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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,963 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    So are they withdrawing 4000 and sending 5000 a net gain of just 1000 or are they keeping the 4000 and sending an additional 5000?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,920 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump won't be attending his own son's wedding, and posters here tried to say Biden was the one who was a sh1t father...

    Post edited by everlast75 on

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,540 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Have you no empathy? Trump is an old man, all must not be well*, he must be gutted to be unable to attend… I mean, the grifting opportunities could be Godfather-esque.

    *It's also Memorial Day weekend so that gives him more time with the markets off to carry out war crimes, murder schoolchildren in Iran or maybe it's Cuba this time.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,557 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The U.S newspapers headlines are making much of Senate GOP members walking away from voting on Trumps ICE funding frustrated over his payout scheme for his Capitol Hill peaceful protest pals, seemingly letting his ACTING AG get the message during their questioning him about the settlement payout plan. Those papers mentioned that House GOP members also voiced their negative views on Trumps payout scheme.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,557 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The troops may be part of the large international NATO linked military exercices taking place in Poland. Rather inconvenient that Trump chose not to be aware of his troop involvement in Europe. I wont blame that on Pete and the generals not letting him know the score in case he came up with a War Games plan of his own.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,557 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It seems backroom pressure from California's Silicon Valley helped persuade Trump from putting his expected EO for safety vetting of AI into operation on the basis that it could INHIBIT development of the pivotal twchnology. Nothing like telling the president what he would do would INHIBIT the future of the U.S, particularly where invesrment is concerned to make him back off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭Field east


    if it was to be dashed on looks alone I would be going for the photo on the right EVERay TIME!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,406 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Cool. You picked the right army to join!

    An amazing achievement by the Irish lads, particularly so having never seen a Bradley. You must be proud of them I'm sure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,406 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    the Qanon shaman is not applying for trumps Jan 6th payouts. As he’s currently suing Trump for 30 trillion dollars. Mad country.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭Field east


    A mixture of Flood the Zone and TACO in operation!!!!!



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,085 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    …but will he get a round of golf in instead?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,963 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    His lawsuit was dismissed apparently

    https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2026/05/20/qanon-shaman-trump-slush-fund/

    In a rambling phone conversation with
    Cronkite News, he repeatedly cited Trump’s connections to Jeffrey
    Epstein, a wealthy financier and convicted sex offender who died in jail
    in 2019 while awaiting federal trial for trafficking young women and
    girls for sex. 

    He reiterated his anger with Trump for resisting release of the Epstein files.

    And he criticized Trump for attacking Iran and supporting Israel, among other things.  

    Angeli-Chansley sued Trump for $40 trillion in September 2025, asserting he is the true leader of the free world
    and vowing to use the sum to wipe out the national debt. The lawsuit was
    dismissed. He later filed a lawsuit against the CIA, FBI, World Bank
    and others in Maricopa County.

    He urged fellow Jan. 6ers to “reject that … money.” 

    If courts allow the fund to operate, Angeli-Chansley said, it would mean that Trump “can do whatever it is that he wants.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,063 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I doubt any MAGA understand the concept of "rejecting money", it's all "god's will" after all and if it's illicit it's the fault of who forced you to take the money and if you lose it on a grift, it's because you didn't believe enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,518 ✭✭✭trashcan


    In todays episode of "Did he really just say that ?" 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,963 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c232z4yk437o

    Trump pausing the sale to Taiwan. You'd like to think the Navy Chief is telling the truth but you wouldn't be surprised if China offered Trump something to betray Taiwan. The world could do without this Taiwan invasion kicking off in the next few years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,638 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    No, in a rather garbled way he said he had known the fiancee for a long time. Whether this was biblical was not clear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,518 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Yeah just watched the video now. His actual words were "he's got a very….person that I've known a long time." Weird answer all around though. He said "its going to be a very private affair" Usually this would involve parents, no? He also said, if I go, I'll get killed, If I don't go I'll get killed, by the fake news media of course." What ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,920 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    In another example of how decent and successful people trigger him...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,894 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    There'll, literally, be millions around the world saying roughly the same thing about Trump eventually.

    Thank goodness he's finally gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Rather comical by Trump as she was only 13 at the time….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Trump has normalised lying within the GOP, they take their cue from the boss. J6 was all staged to make Trump look bad

    https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/trump-ally-claims-capitol-riot-was-staged-and-made-up/news-story/62a49d2a3cca8ff0eef312588b6aef5a

    Mr Norman spoke briefly to reporters, a short time ago, on the steps
    of the building from which members of Congress were evacuated that day,
    and called the whole thing fake.

    “Look, January 6th was an issue that was made up in the first place,” he said.

    “Made up, sir?” a reporter said.

    “That was a staged thing from day one,” said Mr Norman.

    “The riot was staged?” asked the reporter.

    “When
    you had police officers letting people in the building. When you had
    people that’s not being prosecuted. Ray – I forget his name. There’s no
    excuse for that,” said the Congressman.

    Your colleagues though, your Republican colleagues, ran for their
    life and barricaded themselves in the chamber. You think they were
    acting?” asked the reporter.

    “No, there was a riot. But it was a self-made riot by members who hate Trump. It was made up, in my opinion,” said Mr Norman.

    This is a view Mr Trump himself has actually expressed on occasion: that his
    political enemies fomented the riot themselves to make him look bad.
    But he still thinks most of the participants did nothing wrong; hence
    his move to pardon them, even the people convicted of assaulting police,
    as soon as he regained the presidency in January of last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    You'd wear that like a badge of honour - you know you're doing something right to get a reaction like that!



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Absolutely , the last thing any decent human being would want is praise from Donald Trump..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,216 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I remember working in a clinical trials facility in Northern England when Margaret Thatcher died. There was lively debate on the radio about how inappropriate it was to have parties. That's going to be absolutely nothing compared to what will happen when this amalgam of all human flaws, vices and malevolence finally expires.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,870 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I'm intrigued to see how they're going to handle his grave site and public urination. Really really am.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,216 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,881 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Expect a National Trump Day before he's gone



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,843 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I went through the 200 pages so you don't have to. Some highlights (which is still a long post, granted, but I'm surprised the report hasn't generated any discussion here at all). Again, the DNC never finished the report, so the yellow markings and lines are editor notes in the original. Split boxes are because of page breaks in the PDF.

    After an overview of the trends of the last 15 years showing a consistent drop in support from the Obama high of 2008.

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    i.e. it's not necessarily the policies that are the problem, it's the people running the show: Partially the candidates, but also partially the way the DNC works. The report spends more time on the 'processes' and analytics than the candidates and policies themselves.

    On the matter of future trends (And that map I posted earlier).

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    This matches what has been mentioned before. For example, the swarm of people leaving California and moving to Texas were viewed as a demographic shift in favour of Democrats: Californians vote Democrat, so they will vote Democrat in the new state… Yet the state hasn't shifted that way at all. Turns out that the folks leaving were those not enamoured by California and its policies in the first place, which is why they left.

    On the matter of where Democrats outperformed the norm (and definitely outperformed Harris)

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    Takeaways from comparing State and National elections (i.e. the short version of the previous 20 pages). I think there's a typo where it says "Stein would never break through", should be "Robinson would never break through".

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    Now, #2 does nothing to those who will say "but mysoginy" as Stein is male. However, note split voting trends further down. I have harped on #3 before. If the Democrats want to win in 2028, if they nominate a coastal city liberal (eg Newsom), they are going to be handing the Republicans a headstart. It may be surmountable (and I would argue Republicans are doing a great job of sabotaging themselves to help them), but a headstart none-the-less. #4 and #6 I have also done to death on Boards. With regards #5, the report indicates that the Harris campaign assumed that new voters would overwhelmingly vote Democrat and thus focused on folks they felt were more worth the effort. Of course, that's not what happened.

    Conclusions as a result: (I believe GOTV is "Get out the vote")

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    The couple of pages on the split ticket voters is informative. These are the true swing voters, not the type who swing from party to party between the elections, but who swing from party to party within the one election. By my count, Harris lost 31 EC votes in states in which the voters were happy to vote for a Democrat woman as their Senator. 42 if you count all the lost split President/Senate states. One EC vote shy of victory (I haven't looked into other statewide offices such as Gov/Lt Gov or AG).

    On the hispanic community (Again note that Latinos shifted Democrat in NC)

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    On the matter of spending. Money obviously isn't the bottom line.

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    It notes that both Republicans and Democrats spend the majority in old-fashioned ways.

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    Later on it also points out that Democrats utterly failed to understand alternate communications mechanisms. Digital adverts tended to be broadcast adverts recut and put on social media. Text messages were never conversations or statements of policy, but pretty much exclusively requests for funding. (Which, given the dollar spends above, seems to have worked, to be fair, although given the result of the dollar spends, may have been a wasted effort: Votes win elections, not dollars, the report in an entire chapter on fundraising observes that raising more money than Republicans cannot be an end unto itself.).

    On the matter of timing campaigns.

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    The report returns to this later, and observes that another difference is that Republicans rely more on leveraging locals while Democrats don't.

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    It also observes later that the Party is not taking enough effort to do face-to-face interactions by advocates and needs to reframe away from telephone calls and the like.

    A rather important one-liner.

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    On the the matter of attack adverts and particularly the "Harris is for they/them" advert. It points out that they are more effective than Democrats are comfortable with, and Democrats should do more of them. Which is one of those things I'm not looking forward to, most of my election material I get is attack adverts anyway. And my kid is getting negative election campaign adverts when he's trying to watch Mark Rober on Youtube.

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    Note the bit about the framing: Though the context was transgenderism, the argument was "This is how she will spend your tax dollars."

    Then there is an utterly massive section on campaign spending processes and priorities, which I don't pretend to undestrand (or care much about).



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