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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,916 ✭✭✭amacca


    Just on the social media thing and take this with a grain of salt but it or at least a combination of it and the tech its delivered on is having other effects…. I overheard a podcast OH was listening to last night (I haven't checked veracity) but the guest clearly linked the availability of smartphones to a decline in brithrates…need a replacement rate of 2.1 to keep a population stable apparently….the thing is there a correlation in decline in birth rates historically due to industrialisation, due to women entering workforce (having their own earnings/control etc) so It was largely true that birth rates tended to be higher in poorer countries less developed etc….however their data also appeared to show that less developed and even 3rd world countries you can now see a correlation between decline in birthrates tracing back to the time when smartphones became available….thought it was an interesting nugget…. all sorts of conjecture (which seemed reasonable enough to me) followed about it removing opportunities for interaction in the real world, unrealistic standards, comparison etc…if true its had and having more profound effects than I was aware of



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,214 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I don't think that that will be the trigger point. The trigger point will be when the establishment overplays its hand. It will at some point because the game is up. America is built on perpetual population increase. Europeans/white people have less reason than ever to move over so growth can only come from non-white majority countries for the most part.

    To be fair to the American system, it did lead to FDR and his New Deal after the Wall Street Crash and the Great Depression. The problem is that collective memories are short and the corporate establishment started funding hacks like Milton Friedman to spread the new free market gospel.

    They won't see Trump for what he is because they can't. Social media gives them echo chambers and they've no interest in learning or challenging themselves.

    Sadly, the only way I see significant change happening is with some kind of disaster. I don't want to think about what that might be but I'm getting surer and surer about that.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,214 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    That's genuinely quite fascinating. Would you mind telling me if you find out what the podcast is/was?

    It makes sense on a superficial level at least. We used to need each other much more than we do now. When I first visited London, I used a journey planner to get to my aunt's house. A few years earlier, I'd have to get her to email me directions. Before that, a phone call and a paper and pen.

    Everything's on apps now so there's less interaction. That said, I was in my home county of Donegal last Christmas. I fancied a cup of Lyons from a petrol station. I asked the guy how it works. Do you pay and use the machine or what? He couldn't have been less helpful. The apps definitely have upsides.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,641 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I suspect it's going to be a security nightmare. Remember the shooter outside the Whitehouse recently, now imagine the chaos with the circus on the lawn.

    He'll use it to say the Epstein Ballroom also needs a colosseum for nation security.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,843 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    As long as he doesn't only rely on "Paxton Bad". That has been proven not to be a winning strategy.

    The one note of caution…. Polling between Paxton and Cornyn showed a very close race until only the last few days.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/26/cornyn-paxton-texas-senate-gop-fears-00935464

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    The entire history of the post WW2 era can be framed as the Epstein class doing everything they can to destroy the middle class and row back every right workers won in the preceding decades. Tie that to racism that's at the core of American society, and it's no surprise at the actions being taken. The Union won the Civil War and lost the peace, and we're paying the price still.

    Sherman should've kept on burning.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,214 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They can't be far from eating themselves at this point. We have a fertility crisis across the developed world for a reason and their "solutions" just seem to be more restrictions on rights.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,876 ✭✭✭amandstu


    asked the guy how it works. Do you pay and use the machine or what? He couldn't have been less helpful. The apps definitely have upsides. "

    Not really.Those interactions are few and far between.If they do occur they are an interesting view into someone who has a problem of some kind.

    I have a friend who, when she had a problem would seek out friendly faces in the street and engage them in conversation.

    Amazingly, this was/is always successful and there has never been a rebuff of any kind over the years.(Irish,English, foreign tourists ...anyone)

    In fact they would be just as much the beneficiary of the encounter. Not sure if that is a woman thing(I stay well clear)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,214 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Yes really, particularly if you're in a rural area. I've encountered plenty of rude people and the apps eliminate a lot of the tedium of having to interact with them.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Economics101


    OK, a big win for Paxton by 25 points aginst Cornyn. However only approximately 1.4 million voted. The total Texas population is 32million, and the electorate (US citizens over 18) is probably 20 million or more. One source gives about 6.5million registered Republicans, so the Primany turnout is 20 to 25%. Paxton therefore got very roughly 16% of all registered Republicans. I can't see very many Dems or Independents voting for him, so hopefuly he's toast.

    Media comments on Primaries, don't focus enough on turnout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    lincoln project latest adhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss7XKc0xsFQ

    lincoln project latest adhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss7XKc0xsFQ

    This will drive him batshit crazy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    That's why they are pushing automation so hard. They are intrinsically anti-human accelerationists. Let the peasants tear themselves apart in the ashes of the world, while they live in comfort provided by machines and their select groups of serfs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,214 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Sure but that won't keep the money flowing. Tech companies still require a consumer base. I can't see robotics advancing far enough to farm land, empty bins or any other tasks like that any time soon.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭dePeatrick




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    On the face of the result, it seems Trump can still rouse support for candidates. Was it the money for Paxton's campaign or actual votes? Hopefully the result will energise the Dem supporters to come out in their thousands to vote for their candidate and not sit on their votes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,521 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    The Gaza Board of Peace, which Trump called "One of the most consequential international organizations ever created", has not received a single cent of funding in its official account with the world bank, but as usual in trump world:

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    The guy whose family is legally barred from ever operating a charity again in a lot of places due to past thievery is literally robbing the Palestinians of aid in broad daylight and nobody gives a sh1t or can do a thing about it.

    Trump’s Official 'Board of Peace' Fund Is Completely Empty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    End stage capitalism is UBI for the serfs, to prop up the market. Corporations are swallowing up rights to basic resources, to where folks are going to be dependent on them for water, power, food. The Yarvinists would have people made to work to live in their feudal states.

    I could see the concept of money existing in two spheres. Basic income for workers, living subsistence lifestyles, and "The Economy" existing for the wealthy and corporations, that's based on an even more separate reality than today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Stanley 1




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,214 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Works for me:

    Had Enough?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,916 ✭✭✭amacca


    I clicked in, yes that was it, I was half listening to it in the background, I suppose the fact its McWilliams might colour peoples opinions too (I quite like him and used to find him entertaining at times)...but again many podcasts etc depend on possibly sensationalising or overegging marginal findings so as with everything a grain of salt until you see the actual data...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,214 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I don't see that panning out for them. It's too many people just sitting, doing nothing knowing full well that their parents and grandparents had full time jobs and disposable income.

    Really reminds me of the French Revolution. There were numerous causes but the trigger was the soaring prices of bread and wine.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,538 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Just a heads-up, I could only see the YT link if I quoted your post - think you were missing a space between your text and the link.

    Transcript of "Had Enough"

    • The average American spent $4,200 more last year just keeping up with inflation.
      What did Donald Trump do? He made it worse, much worse.

    • Donald Trump's cabinet has a combined net worth of over $700 billion. His own family is making billions.
    • They don't buy gas like us. They don't buy groceries. They don't check airline prices. They have their own planes.

    • Donald Trump's private war is killing us. He doesn't care. Nobody around him cares. They live in a different world.
    • Must be nice.
    • They think we're stupid and we'll keep voting to keep them in power.
      What do you think had enough?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,285 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Trump folding like a cheap single ply tissue

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,214 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So, another TACO if that is to be believed. Heck of a price to pay for a distraction from the Trump-Epstein files.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    You'd think so, but given how successfully people have been anesthesised to current affairs, I don't know if it will ever get to that point. We have a President credibly accused of raping and murdering children, revelations of a global cabal of ultra wealthy paedophiles manipulating international affairs, and an active genocide being televised. I don't think anything is going to move the needle until climate change really bites home. When crops start to fail, and cities are getting hammered by abnormal weather conditions, maybe things will happen. Be far too late by then though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,214 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Well, I could be wrong but I think people will be more focused when their lives degenerate to waiting for a weekly subsistence check. Currently, we're busy with jobs and some have children and caring duties on top of that.

    A starving consumer base isn't exactly a recipe for growth either. This feels like how a society dies, honestly.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,642 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Population worldwide continues to grow. Concerns about birth rates are corporatist nonsense. CFTrump's lackeys are being particularly bizarre about this, especially those frauds Dr. Oz and Peter "Ron Vara really exists and loves my stuff" Navarro. Something out of them lately decrying fewer teenage pregnancies - insane.

    There's no shortage of people, nor any signs this is going to change anytime soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    That's the thing though, the powerful want the collapse. To them, it's opportunity. Vulture capitalism to the extreme.

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/esg/corporations-have-the-right-to-vote-in-delaware-town-judge-says

    In today's latest entry in our living dystopian novel prologue.



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