Arsenal Transfer Rumours And General Chat

Evil_Clown · 17-12-2007 12:58PM

great win yesterday
Gallas just had to be the winning goal scorer

Looks like Ca$hley is in trouble for this shortly after the final whistle
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?in_article_id=80092&in_page_id=43&ito=newsnow

Is anyone else glad eboue is injured, he just frustrates me so much sometimes

gosplan · 17-12-2007 01:00PM

y'know, he's been frustrating me too

..and then he charges in and puts Terry out.

I'm beginning to come around.

Im_No_Superman · 17-12-2007 01:43PM

Not a very patient player is he.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_2979809,00.html
I presume he wasnt expecting Flamini to be playing so well this season.

PHB · 17-12-2007 01:55PM

In all fairness, he did leave Chelsea for first team football.

yahoo_moe · 17-12-2007 02:00PM

just saw this quote from clichy (about cashley) in one of the articles above:

If they decide to boo him, I would understand that. I hope he will handle it because he's a good guy but I just want the fans to help the team to get the three points

great stuff

as for diarra, i'd be very disappointed if he leaves. i was seriously confused when wenger signed him but i think he's shown a real touch of class mixed with the ability to get stuck in. in fairness, i guess it doesn't help his patience that he had the exact same experience just before we signed him...

Im_No_Superman · 17-12-2007 02:01PM

PHB wrote: »

In all fairness, he did leave Chelsea for first team football.

Yeah, I wonder was Wenger's original plan to play Diarra and Fabregas as his main central pair but as Flamini is playing so well and forming quite a good understaing with Fabregas he couldnt drop him.

Evil_Clown · 17-12-2007 02:08PM

Im_No_Superman wrote: »

Yeah, I wonder was Wenger's original plan to play Diarra and Fabregas as his main central pair but as Flamini is playing so well and forming quite a good understaing with Fabregas he couldnt drop him.

This could very well be true, but Flamini deserves his place at the moment so Diarra will have to wait.
With this talk of Gilberto leaving for Juve aswell it could be a problem, can afford to lose one but not both in January

I wouldn't like to see Diarra leave but if he does it will be for a nice profit
A tenner of which can be used for Jussi

yahoo_moe · 17-12-2007 02:14PM

but flamini was ready to go to birmingham and wenger talked him into staying...

i'd be very surprised if he overextended himself with promises to people, wouldn't have struck me as being his style at all.

kinda emphasises that gilberto was never really in wenger's head as a first XI man for this season... mad

Galvasean · 17-12-2007 04:40PM

I wouldn't miss Gilberto and Diarra leaving in January. I think we would have adequate cover if we signed in some young central midfielder. Having Fabregas, Flamini and Diaby + 1 other is enough

cson · 17-12-2007 04:42PM

Evil_Clown wrote: »

A tenner of which can be used for Jussi

No way.

Artur Boruc ftw.

Almunia's done good but it was a bit unnreving to see him flapping at one of Shevchenkos shots in that match. Reminded me of vintage Almunia. :eek:

MBC · 17-12-2007 04:42PM

Galvasean wrote: »

I wouldn't miss Gilberto and Diarra leaving in January. I think we would have adequate cover if we signed in some young central midfielder. Having Fabregas, Flamini and Diaby + 1 other is enough

Denilson as well.........i think he class.......reminds me of cesc when he plays.

OPENROAD · 17-12-2007 06:35PM

Galvasean wrote: »

I wouldn't miss Gilberto and Diarra leaving in January. I think we would have adequate cover if we signed in some young central midfielder. Having Fabregas, Flamini and Diaby + 1 other is enough

Diarra has looked quite good so far, I hope we hang onto him, why sell Diarra only to sign another midfielder,Wenger won't sign a midfielder in January. The only area I can see him strengthening is CB and a goalkeeper if Mad Jens leaves.

AnCapaillMor · 17-12-2007 07:11PM

Feel sorry for poor old Diarra and Diaby, flamini playing out of his skin was the last thing they expected. Would'nt really blame diarra.

gosplan · 17-12-2007 08:23PM

I think the main thing for Diarra is Flamini.

Wenger could keep Flamini because Gilberto was ageing and a place would be coming up for grabs.

With Flamini on the verge of a five year deal at the age of 23, it must be obvious to Diarra that, barring injury, he'll neven make the first team.

We can't get rid of Diarra and Gilberto without replacing them. Then we're stuck for defensive midfielders if Flamini gets injured.

yahoo_moe · 18-12-2007 02:17PM

Central midfield is about partnerships - out of Denilson, Fabregas, Flamini, Diarra, Gilberto, Diaby (though he's not played there yet), you have to look at how many balanced partnerships we have.

Look at the partnerships yourselves but I think we absolutely need Diarra. Personally I'd like to hang onto Gilberto till summer but I'd rather keep Diarra for current and future reasons if it came to a straight choice.

Denilson can get stuck in but he's cover for Cesc as far as I'm concerned. Diaby is a good worker too but I consider him cover for Hleb/Rosicky primarily - again he doesn't do the job Gilberto/Flamini do. For me, Diarra is the one who best fits into that mould but he's got far better passing than either of them to go with his tenacity.

A 5-year deal for Flamini doesn't exclude injuries/loss of form and if Diarra goes, I wouldn't fancy Cesc + anyone else as much as I would Cesc + Diarra.

PHB · 18-12-2007 02:26PM

Whats in that for Diarra though?

Im_No_Superman · 18-12-2007 02:36PM

Yeah Id say Diarra is loving this alright, at Chelsea he is waitng for Makalae to retire and Essien to lose form or get injured so he moves to Arsenal looking for first team football and now he is waitnig for Gilberto to move on and Flamini to lose form or get injured before he can get a game!

Galvasean · 18-12-2007 05:12PM

I have no sympathy for Diarra. If he taught he was coming to Arsenal for easy first team football he was sorely mistaken.
Will he play tonight against B'burn? Probably.

cson · 18-12-2007 06:00PM

And he'll proabably play well. He's been excellent in any game he's played this season. He just happens to be unlucky that Flamini is having a superb season.

Royale with Cheese · 19-12-2007 01:10AM

Hmmm, Eduardo has 9 appearances in the league and 0 goals. 8 in Europe/League cup and 7 goals. Looked very comfortable in front of goal tonight.

leninbenjamin · 19-12-2007 01:50AM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Hmmm, Eduardo has 9 appearances in the league and 0 goals. 8 in Europe/League cup and 7 goals. Looked very comfortable in front of goal tonight.

Aye. he strikes me as one of those all or nothing players. looks ****e for 70 or 80 minutes then comes up with a bit of magic to seal the deal. that analysis could be very wrong, but either way i want to see more of him. Just with RVP, Ade and Bendtner will we ever see him get a nice long run?

cson · 19-12-2007 02:31AM

Hopefully Eduardo will overcome the no. 9 curse

Diaby impressed me very much tonight, turned in an excellent performance.

gosplan · 19-12-2007 09:50AM

Eduardo's an amazing finisher.

In an continental team, he'd be amazing just playing off the shoulder touching the ball only a few times but coming up with the goods when in front of goal.

To be successful in the Arsenal first team he needs to add a bit more to his game - which I have no doubt he will.

Galvasean · 19-12-2007 12:08PM

I have to say I'm so impressed with our young guns. Losing a two goal lead (especially considering the first one was highly dubious) and getting a man (or is that boy?) sent off and still finding the resources to nab a win, which only the most hardened Spud could deny they deserved, was some achievement.
They showed not only great skill and guile, but also tremendous character. All with an average squad age of 19! :eek:
I was very impressed with Randall. Wallcott better watch out!

Arsenal B for the cup!

gosplan · 19-12-2007 01:11PM

Also note that Walcott was left out. With the injury to Eboue, he's a definite starter for Saturday and the forseeable future if he plays well.

Theo Walcott - THY TIME HAS COME!!!

Seriously, we paid a fair bit for him and he's done well, progressed and shown us some good stuff. Now it's time for him to contribute to the first team and help get us some very important results.

I've always been on the fence about Walcott, assuming that much of his press was hype due to his English origins. The next few weeks will tell.

yahoo_moe · 19-12-2007 01:54PM

PHB wrote: »

Whats in that for Diarra though?

I can fully see Diarra's frustration - but I think a wee bit of patience in terms of waiting for Flamini to lose form/get injured and he could see himself regularly starting in a really top side... I love how Flamini's performing but I can't help but think that it's possible he's slightly overachieving now

As for Walcott, he can convert any doubters with a good display against Spurs - great chance for him

OPENROAD · 19-12-2007 07:22PM

Galvasean wrote: »

I have to say I'm so impressed with our young guns. Losing a two goal lead (especially considering the first one was highly dubious) and getting a man (or is that boy?) sent off and still finding the resources to nab a win, which only the most hardened Spud could deny they deserved, was some achievement.
They showed not only great skill and guile, but also tremendous character. All with an average squad age of 19! :eek:
I was very impressed with Randall. Wallcott better watch out!

Have to agree the future really is bright, bet the board are happy, can't see Wenger having to spend much money in Jan and nxt summer.

Pepe LeFrits · 19-12-2007 09:15PM

gosplan wrote: »

Also note that Walcott was left out. With the injury to Eboue, he's a definite starter for Saturday and the forseeable future if he plays well.

Theo Walcott - THY TIME HAS COME!!!

Seriously, we paid a fair bit for him and he's done well, progressed and shown us some good stuff. Now it's time for him to contribute to the first team and help get us some very important results.

I've always been on the fence about Walcott, assuming that much of his press was hype due to his English origins. The next few weeks will tell.

Walcott was sick.

OPENROAD · 19-12-2007 09:21PM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Walcott was sick.

yup, his mum phoned up Arsene on Tuesday morning to tell him he had an upset stomach.

AnCapaillMor · 19-12-2007 10:28PM

OPENROAD wrote: »

yup, his mum phoned up Arsene on Tuesday morning to tell him he had an upset stomach.

Nope i heard he told Wenger that the dog ate his tactics homework.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_2992388,00.html

Terry said Eboues deserved a red, is everyone suffering amnesia and forgotten his tackle on fabs.

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