15PM

Personally, I couldn't give a rats arse about Gallas' reaction. It is such a total non-issue given what happened in that match and I think it is telling that it is mostly opposition fans who are so concerned with it.

What matters is the reaction against Villa next weekend. It is absolutely vital that the boys bounce back immediately. Provided we don't lose another half dozen players to injury I think they'll show the right stuff and get a result.

eZe^ · 25-02-2008 11:00PM

Say Vela against Athletico De Madrid over the weekend, fantastic talent, should definitely be one to watch out for in the future.

Qs · 26-02-2008 12:04PM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Personally, I couldn't give a rats arse about Gallas' reaction. It is such a total non-issue given what happened in that match and I think it is telling that it is mostly opposition fans who are so concerned with it.

What matters is the reaction against Villa next weekend. It is absolutely vital that the boys bounce back immediately. Provided we don't lose another half dozen players to injury I think they'll show the right stuff and get a result.

We'll have to be very careful on set pieces against Villa. we're weak on them and they're very, very strong. if Theos in the team would should do our best to counter them from corners though, catch them with Laursen out of position. Walcott could destroy Bouma 1 vs 1.

beer enigma · 26-02-2008 01:21PM

What's the likelihood of Wenger bringing in a fresh Striker now Eduardo is crocked - even if he is back by December, leaves us short up front with RvP picking up injuries ?

Vokes · 26-02-2008 01:29PM

He could bring Vela back in the summer (assuming no issues with work permit or if he gains Spanish nationality), mebbe?

Qs · 26-02-2008 03:31PM

SofaKing wrote: »

He could bring Vela back in the summer (assuming no issues with work permit or if he gains Spanish nationality), mebbe?

He's already said he'd be bringing Vela back anyway. I think he'll play more on the wing though, its where he's playing for Ossasauna.

gosplan · 26-02-2008 03:55PM

how good is Vela?

Qs · 26-02-2008 04:17PM

gosplan wrote: »

how good is Vela?

He doing quite well in Spain but he's far from the finished article. He's ahead of Walcott in terms of progress I reckon but he's nowhere near the finished article. Maybe a similar level to Babel or Nani, maybe. Not too sure yet.

Galvasean · 26-02-2008 04:18PM

gosplan wrote: »

how good is Vela?

Hopefully as good as he becomes in Football Manager..

Pepe LeFrits · 27-02-2008 07:23PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vffmJEaUEw

First I've seen of Pedro, our new Brazillian left winger/back at Salamanca.

gosplan · 28-02-2008 10:43AM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vffmJEaUEw

First I've seen of Pedro, our new Brazillian left winger/back at Salamanca.

He looks like one of those Brazillian full-backs who basically wants to be a winger.

Seems good though. Big guy, massive stride, good touch.

I'd be far more excited if Clichy wasn't so damn brilliant.

~Rebel~ · 28-02-2008 11:04AM

Just watched that youtube clip, he plays just like Perea at Atletico Madrid plays when at full back in Pro Evo 08. Big guy with a bit of pace who just charges down the wing with players almost bouncing off him! Will have a very very tough time getting any bit of game time ahead of Clichy though.

L'prof · 28-02-2008 12:41PM

gosplan wrote: »

I'd be far more excited if Clichy wasn't so damn brilliant.

Maybe he intends playing him as a winger!

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