Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Credit where its due tho Donny Snr. does at least know who Donny Jnr. is. So theres a few memory cells ratling around his brain.

NASA-ESA scientific cooperation is also being torched by the MAGA admin. They are playing silly games with NASAs funding, and a lot of what they want to cancel seems to be the US aspects of various joint missions that are years if not decades in the making. (From late last year…)

https://www.space.com/space-exploration/european-space-agency-reveals-3-key-european-space-missions-threatened-by-trumps-nasa-budget-cuts

As have said before the US is going to find it much more difficult to persuade others to trust them and partner on many things post Trump and his clowns. It will find itself diminished, and weaker than it otherwise would have been, but I expect everyone else will be blamed for that sorry situation other than themselves!

Meanwhile, Comey for indicted for seashells....

It has been around for some time. The insult was levelled at Romney back in the day.

I would disagree with the last bit of your post. This is the Republican party's true form. Decent people left a decade ago. All that's left is the Trump majority. GOP politicians and presidents would at least pretend to care about all Americans as they peddled their shock doctrine, gerrymandering, tax cuts, corporatism, religious fundamentalism and racism.

All Trump did was show them that the façade was unnecessary.

You left out shitkickers, and Methodists😉

I wonder, now that the Media and Social Media is largely concentrated in the hands of few, predominantly Republicans, is that jaded appearance of the Democrats and their message more to do with the algorithms and portrayals?

I hear this quoted lots of times. The US is the wealthiest economy the world has ever known. Its annual growth rates tend to be much better than almost any other country.

So while deals like NAFTA could have potentially been better in some aspects for the US, overall, the US continues to see the best returns across the globe and globalisation has been incredibly beneficial to them.

And whilst in the short term, having car plants move to Mexico seems bad, US manufacturing is never going to compete with poorer countries for the same reason Ireland is never going to compete with China.

Where the US has failed the vast majority of its people is that instead of the money made from the larger services etc sold across the globe to help maintain a semblance of balance between rich and poor, the rich have made out like bandits while the poorer have paid the price.

That isn't a problem with NAFTA, that is a problem with giving those at the very top continued tax breaks and corporate welfare while those who lost their jobs because of moving production overseas have been left with nothing.

There is more wealth in the US now than there was prior to NAFTA, so NAFTA isn't the problem. The only solution, if the rich are not prepared to pay more taxes, is to reduce all other costs such that a worker in the US can live off the wages that a worker in Mexico can survive. Not only would that require a collapse in the property market, including rent, but it would also have a major knock-on effect across all consumer goods as people won't be able to afford the prices being charged.