Arsenal Transfer Rumours And General Chat

Galvasean · 17-01-2008 01:16AM

OPENROAD wrote: »

Anyone watching Arsenal TV, official launch was tonight. Sky Ch 423.

Is that on Corus at all? I hear the subscription is €13 a year.

OPENROAD · 17-01-2008 01:31AM

Galvasean wrote: »

Is that on Corus at all? I hear the subscription is €13 a year.

Don't think so,possibly only with sky at the moment,comes free if you have Setanta.

Some good stuff on it although lots of repeats but that is to be expected I suppose.

Evil_Clown · 17-01-2008 09:45AM

If like me Dennis Bergkamp was your favourite Arsenal player

here is a nice article by a fellow fan
http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=503570

Evil_Clown · 17-01-2008 12:09PM

It's official Diarra has left Arsenal FC for Pompey
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/7193782.stm

A pity really cos he good have been a very good player for us however his impatience and narrow mindedness has got the better of him, Arsenal looked to have made a decent profit from him however so that at least is good.

Lets hope Flamini signs that new contract as that is now more important than ever, losing Diarra and Gilberto's erratic form mean the last thing we need is to loose the Flamster

yahoo_moe · 17-01-2008 02:22PM

Evil_Clown wrote: »

his impatience and narrow mindedness has got the better of him

Hang on, I wanted Diarra to stay (cos I think he's class and Flamini's not going to stay fit/in this form forever) but that's completely unfair - he came to Arsenal to escape an identical situation at Chelsea and has found himself unexpectedly frozen out. He's playing for France but not at club level.

Even though I'd be surprised if he was guaranteed first team football by Wenger (as Diarra briefly claimed), the fact that Gilberto was not made captain suggested that there was a good opening for him. With a full pre-season at Arsenal, he might have got the nod while Gilberto was at the Copa America (he probably would have been ahead of Flamini in that race).

So even though I like him a lot as a player and wanted him to stay, I can see why he'd be getting itchy feet when this is the exact situation he came to Arsenal to avoid

Bounty Hunter · 17-01-2008 04:10PM

RVP out for a couple of weeks with a thigh injury

Pepe LeFrits · 17-01-2008 04:54PM

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

RVP out for a couple of weeks with a thigh injury

Diarra is a fool - and that isn't being unfair. He's 22 years old, has done shag all in his career and has already left two 'big four' clubs because he wasn't prepared to work hard to get in the first team. Gilberto is clearly off in the summer and Flamini is stalling over signing a new contract - but the guy is putting the possibility of playing for France in Euro 2008 over the rest of his career.

It would be lovely if he were to lose his place in the French team to Flamini and Sagna at Euro 2008.

gosplan · 17-01-2008 04:57PM

yahoo_moe wrote: »

Hang on, I wanted Diarra to stay (cos I think he's class and Flamini's not going to stay fit/in this form forever) but that's completely unfair - he came to Arsenal to escape an identical situation at Chelsea and has found himself unexpectedly frozen out. He's playing for France but not at club level.

Even though I'd be surprised if he was guaranteed first team football by Wenger (as Diarra briefly claimed), the fact that Gilberto was not made captain suggested that there was a good opening for him. With a full pre-season at Arsenal, he might have got the nod while Gilberto was at the Copa America (he probably would have been ahead of Flamini in that race).

So even though I like him a lot as a player and wanted him to stay, I can see why he'd be getting itchy feet when this is the exact situation he came to Arsenal to avoid

The narrow mindedness commment is a bit unfair as he probably just wants to play football but impatience:

"The people at Portsmouth know I will not spend my life at this club...If I shine, if a really big club wants me, I know already that everything will go well."

So he wants to go to a really big club but won't stay at any of them unless he's be guaranteed first team football.

Over the years I can think that only Keane, Viera and Essien getting that guarantee in his position. Either he works his way up in a big club or he stays where he is.

herbieflowers · 17-01-2008 04:59PM

wait a a sec, was he just signed from Chelski in the summer?!

Pepe LeFrits · 17-01-2008 05:03PM

herbieflowers wrote: »

wait a a sec, was he just signed from Chelski in the summer?!

Yep, he was at the club for approximately four and a half months.

yahoo_moe · 17-01-2008 05:09PM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Diarra is a fool - and that isn't being unfair. He's 22 years old, has done shag all in his career ... his place in the French team

Yes it's extremely impatient but I think this weird combination is the main problem here - clubwise, he's done "shag all" but he wants to keep his place in a team with a serious chance of international silverware.

Just so we're clear, I don't think he's right to leave and I'd rather he stayed (and I argued this back on page 103 of this thread) because he'd certainly have been given chances - chances that he's well capable of taking - at Arsenal in future but he's been unlucky in that this isn't the situation he signed up for (in his head anyway) when he came in the summer... who knows, if it wasn't a season leading into an international tournament, he might have stayed?

Galvasean · 17-01-2008 05:15PM

Glad Diarra is gone. Nothing but trouble. Left Chelski to join Arsenal hoping for an easy ride. Didn't do his homework. The plan backfired when he realised "Holy crap, Arsenal's squad is a s good as Chelsea's!" Apparently Newcastle turned down the opportunity to sign him because he wanted £90,000 a week. Says it all really (if its true).

On a related note there are a lot of ex-guners playing in the Premiership now, enough to make a formidable team.

Goalkeepers
Richard wright (West Ham)

Defenders
Ashley Cole (Chelsea)
Sol Campbell (Portsmouth)
Lauren (Portsmouth)
Matthew Upson (west Ham)

Midfielders
Sebastian Larsson (Birmingham)
Fabrice Muamba (Birmingham)
David Bentley (Blackburn)
Steve Sidwell (Chelsea)
Jermainne Pennant (Liverpool)
Lassana Diarra (Portsmouth)
Jamie O' Hara (Tottenham)
Freddie Ljungberg (West Ham)

Forwards
Nicolas Anelka (Chelsea)
Jeremie Aliadiere (Middlesboro)
Nwanku Kanu (Portsmouth)
Andrew Cole (Sunderland)
Anthony Stokes (Sunderland)
Luis Boa Morte (West Ham)

Thats quite a few. Anyone I missed?

Raskolnikov · 17-01-2008 05:21PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Henrik Larsson (Birmingham)

Surely you mean Sebastian

Ditching Diarra was a great idea. He's only put pen to ink, but yet he's already come out with these comments . . .

"The people at Portsmouth know I will not spend my life at this club.
If I shine, if a really big club wants me, I know already that everything will go well."

If you ask me, that's another fantastic bit of business that Wenger has done.

leninbenjamin · 17-01-2008 05:25PM

yeesh... my opinion of Diarra has really fallen of late, but now it's just vanished. he wont last long at the premiership level if he has a head that big on him. he'll wind up at a small to medium French club eventually where his place will be guaranteed and he'll never do anything of note. who's Wenger got lined up to replace him though? he'll have to get someone else in by the summer.

Raskolnikov · 17-01-2008 05:26PM

Moritz Volz
James Harper

ErinGoBrath · 17-01-2008 05:49PM

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Surely you mean Sebastian
"The people at Portsmouth know I will not spend my life at this club.
If I shine, if a really big club wants me, I know already that everything will go well."

What a spazmo.

Times Online couldn't have put it any better:
"Is he the first person to use his opening press conference to put in a transfer request?"

Pepe LeFrits · 17-01-2008 06:01PM

ErinGoBrath wrote: »

Times Online couldn't have put it any better:
"Is he the first person to use his opening press conference to put in a transfer request?"

Love it.

Pepe LeFrits · 17-01-2008 06:25PM

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=486499&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Exclusive:+Barazite+reflects+on+injury+agony

Nice article/interview on Barazite. I've high hopes for him making it into the first team.

Mossy Monk · 17-01-2008 06:32PM

Good riddance. Arsenal do not need people like him in the ranks.

herbieflowers · 17-01-2008 08:22PM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Yep, he was at the club for approximately four and a half months.

what a twat to be fair!

OPENROAD · 17-01-2008 08:27PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Glad Diarra is gone. Nothing but trouble. Left Chelski to join Arsenal hoping for an easy ride. Didn't do his homework. The plan backfired when he realised "Holy crap, Arsenal's squad is a s good as Chelsea's!" Apparently Newcastle turned down the opportunity to sign him because he wanted £90,000 a week. Says it all really (if its true).

On a related note there are a lot of ex-guners playing in the Premiership now, enough to make a formidable team.

Goalkeepers
Richard wright (West Ham)

Defenders
Ashley Cole (Chelsea)
Sol Campbell (Portsmouth)
Lauren (Portsmouth)
Matthew Upson (west Ham)

Midfielders
Henrik Larsson (Birmingham)
Fabrice Muamba (Birmingham)
David Bentley (Blackburn)
Steve Sidwell (Chelsea)
Jermainne Pennant (Liverpool)
Lassana Diarra (Portsmouth)
Jamie O' Hara (Tottenham)
Freddie Ljungberg (West Ham)

Forwards
Nicolas Anelka (Chelsea)
Jeremie Aliadiere (Middlesboro)
Nwanku Kanu (Portsmouth)
Andrew Cole (Sunderland)
Anthony Stokes (Sunderland)
Luis Boa Morte (West Ham)

Thats quite a few. Anyone I missed?

From a playing point of view only Bentley and Anelka I would miss.

Fratton Fred · 17-01-2008 09:26PM

Ignoring all his personality faults for the moment, is he any bloody good?

Royale with Cheese · 17-01-2008 09:52PM

Don't think Arsenal fans would be able to tell you. He didn't play all that often (in case he hadn't made that clear already. From what I saw of him I thought he was ok.

OPENROAD · 17-01-2008 10:11PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Don't think Arsenal fans would be able to tell you. He didn't play all that often (in case he hadn't made that clear already. From what I saw of him I thought he was ok.

He did look quite good to be fair, that said does appear to have a big attitude problem.

cson · 18-01-2008 12:14AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Ignoring all his personality faults for the moment, is he any bloody good?

I thought he was good. Very small in stature but he's a dogged type of player. You know the ones. He's getting his game for France so he can't be all that bad.

Never one to rush into anything but AW would definitely want to spend a long night considering a decent CB to purchase. We look a bit shaky to say the least without Kolo. I would say we'll be ok the weekend that its only Fulham but then I remembered when we went to Craven Cottage last year... :eek:

leninbenjamin · 18-01-2008 01:11AM

cson wrote: »

Never one to rush into anything but AW would definitely want to spend a long night considering a decent CB to purchase. We look a bit shaky to say the least without Kolo. I would say we'll be ok the weekend that its only Fulham but then I remembered when we went to Craven Cottage last year... :eek:

that got me sort of thinkin', has AW ever made a short term buy like you suggested before? i can't think of one myself. sometimes i wonder if it's his apparent unwillingness to do so that's his main failing as a manager?

PHB · 18-01-2008 01:15AM

The problem for Arsenal is a short term buy can't possibly work. The defender has to be able to come in and play incredibly good passing football pretty much from the moment they step on the pitch. People don't notice it, but Arsenals attack is so good because of how their defenders play. You need players like Toure or Gallas. The only central defender in England who could instantly slot into the Arsenal side without at least a month of technical work is Ferdinand.

cson · 18-01-2008 01:32AM

Right so, better get on the blower to AW and tell him to sign Rio (or Anton, hmmm which one did PHB mean...;)) to solve that problem

Seriously though, good point PHB but the fact is that we kinda need someone. Its an impossible situation though, you need someone with experience and thats of a fairly decent level but you're gonna have to bench them when Toure comes back. Tricky.

Evil_Clown · 18-01-2008 09:29AM

yahoo_moe wrote: »

Hang on, I wanted Diarra to stay (cos I think he's class and Flamini's not going to stay fit/in this form forever) but that's completely unfair

I really don't think it's that unfair, he though he could walk into the arsenal team
and then suddenly realised he couldn't
His 1 track mind told him to leave Chelsea and join Arsenal because I suspect he thought it would be 'easier' to get football
IMO he thinks I deserve to be in the team cos I made the French team and if not i'm off, this has happened twice now so thats evidence enough for me to make these comments

L'prof · 18-01-2008 09:37AM

herbieflowers wrote: »

wait a a sec, was he just signed from Chelski in the summer?!

Yes, I think we made about £3m on him too

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