Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Rumours abound that it's Trump's ill health that has caused the cancellation.

Elsewhere, I read online that they gave him a colonoscopy and found half of Congress....

Interesting that there was a meeting scheduled for Camp David. I can't recall the last time TACO man went there.

He has used Camp David only once since his 2nd term started.

Least surprising headline you'll read all year

Unreal....zero class....negative class.

He says he takes an asprin daily dose of 300mg up, average dose even with HD is 75 -80 mg he aces BS on everything he's done in his am sure he's got away with the odd murder shame on Americans.

Watch a doc about ww2 b4 pearl harbour MAGA was around then so its aways been but now it has the power

Democracy always gives people the government they deserve. Always.

We can point easily to things like gerrymandering, the disproportionate power given to red states or the anti-democratic abomination that is the electoral college but they voted him in properly this time. It was a clear majority.

It doesn't matter that he lies as easily as he breathes. It doesn't matter that he was best pals with the world's most famous child sex trafficker or that he boasted about sexually assaulting women or that he used to walk into the dressing rooms of the Miss Teen USA pageant. They don't care. They voted for this.

If the voters don't care then they deserve what they get. Ten years ago in the UK, we had a referendum about the country's membership of the EU. People voted and then spent the following days googling things like "What is the EU?", "What does the EU do?" and "How does the EU work?".

The US is a democracy, albeit terribly, terribly flawed. The problem is that there's a significant minority that cares more about getting the result it wants than about democratic and republican principles.

Not to mention all the uppers and speed.

One could say he is completely taking the piss now

I don't know. I recently read a book on this. The New Deal status quo seemed quite stable until you get to the radical 1960's and the backlash in the 1970's which leads to the election of one Ronald Regan. Since then, we've seen union representation plummet, house prices skyrocket in the big cities, the rise of toxic billionaires, vast inequality and significantly reduced opportunities.

We're actively breeding a useless class and it's going to end in disaster.

I fully agree that social media is a cancer. I think future generations will look at it the same way we look at the link between smoking and cancer. We're eroding our societies so half a dozen poisonous man-children can get even richer than they already are.

And yes, it should not be this easy to convince vast swathes of people in the information age to go to war against themselves but here we are.

It'll come (if it comes) from the vast swathes of people who will just have no purpose or reason to live once the AI revolution progresses, MAGA or non-MAGA. Of course, there is the corollary that they were fine with the racism, Naziism & Epstein stuff until that point.

They'll eat out of Trump's hand for now but a hungry dog is only so loyal.

So basically it's a scene from Idiocracy?

I suppose I think the wheels are going to really fall of the wagon when it becomes clear to a large enough group of people they voted for a clown show that's going to seriously materially disadvantage them but not before a series of additional bad decisions are made

I don't see any enlightenment around the corner when society or a large enough cohort decides its time to get down to brass tacks and make sensible decisions for the good of the country as a whole and make society fairer/more equitable in terms of wealth distribution…I think you need a disaster to occur to overcome the fragmentation….people will just keep voting out anyone half way sensible or even boring/ineffectual in favour of twits that promise whatever nonsense I keep thinking they must know in their heart of hearts wont be "delivered"…..

I also think many systems and definitely the US system absolutely incentivise the wrong kind of behaviour in elected representatives…..its in their best interest to get votes any way they can, feather their own nests and do favours - a level of that is always going to happen but there are no solid metrics or rewards for attempting to put a country on a relatively firm financial footing (in fact you'll probably not get re elected), not engage in divisive politics etc etc

Maybe I'm just a chicken licken who thinks the sky is always falling in and things were ever thus but I cant help thinking we are in increasingly uncertain waters compared to say the 80s, 90s, early 2000s…….

Look at the nonsense thats been happening in the UK since Brexit…..there appears to be a new PM every time you turn around…eventually that has to lead to problems…that problem could be Nigel Farage…..he aint going to solve anything….if anything you will just be handing another clown a can of petrol

So I suppose I think its going to come when a large enough cohort forms with scores they feel they have to settle and that feel they have fcuk all to lose