Israel/Palestine Thread

no way would a very small number of activists and supporters need the presence of 20-30 police.

20-30 police clearly armed with riot batons (and not afraid to use them).

I recall Heathrow a fair few years ago (international flight). In the 3 or 4 hours I was there, I saw two groups of armed police (3 in each group). That was it.

There's something not adding up about this event for sure.

As @StarryPlough01 mentioned previously, seems those particular police were trained by Israel/mossad. That could be the key.

You should take a look in the mirror.

Based on the selective quotes/videos from that paragon of virtue known as twitter and other uncorroborated/dubious sources, it's all pure Hasbara.

It has been a common theme for the last 2.5 years and reported on extensively.

"look at this video of you murdering these journalists".
"Fake news. But here's video of an horrific crime perpetrated in broad daylight - a bloke walking out of an airport two minutes ago, now mysteriously on a stretcher…"

Or even better - "They beheaded 40 babies. Put one in an oven. Cut a fetus out a woman". Proven lies by Zaka who used the lies to coin in on donations to the tune of millions.

It's remarkable how easily the Hasbara is swallowed though - zero independent thinking or looking at alternative reputable and corroborated sources. And the standard "virtue signalling" accusations are all dead giveaways.

These are tactics and strategies developed and honed for decades.

But everyone is tuned into them now and can see them a mile off.

it is good for them to explain the rationale behind their beliefs. By demonstrating how they reached a certain conclusion, it can allow observers to decide whether or not their argument is reasonable.

I'd say most here made that judgement call a good few pages back.

And you're spot on - no point in arguing with an entrenched belief. But pointing out the chasms of truth in their discourse helps those who read the posts make an informed decision. Again, most readers would have twigged that many pages ago.

What I find disgusting is the absolute contempt for medical care workers and their well-known procedures plus the gleeful joy that particular poster expressed about people being violently assaulted with batons.

You've not wasted your time - you're clearly well versed in medical procedures. You've shone a light on mis/disinformation

I think that the significant number of replies to your posts about standard procedures for medical staff have been very clear. That is what you are seeing in your videos published on X - medical staff doing their jobs (and the press of course).

All I can assume then is you are continuing the argument because it blows a dirty great big hole in the narrative you are clearly trying to peddle.

I'd also add, in agreement with @BettyS, that you're demeaning the medical profession too. They have a hard job to do and deserve respect, not to have slurs and digs hurled at them. I hope I never need their services but if I do, I'd be glad they follow their procedures to the letter.

For all those who believe Israel is a paragon of virtue when it comes to equal rights between the sexes, have a read of this.

And it's somewhat odd that the IDF spokesman lied about it (though absolutely not surprising of course).

If I was a soldier, I'd be a bit miffed that I wasn't being protected because of misogynistic colleagues.

Haaretz strapline

Soldiers and military sources told Haaretz that the IDF has avoided deploying a key combat support system at a southern Lebanon outpost staffed by ultra-Orthodox soldiers because the unit operating the system includes female troops.

In its official response, an IDF spokesperson said the ultra-Orthodox soldiers' presence did not prevent the systems' deployment, adding that it was deployed elsewhere due to operational considerations.

However, soldiers who spoke to Haaretz said senior officers had told them that the decision was made to avoid the presence of women at the post, as ultra-Orthodox religious beliefs don't permit close contact with the opposite sex. The system, which both combat soldiers and commanders describe as essential, cannot run without the women, who make up a large percentage of the unit.

A source in the unit responsible for the system confirmed the details, saying: "The system is vital for supporting combat operations, yet in the end it is not operating where it is needed."